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DonTom

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2017 Zero SR FW update problem
« on: May 02, 2024, 09:41:07 PM »

2017 Zero SR with power tank.


I used the Zero App, it sees the bike fine until I go to FW updates, There, it does NOT read to old FW version and it will not update a new one, the circle thingy just keeps on spinning for an hour as if it were trying to work, but never stops spinning.


So I cannot tell what FW the bike has and if it needs an update or not,


Are others having this problem?


-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: 2017 Zero SR FW update problem
« Reply #1 on: Today at 03:10:35 AM »

I thought Zero had ended FW updates for their "legacy" models.  ???  When I checked my Zero app last week it wasn't showing any available new FW updates for my 2018S with PT. I guess I will try now and see if anything comes up.  I just spent a couple of minutes watching the Firmware Update yellow spinning checker spin without any results. So I gave up watching it spin and shut down the app. My guess is that Zero has done all of the updates on the 2014-2019 models that they are going to do and have moved on to the latest generation of bikes.
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Re: 2017 Zero SR FW update problem
« Reply #2 on: Today at 09:59:50 AM »

Are you using the Zero Next Gen app? The old Zero Motorcycles app cannot pull the firmware data from their servers. You need to use the Next Gen app.

I recently tried to check my firmware with the old app for my '18 FXS, and it was stuck spinning looking for firmware. Then I installed the new app and it worked. The sad part is my firmware version requires a dealer to install it.
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Re: 2017 Zero SR FW update problem
« Reply #3 on: Today at 01:18:10 PM »

I thought Zero had ended FW updates for their "legacy" models.  ???  When I checked my Zero app last week it wasn't showing any available new FW updates for my 2018S with PT. I guess I will try now and see if anything comes up.  I just spent a couple of minutes watching the Firmware Update yellow spinning checker spin without any results. So I gave up watching it spin and shut down the app. My guess is that Zero has done all of the updates on the 2014-2019 models that they are going to do and have moved on to the latest generation of bikes.
Thanks, I never heard about that. I had my Smatphone and bike on for about an hour and it just kept spinning.  When was the last update? I am wondering if I have it or not, is there a way to tell?  My Smartphone will not even read the old FW. But it does see the rest of the bike just fine.


The bike runs fine, so it's no big deal.  But I did recently notice it will not charge to 100%, mid 90's SOC or so. Regardless of how I try to charge it, so it isn't the OBC causing it. I will later check the battery voltage at the max charge and see if that gives me any hint.


The bike has not been getting a lot of use lately as I have 11 bikes to ride. It says my cell balance is 10 MV. I forgot what a typical normal reading should be.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
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Re: 2017 Zero SR FW update problem
« Reply #4 on: Today at 07:40:33 PM »

I am using the old Zero app, too. My bike is running great and still charges to 100% and the app works fine for checking the health of the battery and for setting up the user performance system, so I don't think I will mess with anything.  When my 2014S failed to charge to 100% and kept getting worse as time wore on, the solution to the problem was to replace the OBC. After doing that, everything went back to normal.
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Re: 2017 Zero SR FW update problem
« Reply #5 on: Today at 08:43:00 PM »

I am using the old Zero app, too. My bike is running great and still charges to 100% and the app works fine for checking the health of the battery and for setting up the user performance system, so I don't think I will mess with anything.  When my 2014S failed to charge to 100% and kept getting worse as time wore on, the solution to the problem was to replace the OBC. After doing that, everything went back to normal.
Yeah, I know. But I can charge my bike without even using the OBC and have the same issue--unlike before.


I have not yet really looked into it much. But I thought I would start by making sure I had the latest updates, but then . . .


-Don-  Auburn, CA
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1984 Yamaha Venture
2002 Suzuki DR200SE
2013 Triumph Trophy SE
2016 Kawasaki Versys 650 LT
2017 Blk/Gold HD Road Glide Ultra
2017 Org Zero DS ZF 6.5/(now is 7.2)
2017 Red Zero SR ZF13 w/ Pwr Tank
2020 Energica EVA SS9
2023 Energica Experia LE
2023 Zero DSR/X

DonTom

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Re: 2017 Zero SR FW update problem
« Reply #6 on: Today at 08:45:43 PM »

Are you using the Zero Next Gen app? The old Zero Motorcycles app cannot pull the firmware data from their servers. You need to use the Next Gen app.

I recently tried to check my firmware with the old app for my '18 FXS, and it was stuck spinning looking for firmware. Then I installed the new app and it worked. The sad part is my firmware version requires a dealer to install it.
No, but thanks, I didn't even know there was another version. I will soon download it and try again and see what happens.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
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1971 BMW R75/5
1984 Yamaha Venture
2002 Suzuki DR200SE
2013 Triumph Trophy SE
2016 Kawasaki Versys 650 LT
2017 Blk/Gold HD Road Glide Ultra
2017 Org Zero DS ZF 6.5/(now is 7.2)
2017 Red Zero SR ZF13 w/ Pwr Tank
2020 Energica EVA SS9
2023 Energica Experia LE
2023 Zero DSR/X
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