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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: Tudor on November 05, 2013, 06:31:25 PM
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So, rumors where true!
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-s/sr.php (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-s/sr.php)
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Size 6 controller.
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Dammit, I want one! >:(
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Brammo 66 units of torque
Zero SR 106 units of torque.
Yikes!
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Hopfully Brammo will bring out something just as nice in reply... :)
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I need that bike! Does anyone know a price? I'm on my phone so hard to navigate the site.
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I need that bike! Does anyone know a price? I'm on my phone so hard to navigate the site.
$16,995.00 and $19,490.00
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On these new 2014 the 75-7 motor have no cooling added , it just have new high temp magnets.
The size 6 and 3.3sec would be really impressive !! wow!
Doc
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Brammo 66 units of torque
Zero SR 106 units of torque.
Yikes!
Indeed! I do not need any more torque for what I do with my Zero. That is a racing spec.
Notably, they advertise the rear tire as having a width of 140 for a wider contact patch. I'll bet that's linked to the torque, otherwise I'd feel skittish on that!
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You can never have too much torque Brian!
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That is too much torque for me. That bike makes as much torque as a Honda Goldwing and it is carrying a whole lot less weight. I wonder if the belt drive is up to the task of transmitting that amount of torque? I'll bet the 140 size tire will be easy to smoke - especially if it is still a Road Whiner. ::)
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I think this bike is primarily made available to gain street cred in the motorcycle world. Zero knows that nobody really *needs* that much torque on a bike that light. However, having a performance vehicle that badass will get a lot of attention, but most people will probably figure out that the original spec (with the size 4 controller) is plenty of bike for any riding off of race tracks.
With that said, I am totally lusting for an RS! :-)
I rode the one that Harlan made a while back and it is totally amazing!
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The independent racers would love to field the SR against other electric racing competitors. If the Zero SR starts to win races then Zero will win minds.
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RS needs a 180 rear tire to put that much torque down.
I would like to ride one!
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Where's the DSR? :)
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Motor torque is nearly worthless without discussing gearing. Wheel torque is what you care about.
Speaking of gearing, the Zero SR uses a 30 tooth sprocket stock, slightly reducing final drive gearing from 4.7 to 4.4. This probably accounts for the higher top speed as much as any motor changes; curious that the top speed improved little over 2013.
A 98 tooth rear / 25 tooth front sprocket combination would give a 3.9 gearing ratio, which should raise sustained top speed to around 95 mph, peak top speed to around 115 mph, and slightly worsen 0-60 time (for the ZF11.4) to 3.7s.
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I've had my 13s since Feb... I never thought I would even consider buying the 14 when it came out... but 106 lbs of torque and a bigger battery...... Anyone want a 13s with 4k miles ;D
Jose Soriano
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Tempting, but I think my wife would kill me and use it to run over my corpse. ;D
I only *just* got away with buying my 2012 ZF9S... ;)
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Tempting, but I think my wife would kill me and use it to run over my corpse. ;D
I only *just* got away with buying my 2012 ZF9S... ;)
I could think of worse ways to go Justin!
I am certain the SR will do more to break Jersey than any million dollar advertising campaign. We are a small island with a massive motorsport community. I said from the very beginning that my friends won't be interested in my electric bike until I overtake them on it. We did an exhibition run with the 2013 S at the last International Motoring Festival over here on a very small loop circuit and 3 people standing next to me in the crowd said 'ohh...its actually quite fast isnt it.'
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Yeah I suspect I might be going to Jersey on "holiday" in a year or two's time... ;) ;D
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I am surprised no one has mentioned that the 2014 SR also has new suspension, brakes, and gauge cluster as well. I will gladly trade my 2013 for a 2014 for those 3 things alone, the extra torque is just icing to me. ;D
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I've had my 13s since Feb... I never thought I would even consider buying the 14 when it came out... but 106 lbs of torque and a bigger battery...... Anyone want a 13s with 4k miles ;D
Jose Soriano
Maybe - where are you?
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True, I want a DSr Adventure as an allusion to the BMW counterpart !
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That SR is a good bike for Jay Leno to put in his garage...
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So. Cali
Maybe - where are you?
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Tempting, but I think my wife would kill me and use it to run over my corpse. ;D
I only *just* got away with buying my 2012 ZF9S... ;)
So what agreement did you come too?
My wife is reluctantly on board too.
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Agreement?
It went more along the lines of
Me: I'm going to look at an electric motorbike
Wife: Ok.
*I return from the dealership later* *
Me: Great bike, I bought it.
Wife: ...
She did agree however that I can no longer complain about her shoe collection.
*While I was at the dealership she visited a biker friend, who warned her that "going to look at a bike" was normally biker code for "going to buy a bike"...
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Ah, nice.
So, what's stopping you from getting the SR? :)
Just go have a look at it...
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All the gaps are getting filled in from the lower cost FX all the way through a $35K Mission (assuming Mission builds the bike). Very nice. Ebikes are real.
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Ah, nice.
So, what's stopping you from getting the SR? :)
Just go have a look at it...
I think I can get away with that sort of stunt about, say, once every couple of years... ;)
So I'm going to hang on for what 2015 brings us. ;D
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I've pre-ordered an SR and also asked that they put the heated seat and the heated grips on it.
What other factory accessories do you recommend? (it's going to be used for commuting and pleasure around Seattle, WA)
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I've pre-ordered an SR and also asked that they put the heated seat and the heated grips on it.
What other factory accessories do you recommend? (it's going to be used for commuting and pleasure around Seattle, WA)
I'm using the Commuter windscreen and the Givi top and sidecases on my 2013 DS. I like them all (especially in Seattle where rain protection goes a long way). I would say that the top case and the windscreen are the most useful.
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+1 for the windscreen. It makes a huge difference and my cruising speed is a lot lower than you guys, so you should find it even more helpful.
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I've pre-ordered an SR and also asked that they put the heated seat and the heated grips on it.
What other factory accessories do you recommend? (it's going to be used for commuting and pleasure around Seattle, WA)
GNU,
I am sorry to say that the Heated Grips by Keis are not currently compatible with the MY2014 motorcycles. We are working to find a solution.
I am also working to find better ways to communicate compatibility of our accessories now that the list is growing. More of this information will be going out to our dealers next week prior to IMS in Long Beach.
Regards,
aaronzeromoto
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Hi Aaron, why isn't the 2013 heat grips incompatible with 2014 models ? I've put some Oxford heated grips on my 2013 DS but it was not a straight fit. I had to work a little to make them compatible. And so that's not good for d
Laurent
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Hi Aaron,
Thanks for the heads up. The dealership (CycleBarn, Lynwood, WA) said that they needed to install a "splitter" to make it work. Is that what you mean by it's not compatible? Or is there a limitation in 12V power output or similar that's a limitation?
The heated grips and seat are must have options on commuter bikes up here.
//Arvid
PS. Please tell Mike Cunningham to fix his spam filters.
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Hi Guys,
The 2014 motorcycles have a new switch gear mechanism on the right handlebar, which is pinned. Before 2014, the current Heated Grips by Keis could be used by sliding the throttle in so that your own bar ends or the hand guards could be attached to fill the hole that is left on the ends of the grips. Unpinning the new switch gear mechanism on the 2014's is a bad idea. Trimming the current solution (as is possible with some models from Oxford) is under review by Keis, but may not be an acceptable solution either.
So I am looking for an acceptable solution to fit our 111mm throttle right now and spent all of EICMA wandering from booth to booth. Oxford's may work, but I don't have a supplier relationship with them and have seen some reports that their solution turns off automatically on our motorcycles.
Trust me. I am working on it especially as it hits freezing this week in the SF Bay Area. My daily commute would be terrible without them on my 2013 Zero DS.
Regards,
aaronzeromoto
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So I am looking for an acceptable solution to fit our 111mm throttle right now and spent all of EICMA wandering from booth to booth. Oxford's may work, but I don't have a supplier relationship with them and have seen some reports that their solution turns off automatically on our motorcycles.
They definitely do Aaron. It is driving me crazy, I have to turn them off and on again every 3 minutes. Apparently they detect ignition noise so I might build a simple circuit to generate noise but it could interfere with the bike. The grips also don't fit on the bars, I don't know why Zero don't just mount the switchgear further inboard so that standard grips can be used?
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Why not use electric gloves? They warm the inside AND outside of your hands, and they can be taken from bike to bike. Way superior to heated grips.
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Why not use electric gloves? They warm the inside AND outside of your hands, and they can be taken from bike to bike. Way superior to heated grips.
As someone who has a pair of electric gloves and two motorcycles with heated grips, I agree.
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Why not use electric gloves? They warm the inside AND outside of your hands, and they can be taken from bike to bike. Way superior to heated grips.
I do alot of short trips and it never gets VERY cold, so I don't want to be faffing about with either plugging into the bike or charging my gloves at night. I have enough electronic gadgetry at home to find sockets for and it already takes me too long to put all my bike clothing on without having wires to worry about.
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Why not use electric gloves? They warm the inside AND outside of your hands, and they can be taken from bike to bike. Way superior to heated grips.
I do alot of short trips and it never gets VERY cold, so I don't want to be faffing about with either plugging into the bike or charging my gloves at night. I have enough electronic gadgetry at home to find sockets for and it already takes me too long to put all my bike clothing on without having wires to worry about.
My gloves plug in to the bike. It's an extra second or two. My trips are all a minimum of ten minutes (usually much more) and the extra couple of seconds is worth it. Actually, the gloves plug into a jacket liner which plugs into the bike. Still just a couple of extra seconds.
I'm good to about 20' with that setup.
Full disclosure - I haven't used that setup on the Zero.
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They definitely do Aaron. It is driving me crazy, I have to turn them off and on again every 3 minutes. Apparently they detect ignition noise so I might build a simple circuit to generate noise but it could interfere with the bike. The grips also don't fit on the bars, I don't know why Zero don't just mount the switchgear further inboard so that standard grips can be used?
Funny things, it doesn't happen to me. My Oxford are the HOTGRIP Sport but the new 2013 version:http://www.ebay.fr/itm/OXFORD-HOT-GRIPS-HEATED-SPORTS-HOTGRIPS-MOTORBIKE-696-/220561887117
They will cut off only if the battery voltage is lower than a certain value. I've been using them for two months without any unwanted turn off. May be due to the 2013 model, have a look on the ebay link, the control panel is all new.
Laurent, trying not to freeze this winter !!!
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Doh! What an idiot, serves me right for not reading the manual properly.
Its the same controller and it says "the battery saving feature [will turn off]...after 2 minutes without detecting electrical noise. BUT it then goes on to say BSM mode can be disabled by turning the grips on and holding down both buttons for 5 seconds. I really wish I re-read the manual sooner. It says it remembers this state indefinitely so your grips must have had BSM disabled from the start?
All I have to do now is find a way to plug the holes in the end of the bars.
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Doh! What an idiot, serves me right for not reading the manual properly.
You know what ? I'm an idiot to !!! I didn't read the damn manual either, just the part to cut the grip at the good place !!! It's the fourth Oxford grip I have, but the first on an electric bike for sure. So if my heatgrips work well that must be because they had the good configuration done at the factory, I was lucky !!!
Now for the bar ends I tried simple plug without sucess and then I tried to glue the ODI bar ends depicted on the pictures with polyurethane glue. One side have the plug (and no glue), the throttle side don't or it won't turn anymore. And as I didn't move the controls my handlebar is a little wider (very little) now. These bar ends are for mountain bikes.
But indeed that's DIY and can't be done at a large scale by dealers or Zero factory
Hope it helps
Laurent
PS: I've tried to find my bar end plugs on the net without luck but I think they are old models. They need to go OVER the grip to be glued on the throttle side.
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Back to the SR I was astonished how tinkered the heat sink end looks at the official Zero photos on the Homepage. But now I had a close look at the Cycle World-Video and it is plain there is a missing cover
I would change my high resolution photos ;)
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Black fasteners on black parts Zero, come on guys, it's not that hard. I spent a good amount of time mocking my buddy for buying a Harley Nightster which had tons of bolts that looked straight off the Home Depot shelf, three-point Grade 5 markings and all. Then I received my FX ... oops. Not quite as bad but so cheap looking. Total fastener makeover required as time allows to complete the black-out job.
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Got a chance to swing a let over an SR at the IMS in NYC. Here are some insights and photos:
1) I like how I look on it. ;-)
Currently accepting sponsors. :-D
2) Mode switch is near the thumb!
3) CLOCK ON THE DISPLAY!!!
Three modes - Sport, Eco, Custom
Sweet, blue color
Battery shaped indicator instead of gas pump
State of Charge %
4) Seat heater (optional) Nice!
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3) CLOCK ON THE DISPLAY!!!
YES! Finally!!
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I REALLY like the look of this bike, I can't afford one in 2014, but come 2015 I will be getting one.
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Higher resolution photo.
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That display design is a lot better than I initially expected. My only real criticism is in the size of the battery meter, particularly the bars, but that's easily offset by all the other useful information. I'm rather envious, honestly, of the new buyers (but have no reason to trade in - maybe the instrument cluster can be swapped out some day).