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Title: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: Crissa on December 25, 2019, 02:09:57 PM
So I'm off for the holiday and don't have my bike.  Of course, my spouse is home and I asked her to make sure the charge level was right (and well, she could use the practice with my bike.)

On the way onto the highway, she pulled out and put on a bit more throttle than is appropriate before standing the bike back up and... Whoop!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266826136435163136/658776066990669824/image0.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266826136435163136/658776024301043713/image0.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/266826136435163136/658775973839241265/image0.jpg

And my sliders didn't even get onto my bike yet, I was too busy before I left to put them on. :/

-Crissa

PS:  What's with the image tag?  I can't seem to resize the image at all.
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: DonTom on December 26, 2019, 07:17:29 AM
Crissa,

Here is one of your three photos resized to something more reasonable for this forum. Reduce your camera resolution to 640 by 480 pixels. That's what I resized your photo to here.

-Don- Yuma, AZ (RV)
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: Crissa on December 26, 2019, 07:27:35 AM
I don't have control of the photos, I'm traveling and they're my spouse's back at home.

Other photos are automatically resized, I wonder why mine don't?  I tried all the syntaxes of bbcode I knew...

-Crissa
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: DonTom on December 26, 2019, 07:38:59 AM
I don't have control of the photos, I'm traveling and they're my spouse's back at home.

Other photos are automatically resized, I wonder why mine don't?  I tried all the syntaxes of bbcode I knew...

-Crissa
There is always a way to resize photos. as you noticed, I even resized yours.

What I did is first saved your photo and used "Edit"  in Windows 10 with a right click on your photo. And then chose "resize" and then "Pixels" and then "640 by 480".  Then I saved it, and then I posted it here.

i do not know if you're using Win10, but there is always a way to edit the size of a photo on any computer.

-Don-  Yuma, AZ (RV)
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on December 26, 2019, 07:43:05 AM
I'll just say: Ouch. I hope your spouse isn't too sore or apprehensive about the bike now.

Any electric motorcycle is capable of this, from what I've gathered. Traction control helps a lot but isn't perfect, either.

Anyway, for those spooked or curious, here's the write-up so far that I've been curating on the unofficial manual wiki:
https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Loss_of_Traction
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: Crissa on December 26, 2019, 07:49:10 AM
I'm traveling and do not have access to the photos, Don.  I know how to do it on my computer but don't want to download and manipulate them and reupload them.

Thanks, Brian.  She was really upset since it's 'my' bike and she didn't want to blame it.

-Crissa
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: ESokoloff on December 26, 2019, 09:53:07 PM
Sorry to see/read of this mishap (Stuff Happens).

My workaround on the image size was to capture/store images on my photos & then view them there. 

Could be worse. I’m not sure sliders would reduce the damage (other then swing arm scuff).
Might even had made it worse on the rear due to the increased angle/geometry.

Maybe try filling the scuffed plastic with some type of epoxy then color to match.
A new set of grips obviously is needed (at least the left one).
Might consider heated grips.

How’s that rear tire?
Looks a bit thin in the center but can’t tell for sure in the one image that shows it. 
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: Crissa on December 27, 2019, 12:00:18 AM
Thanks for the response!  That's my plan, to just fill the scratches with resin.

The back slider would have saved the metal.  Plastics are plastics, and the tank took no damage (tho I have replacements).  And there were already new grips on the counter that I hadn't put on so...

I live in Santa Cruz, why does everyone suggest heated grips?  It's not my palms that are cold ^-^

-Crissa
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: DonTom on December 27, 2019, 02:25:45 AM
PS:  What's with the image tag?  I can't seem to resize the image at all.
Since I have nothing better to do today in rainy Yuma, I resized all three here to 640 by 480 pixels.

-Don-  Yuma, AZ (RV)
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: DonTom on December 27, 2019, 02:29:08 AM
One more to go.
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: DonTom on December 27, 2019, 02:30:22 AM
And the last one:
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: DonTom on December 27, 2019, 02:39:11 AM
So I'm off for the holiday and don't have my bike.  Of course, my spouse is home and I asked her to make sure the charge level was right (and well, she could use the practice with my bike.)

On the way onto the highway, she pulled out and put on a bit more throttle than is appropriate before standing the bike back up and... Whoop!

And my sliders didn't even get onto my bike yet, I was too busy before I left to put them on. :/

-Crissa
Now that is easier to read the message without the photos, I just want to say I am glad to see only the bike got damaged. And even that doesn't look too bad.

BTW, I normally use the Ego mode or Custom mode with the torque reduced which I think helps a bit to prevent overdoing it.

-Don- in rainy, windy and very bad weather for a day, Yuma, AZ.
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: GaryArt1 on December 27, 2019, 05:06:57 AM
I hope the spouse is okay.  I had my first crash with the SRF earlier today.  Actually the first crash since I went back to motorcycling a few years ago.  I was debating whether to take the bike out or not being it was getting chilly out.  I was just taking a quick run to the store and said what the hell.  I took the left turn pulling out of my driveway probably a little faster than usual with a little tighter turn than I should have.  I hit a patch of sand and just low sided.  the bike slid out and I was able to get cleat of the bike.  Not even the traction control could have saved this.  Luckily only going about 15 mph.  I got a little banged up but I am so glad I had my all my gear on so my ego got hurt more than anything.  I was shocked how good the bike fared.  The bar end and passenger peg took the brunt.  The spring came off the kickstand.  At the beggining I thought the kickstand switch was broken being the bike wouldn't start but as soon as I got the spring back on, it worked fine.  The plastic bracket holding my windshield cracked and is in the process of being glued.  Other than that the bike is perfect.  So impressed how well it took the fall/slide.    Well hopefully that will be the first and last spill.  So now to ice some parts of my body.
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: ESokoloff on December 27, 2019, 06:36:03 PM
...........

I live in Santa Cruz, why does everyone suggest heated grips?  It's not my palms that are cold ^-^

-Crissa

Its probably more when vs where & how long you ride......
I live in SoCal & travel about 9 miles on PCH through Malibu but do it close to sunrise so essentially the coldest time of the day.
Also I must travel through a fairly deep canyon that collects the cold night air (brrrr).
My commutes about 25 each way and the PCH section is last so I'm able to warm up a bit.
It's nice to have Some built in heat (also wear an electric shirt 4-5 months).
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: Crissa on December 28, 2019, 08:52:22 AM
I didn't share the picture of the bruise on her butt!  But mostly her ego is bruised and she's decided to get some hip pads.

She didn't want to blame the bike, since one should really not put on speed when leaned over on wet pavement ^-^

-Crissa

PS Thanks, Don!
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: DonTom on December 28, 2019, 11:38:18 AM
PS Thanks, Don!
I see you recently changed your photos from image to web links. That was a very good idea, as now your  photos  are not limited to this forum's photo size restrictions.

-Don-  Yuma, AZ (RV)
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: Crissa on December 28, 2019, 12:24:25 PM
They were always links, inserted with the img tags.  But someone mentioned it was hard to read the thread, so I edited it down trying to hide the images a little.

-Crissa
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: DonTom on December 28, 2019, 01:05:08 PM
They were always links, inserted with the img tags.  But someone mentioned it was hard to read the thread, so I edited it down trying to hide the images a little.

-Crissa
Yes, but now we leave the forum to view them, where they do not have the display limitations of this forum. The problem is they are too large to display in this forum, but not where the link takes us to.

The best way to set a camera for forum use is to set it for the lowest resolution possible or  640 by 480 pixels.

Old cheap digital cameras  work the best in these forums, some newer cameras will not even go that low.

-Don-  Yuma, AZ (RV)
Title: Re: The dreaded acceleration spin out bites my bike's butt
Post by: Crissa on December 29, 2019, 01:48:29 AM
My newest camera is four years old and none will go that low.

Maybe the old video camera, but it uses firewire to transfer its photos from tape.

And you could always have clicked on 'view image' in the context menu.

-Crissa