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Title: S & SR General Questions
Post by: LeftieBiker on February 26, 2016, 05:47:29 AM
   I was going to make this a topic specifically about ergonomics on the S & SR, but it looks like we need a few general question type topics...

   My 2015 SR came today. It was unloaded in the pouring rain, and surprisingly dirty. It booted up ok, aside from a flashing error light that I *hope* was from the sidestand being down, and since I was cold, wet and hadn't slept yet, I left it in the garage. I did notice, tough, that the handlebars are canted forward, forcing me into a crouch on the bike. That position is no good for me, and I'm assuming that I can loosen the bar clamps slightly, roll the bars back to full upright, and then loosen each control clamp, reorient it to match the bars, and re-tighten everything. Am I correct here, hopefully...?
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: evtricity on February 26, 2016, 06:01:54 AM
Yes for the flashing meaning stand down / kill switch off.

Yes you can adjust the bars to suit as suggested.
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: LeftieBiker on February 26, 2016, 06:12:14 AM
Yes for the flashing meaning stand down / kill switch off.

Yes you can adjust the bars to suit as suggested.

   Great! Thanks for the fast response. I know this isn't a touring bike, but I'd read that it has a nice, upright riding position if so desired, and I need that. I also noticed a little groaning from the front (?) of the bike as I shifted it around in the garage. Any idea what that is? Finally, I hadn't planned on washing an electric bike in February, but it's dirty enough that I figure a gentle warm water spray from a pump sprayer will be needed to get what seems to be road dirt off of it. How much do I have to worry about water infiltration with a very low-pressure spray? Will a gentle, natural dishwashing liquid work fine for soap?
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: grmarks on February 26, 2016, 07:48:21 AM
One thing to watch when you rotate the bars is the throttle position, it has a pin that pokes into a hole in the handlebars,  so it will rotate with the bars. The only thing that this affects is the cable that comes out of the throttle against the brake assembly once you reposition it ( brake assembly).
Be warned, if you undo the throttle assembly it's spring will uncoil and I found it impossible to put back in unless I completely removed it from the bike and pre assembled it. This means unplugging the cables from behind the headlight. It involves cutting cable ties on the bars and behind the headlight, removing the blinkers and headlight and the dash (i think).
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: benswing on February 26, 2016, 08:03:05 AM
The sound the bike makes as you roll it around your garage is completely normal. That happens with all the bikes.  And washing it the way you suggested is fine. I have been through thunderstorms on my SR and it is fine.


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Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: LeftieBiker on February 26, 2016, 08:05:59 AM
   So I definitely don't want to try to rotate the throttle assemble *on* the bars, but want to leave it alone and let it rotate *with* them? I'll still be able to position the brake lever ok? And the little switch assembly there can be rotated?

   Benswing slipped. Thanks for the reassurance.
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: LeftieBiker on February 26, 2016, 11:10:24 AM
   I started to register the bike with Zero for the warranty, confident that I had all of the info. Nope. Where is the power pack number located? I'll check the manual again, but don't remember seeing that...ok, the manual says "upper front left." Can anyone be more specific? Tomorrow I hope to register the bike. Then I'll try to get it ready to ride (bar reposition and wash, general check) on Saturday, then on Sunday, if it really hits the mid fifties temp-wise, my first ride.
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: Ndm on February 26, 2016, 06:02:33 PM
If you are sitting on the bike the left hand side, look in from the front at the upper corner of the battery box that's where mine is
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: LeftieBiker on February 27, 2016, 11:52:37 AM
If you are sitting on the bike the left hand side, look in from the front at the upper corner of the battery box that's where mine is

   Standing in front of the bike, I see a label on the upper left (its upper left, not mine) of the pack housing, but it doesn't have a pack serial number on it, just some general info and "engine type" or something like that. I see a label on the left side of the housing, also with no real info except pack size, and the VIN label on the steering tube/fork area. I'll be washing the bike and moving the bars tomorrow, so hopefully I'll find it then. (I hope to ride the bike for the first time on Sunday.)
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: LeftieBiker on February 28, 2016, 10:34:49 AM
What's up with the Zero sidestand? It leans the bike so far over that I worry about it falling while just sitting in my garage, and it also doesn't seem designed to provide any resistance to being moved while the bike is parked, making the setup even less stable...
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on February 28, 2016, 01:13:20 PM
What's up with the Zero sidestand? It leans the bike so far over that I worry about it falling while just sitting in my garage, and it also doesn't seem designed to provide any resistance to being moved while the bike is parked, making the setup even less stable...

It is definitely not as good a sidestand design as on any other bike I've owned, for all those reasons.

Hopefully by the time they can justify producing a new design, they'll consider these factors. I'm mainly interested in a larger foot, but the lean angle is too steep as well.
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: Electric Terry on February 28, 2016, 05:21:20 PM
The DS or DSR would have provided a more upright seating position than the S or SR does.  But you can get ROX risers if you need them higher.

http://www.revzilla.com/rox-risers (http://www.revzilla.com/rox-risers)

Even though the bike is designed to get wet and ride in the rain, there's no sense in spraying it with water when you don't need to is my opinion.  Wipe it down with a microfiber cloth if you need every few months if you need, but remember it's a motorcycle that is designed to be ridden and doesn't need to be clean enough to crawl into bed with you.  Or does it?  ;) 
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: Doug S on February 28, 2016, 09:34:43 PM
Since I had an incident where my bike wouldn't run for 24 hours after I washed it thoroughly, I've been using one of those waterless wash products. I live in California anyhow, so saving water by not washing my vehicles seems like a pretty sensible thing to do for two reasons. It is a little pricey, so the bike (and the car) doesn't get cleaned as often as it used to, but that stuff works very well and the bike looks very nice when it is cleaned.
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: LeftieBiker on February 29, 2016, 01:07:48 AM
"Even though the bike is designed to get wet and ride in the rain, there's no sense in spraying it with water when you don't need to is my opinion.  Wipe it down with a microfiber cloth if you need every few months if you need, but remember it's a motorcycle that is designed to be ridden and doesn't need to be clean enough to crawl into bed with you.  Or does it?  ;)  "

   The sprayer I used puts out so little pressure that I washed and rinsed the bike with abut 1 gallon of water. I also avoided spraying the charger area. I actually had no intention of washing it, but when it arrived the seat, bars, grips and fenders were covered with road grit. The dealer claims it was shipped very clean, so I have to check the odo to see if the shipper decided to take it for a joyride. The owner's manual is also missing. Fortunately I've been using a PDF of it.
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: NoiseBoy on February 29, 2016, 04:39:33 AM
Don't use dishwashing liquid as some brands contain salt, which isnt good for the fasteners that already rust very rapidly.  Get some cheap car shampoo.
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: LeftieBiker on February 29, 2016, 05:05:42 AM
Don't use dishwashing liquid as some brands contain salt, which isnt good for the fasteners that already rust very rapidly.  Get some cheap car shampoo.

   We use natural brands that don't contain salt, but thanks for the warning. I also only use a few drops, to minimize the need to rinse.
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: c-fut on August 12, 2016, 10:32:54 AM
I am trying to adjust my handlebar as well. I was able to loosen and rotate the mirrors on both sides but I'm having trouble with the controls. I started with loosening the 2 phillips screws on the left control, I have the bottom piece loose but I'm not able to rotate the top as I didn't want to force it. I think I remember on my ICE bikes that there was a nipple that went into the handlebar to keep it in place. Is that why I can't rotate it?
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: JaimeC on August 12, 2016, 05:31:43 PM
The owner's manual is also missing. Fortunately I've been using a PDF of it.

The "Owner's Manual" is just a thumb drive the dealer gives you.  I'd prefer an actual BOOK, but I guess this is "progress."  I put the PDF on my phone so I always have it in a readable format when I'm riding.  It works just fine with the Kindle app.  It would be better if Zero made it available in .mobi format, but PDF will do for now.
Title: Re: S & SR General Questions
Post by: Richard230 on August 12, 2016, 08:15:34 PM
The owner's manual is also missing. Fortunately I've been using a PDF of it.

The "Owner's Manual" is just a thumb drive the dealer gives you.  I'd prefer an actual BOOK, but I guess this is "progress."  I put the PDF on my phone so I always have it in a readable format when I'm riding.  It works just fine with the Kindle app.  It would be better if Zero made it available in .mobi format, but PDF will do for now.

What I did was to take my thumb drive to Staples and have them print out the entire manual on paper for me as I don't like to look at text on a computer screen, especially while I am working on a vehicle.  Printing the manual cost about $10, which I thought was a pretty good deal, considering what the typical paper vehicle manual costs if bought from a dealer or book store.