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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Pressure Transducer Problems
« on: December 10, 2015, 01:41:03 AM »
We've talked about strain gauges before, here: http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=4327.msg27650#msg27650
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Volts from controller - volts from back EMF = working voltage.
At low RPM the voltage from the controller is high and volts from back EMF is low so you have lots of working voltage. As RPM increases the working voltage approaches zero.
Zero working voltage = zero torque
Basically, the harder you push the more it pushes back. But field weakening limits the amount it pushes back.
Field weakening basically allows you to keep positive working voltage at high RPM. Field weakening can be applied to SPM motors but requires LOTS of current and you need to have a better cooling solution because of the amount of heat generated.
IPM motors are perfect candidates for field weakening and it can be done at the power levels required at lower RPM. As a result IPM motors can hit much higher RPM without additional cooling required
do you have also the curve of the zero SR?
RNM, at low switching speeds, the DC resistance of the copper windings dominates the inductance in limiting how much current you can drive through the motor; at some transition speed, inductance becomes a factor and you can no longer get maximum current through the windings (or, stated equivalently, BEMF starts to rise), which reduces the torque the motor can put out. That's called the "field weakening" point; IIRC it occurs around 3500 rpm on my bike (a 2014 SR), which is somewhere around 60 mph. BEMF is not a factor at low speeds, DC resistance of the copper wire is.
The peak current is 360A for 10 secs. That's what it should deliver when accelerating from standstill
Lecram, it's a limitation of the ESC. Full current (full torque) at 0 rpm would induce great current ripple because the BEMF is very low. To have full current, you would have to increase ESC switching freq a LOT, but that means a lot of additional heat (=burned MOSFETs)
Actually the BEMF voltage doesn't have an influence on the current ripple. Only the motor (winding) inductance does. The very low BEMF just means that a lot of current is needed to get some active power. But from the ESC limitations still full torque should be available...
Thus I also think it's rather a configuration limitation.
in fact the Sevcon Gen4 does provide full current at 0RPM,
The peak current is 360A for 10 secs. That's what it should deliver when accelerating from standstill
The "slow" acceleration at lower speeds is purely a human perception, not an imposed limitation on the vehicle.