ElectricMotorcycleForum.com

I got the Zero back from service now, so I could snap some pics of the cable and charging screen. The cable is of type 3 phase and 32A.

I now got a more sensible 27A and 2.9kW speed on the charger marked 7.3kW, indicating a single phase charging station almost able to max out one of the two 3kW receivers on the bike. That makes more sense than the 2.3kW I saw before the service was done on the same charger, so seems the fixes they did (replace faulty wiring, update to latest firmwares) helped the charging speed. 

Question: Since the cable is marked as 32A, would that mean I get 32A per phase max? I am sure I have seen A in the range 50-60 while charging at a more powerful phase 3 charger.

32A on the cable means 32 per phase yes. That range you've read is what is going into the battery, not what's coming from the charge station.
In .no, using type2 mode3 charging, you will only see stations marked 3.6 kW, 7 kW, 11 kW, 22 kW and in some rare outdated cases supporting the older generations of Renault Zoe, 44 kW.
DC charging on the other hand is a totally different bag of tricks and numbers..

Welcome aboard! *waves*

<quote> I was assuming that the sport mode gives you 100% of the torque, but it may be a false assumption. </quote> Kinda, yes.. from standing still it won't give you all like Tesla does.. The mapping goes a little more gradually up to 30 mph. That's kinda what makes it more forgiving than just outright madness. I suspect they did this to not overwhelm experienced riders yet retain that sportiness you're seeking.
I too came from EV cars and had many kilometres from specifically a Model S P85, so i was used to that insane acceleration as well. Even so, i kinda like that it's a bit more sedated in that sense.

That said, my time in ECO mode was extremely short.. Same with sport. I went straight for custom mode, and stayed there 3'rd year running..
I like that you can set it to your preferences.

Hey guys, I want to use the onboard charger (1.3kw) plus the external one used by Otten (3.3kw) to charge a 2021 DS I am going to buy. Can't work out if my home network is sufficient or not. Apparently it needs a constant 16 amp current for the Otten device. The fusebox in my house says the following: 240v 50/60Hz 40A. There are two interruptors so I am pretty sure there are 2 circuits. On our electricity bill it says our maximum contracted power is 2.2KW. I know nothing about electricity, so I am not sure if having only 2.2Kw immediately means we cannot charge at the 4.6kw I would like, or if the amount of amps available and having 2 circuits would change the situation. Thanks!

Hi totalnewbie. As a certified electrician, I'm missing information here.. Let's see if i understand you correctly..
- Your main fuse is 40 Amps
-- But you're not saying anything about the number of phases.. I'm guessing 2, of which one is neutral, so in essence one phase at 230 VAC/50Hz. Unless you're in GB, which would make this 240VAC/50Hz.
- You're not informing anything related to the underlying fuses other than it looks like there are 2 of them.
-- If that is the case, i'm guessing these are 16A, or if there are high power uses, one at 20 and one at 16A.
- You're not informing us of the setup in the area where you want to charge. This is essential in order to be able to reply wether or not it's possible with your current setup. What is the size of the fuse covering the area where the chargers will be used and what else is connected to the same circuit?
- Your power company has restricted you to a plan that maxes out at 2.2 kW.
-- This tells me you have other forms of heating / water heating as 2.2 only covers lights and electronics..
-- I'm also guessing you use gas for stove and similar..

If those assumptions are correct, your fuses will not hold, plus the chargers will push you into a more expensive deal with the power company and would be something worth looking into before it's happening as it will undoubtedly affect your power bill.
Do feel free to pm if you don't want to advertise the setup here on the forum, but as is, more information is required to be able to reply correctly.

@remmie Dude.. This would not have happened without you. So.. Thank you too for all the input and wisdom.
That said, and this is just a personal comment that bears no meaning at all for anyone but me, whenever you mention Ölflex, my backside tingles.
The reason for that is simply that it has a rather conflicting history with a (now) competing brand called Rheyflex.
Rheyflex is the originator in all of this, and full disclosure, the brand that is produced by the very company i work for.
So.. You lot are of course free to choose whatever brand you want, but to me they would always be translated to a Rheyflex variant.

Actually, i'm contemplating getting my hands on a Pureax variant as it is even more flexible and sturdier, as well as being the proper color for HV EVSE connections..

@Gary Well, if you're asking, i would like even more details on the electronic components to make it easier to source.
Apart from that, this is a very good start and i'm already thinking on doing this project during winter as my driving season is nearing it's end nowadays..

Hi Gary

Thank you.
I work for a cable manufacturer, so finding a flexible cable shouldn't be too hard.
I also exist in an arctic country, so we are used to look at cables for low temps.

Only issue i have is the same as Remmie experienced. Finding a 5x4/6mm+1/2x0,25 is difficult, but we can use alternatives.

Considering the chargers do upto 3 kW, you would never actually realize 7.2 kW chargespeed..
But.. they are connected L1 - N and L2 - N, so in theory you _should_ be able to load them parallely on one phase to get 6 kW.

I remember reading an article some time back, there was a laboratory that had dissected several types of LiIon batteries to see how charging affects them.
Using electron microscope, they revealed that the batteries take damage when charging, the amount of amperage when doing so had NO effect. Therefore, semi-quick charging not exceeding manufacturers recommendation and keeping the heat to a manageable level, should actually wear less on the battery than slow charging.

Based on that, feel free to plan ahead as desired.

Being in .no, i´ve often pondered the same.. We use a 3-phase system these chargers don´t support. Having access to one-phase 32A would be more flexible and desirable.
I´m currently pondering how to solve something similar on a DSR with the 3x diginow setup (using 2 chargers in parallel on one phase)

I can access WAY more free chargers this way and also utilize much quicker charging at home..