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Energica / Re: Regen and CC user interface while riding..?
« on: July 19, 2021, 08:43:35 AM »
Quote from: Crissa on July 17, 2021, 12:09:40 PM
Quote from: MVetter on July 17, 2021, 02:04:41 AM
I have absolutely no problem with the way I change Regen while riding. First, I don't often change regen modes. But when I do at this point it's automatic for me. Trigger left hand pointer ringer, toggle thumb right however many times I need, press Mode twice to confirm. Done. I can do this in under a second and not even need to look at the screen.
That sounds horrible.

-Crissa

Crissa, It's actually a very smart and safe way to change modes. His eyes never leave the road - a huge safety advantage. I hope to one day mimic his way of changing modes.

Energica's are very different from Zero's - there's 16 combinations, all preset. I feel Energica's presets are just right.
Whereas - A 14 SR is very simple, 3 mode settings, 2 are preset and 'custom' is the only adjustable.

Spend time on an Energica and you quickly learn why Morgan's  way of doing business is smart.

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Energica / Re: Charging temps
« on: July 19, 2021, 08:29:03 AM »
Quote from: MrMogensen on July 18, 2021, 07:24:51 PM

What in the world is that to the left? Is than an Energica fitted with a gigantic aerokit?  :)

The streamlined bike is Alan Smith's 17 EVA w/13.4 battery.
Range is at least 100 miles. I don't think he's ever tested the max range.
To charge, the top box pivots quickly backward on a hinge.
All of the body work detaches fairly quickly.
To say he's talented is clearly an understatement.
One might ask - Is it finished? Answer - Alan will always be making improvements thus it'll never be finished.

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Energica / Re: Charging temps
« on: July 15, 2021, 09:58:31 AM »
Quote from: ultrarnr on July 15, 2021, 06:48:47 AM
The charging speed really slows when the battery gets hot. I know a rider with a Esse 9 who had been riding and charging nonstop for about 24 hours. With a SOC of 5% he was charging at 6kw/21A and it was going to take 1:54 to get to 80% SOC.

Curious - Was the battery a 13.4 or a 21.5?

My experiences to date are:

[1] I had a 17 Eva (13.4). Lowest Charge rate experience was 6kw. Charge stated at 9kw. It was noon in direct sunlight, 25kw charger utilized. Ambient temp was ~105f. I was there for about an hour. Charged just enough to get to cooler temps, maybe 75f. Battery turned green by the next charge.

[2] 21.5 now, lowest about 3 weeks ago, 3rd charge of the day, charge started ~11kw, ended at 8kw. Ambient temp was ~110f.

[3] Around mid-May 2021 with the 21.5, riding for 18 hours straight, covered 550 miles, multiple charges, high ambient temps most of the ride. Lowest charge rate experienced late afternoon was 9kw. Darkness arrived, temps dropped to ~40f, ascending to 7k feet, battery turned green. Next charge - started at 16kw, ended at 12kw.

Conclusions - [1] 13.4 battery is gold, [2] 21.5, ambient temps greatly matter.

Also, When I ride for distance, I ride 55-60 mph (actual). My rides traditionally are 300-400 miles in a day. A short day would be 200-250 miles.

Note: IMS is at Sonoma Raceway this weekend. If you're close by, stop by and visit with Energica and acquire answers directly from the Energica folks.

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Energica / Re: If you have Key Less Start Avoid this Firmware
« on: May 01, 2021, 09:59:13 AM »
ultrarnr - By your original comments, v.039 certainly seems buggy.
You spoke about others with the same v.039 issues.

Suggestion - Contact your dealer and ask what the fix likely is.
Please ask the others to do the same.

My experience is - Energica's customer service is second to none.
That's just my 2 cents worth. Good Luck.

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Energica / Re: Hand guards for the SS9?
« on: October 16, 2020, 04:26:52 AM »
Quote from: heroto on October 05, 2020, 04:23:12 AM
Bark busters or similar for the SS9?
To keep hands warmer in colder weather, and provide some brake lever protection.
The right side handlebar inside has a flange about 4 cm in. Not sure what that is about, but I can say it limits the length of an insert.


STM-005-02-BK - This model of Barkbusters won't work out-of-the-box.

I just opened a set.

The flange is a limiting factor -but- if the insert is shortened by approx 3/4" (19cm), once shortened, lengthen the flutes, it should work.

I saw a set of these on a Zero - I'm told they've held up well the past 3 years -and- work well in winter.

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Energica / Re: 17 Eva - Ground wire question
« on: October 10, 2020, 09:46:18 AM »
Quote from: MVetter on October 10, 2020, 06:48:45 AM
There's a bunch of ground leads tied to a lug under the inverter, just in front of the seat. Please check with Demoni if that's a safe thing to tie into, though.

MVetter, Thanks.

I'll certainly verify with Demoni early next week in person.
Sounds like a road trip is in order.

DR1 Denali's - I did find a safe way to hook them up.
They're amazing. I'm now able to safely ride after dark here in Lake County.
Take Hyw 29 between Calistoga and Middletown - lots of tight turns.
With only a stock headlight on the tight turns, it's beyond dangerous.

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Energica / 17 Eva - Ground wire question
« on: October 10, 2020, 04:35:43 AM »
Ground wire - Where’s a good place to attach one?
I've looked but no success. All of the grounds are part of existing connectors. 

Ground wire - I prefer to attach one to a proper grounding point vice splice into an existing ground.

These threads discuss 12 vdc but not a specific / proper grounding point - [1] ‘12v’ supply by Anubis-R and [2] ‘Better horns and more’ by DonTom.

I’ve installed a fuse block (6 slots) for accessories on the right side of the frame under the pseudo gas tank.
I need a good ground for this fuse block.

First accessory item is:
I just acquired a set of Denali DR1's. Demand is <2 amps.
Mfg states 1.6 amp for both. I did a load test - My reading was 1.8 amps @ 13.1 vdc.

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Energica / Re: 17 Eva rear axle shim
« on: October 05, 2020, 07:13:16 PM »
Quote from: MoneyFor on October 05, 2020, 05:38:39 PM

MoneyFor - Very helpful.
Nice touch showing the location with arrows.

Thank-you.

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Energica / 17 Eva rear axle shim
« on: October 05, 2020, 07:55:48 AM »
Where does it go?

[1] Between the swing arm and brake assy
-or-
[2] Between the brake assy and wheel?

I decided to change the rear tire today.
When I removed the rear axle, the shim fell to the concrete.
I didn’t notice where it’s location was.

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Energica / Re: 17 Eva - 12 vdc, 10 amp source question
« on: September 19, 2020, 10:29:14 AM »
Quote from: DonTom on September 19, 2020, 09:04:33 AM
What is it that you're trying to run at 10 amps at ~13 volts?
-Don-  Reno, NV

Any combination not to exceed 8 amps.

Items -
Tracker (APRS)
Driving / fog led lights
GPS
Cell phone
Dash cam
Heated gloves
Heated jacket
Heated grips
maybe other items

With only 5 amps available, I’ll have to decide what’s a priority.

Off the bike, I’ll have to perform a load test of each item to ensure the 5 amp max will not be exceeded [actually 4 amps, no more than 80%].

When I run the 17 Eva, I normally ride all day, between 250-450 miles, so come winter, heated items would be preferred.

With Electrify America now charging per KW vice per minute in California, I'll probably try a 600 mile day soon.

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Energica / Re: 17 Eva - 12 vdc, 10 amp source question
« on: September 19, 2020, 08:30:12 AM »
Quote from: Crissa on September 18, 2020, 06:50:18 AM
Gauge of wire safe for amps varies by length as well.
-Crissa
Crissa - Thanks for the reminder.

I've decided to keep F6 as a 5 amp fuse per the manual.

As of this writing, having limited info, I'm unwilling to make any mods to the bike that might damage it, e.g. [1] replace the 5 amp with a 10 amp fuse, [2] tap into the brown wire.


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Energica / Re: 17 Eva - AC charging fan is failing
« on: September 18, 2020, 12:18:43 PM »
Quote from: Demoni on September 18, 2020, 11:21:18 AM

2. Before you order a replacement fan I would suggest you check the metal mesh screen that sits above the fan, it's blades pass very close to the mesh.
If the mesh gets bent it can contact the blades when they spin, causing a pretty ugly noise. I have seen 2 fans go bad over the years, they work till they stop, no noise.
A fine pick can be used to hook the mesh and pull it slightly up. If this changes the tone of the noise you have found the culprit.

1. *I would suggest that you contact your dealer first if your bike is under warranty.*
You will need to remove the right side under saddle fairing to access the plug for the charge fan. It's the smaller painted piece that is between the tank cover and the silver tail fairing. It is held in place by 2 bolts and a pin that snaps out of a rubber grommet on the tank cover.
Once removed there will be some wires running along the subframe, you are looking for a small rectangular 2 pin (jst jwpf).

Problem solved - The mesh screen was the issue. I used a small safety pin, bent the tip, pulled up, key on, noise was gone.

Also, fan connector, nice to know where it's at.

Thanks so much for the info and invaluable tip.


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Energica / 17 Eva - AC charging fan is failing
« on: September 18, 2020, 06:48:02 AM »
Question - Disconnect the fan how? Where is the connector or is it hard-wired?

Two days ago, the fan noise became horrendous.

I’m thinking of replacing the fan myself with an IP67 rated unit.

I removed various items but was unable to fully remove the fan assy - the short fan wires prevented me from doing so.

Background Fan Shroud Combo info by Demoni - "Strange problem with my SS9 today, « Reply #18 on: July 03, 2020, 05:03:22 AM »"

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Energica / 17 Eva - 12 vdc, 10 amp source question
« on: September 18, 2020, 06:43:43 AM »
Is there a full 10 amps avail, if so where?

Minimum wire size for:
[1]  5 amp - 18 ga
[2] 10 amp - 16 ga

Fuse 6 - rated at 5 amps  [per the manual, pg 70]

Back of F6
   bottom wire is brown, looks to be a 14 ga wire (at least 16 ga)
   top is blue, looks to be 18 ga

F6 is the source for the unused connector (hidden behind the dash), normally used for the official USB outlet.

This thread was helpful but .....
“12v supply”, « on: March 25, 2019, 03:10:04 AM » by Anubis-R

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Energica / Re: Battery care question
« on: May 15, 2020, 09:28:36 AM »
To all, Thanks for the input.

MVetter  - Lots of valid points - Maintain between 80/20, Monthly to 100% for balancing, Sounds good. Thanks.

After reviewing the manual, I was curious, I decided to attain 0%.
Went for a ride, returned with about 7%, then drove back and forth somewhat slowly (~ 15-20 mph) on the road in front of the house.
At 5%, sure enough, the warning appeared - "Activating Limp Mode, Low Battery SOC ...."
I deactivated the warning.
Shortly after achieving 3%, 1 mile remaining, the SOC immediately dropped to 0%.
Top speed was now 22 mph.
Now parked, charging overnight at 120vac / 6 amps.
Tomorrow, perform a range test.

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