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Title: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: oobflyer on June 21, 2015, 07:57:36 PM
I got my free Delta-Q "Quic" charger in the mail yesterday (along with a Zero riding jacket and a pair of gloves). I hooked it up, along with the other two Delta-Q chargers - for a total of 4 kW of charging.
The bike charged from 87% to 97% in about 20 minutes. I'll be testing the setup again soon :-)

Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: oobflyer on June 22, 2015, 11:20:35 AM
I rode 110 miles today, stopping for lunch at a winery that has a charging station.
When I arrived I had 44% left on the gauge (the photo below was snapped after charging for a few minutes) - the next time I checked - I had 100% charge. I'm not sure exactly how long it took, since I didn't continually monitor, but it was somewhere around 90 minutes. Not bad.
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: Justin Andrews on June 22, 2015, 12:54:27 PM
Congrats!
How are you finding transporting it?
 
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: Burton on June 22, 2015, 07:23:56 PM
4kw of charging here with 2 RSP-2500's in series ;)

RSP2500 vs Elcon Size comparison (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8zFU6kxVwk)

Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: oobflyer on June 22, 2015, 07:41:13 PM
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How are you finding transporting it?

I got the Givi top box and side cases with my bike - I put one charger in each case. They fit, but it doesn't leave much space for anything else  :-\
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: Doug S on June 22, 2015, 08:36:41 PM
They fit, but it doesn't leave much space for anything else  :-\

Well, for starters, there are lots bigger cases available. I don't have the side cases but I did upgrade to an E470 top box:

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/givi-e470-monolock-topcase-ea-47-liters-case (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/givi-e470-monolock-topcase-ea-47-liters-case)

You will need to be careful of the weight, however. You're already way past the sticker weight capacity, and realistically, loading a bunch of weight high up on the bike doesn't do anything good for its handling.
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: Xantus on June 23, 2015, 02:41:54 PM
 :o not a good Storage think with 3 big Loading devices ...

i use 1 adittional loading Device in Germany because it is posible to us Bike loading device an the Aditional device on one PLug (seams to be 3KW at max load).

better it would be if there is a way to load at an 380V CEE Plug (10KW 3P). Does someone know a result like that ? (without transporting many mor loading device)

by the Way, could it be that the Direct Akku Plug on the Zero is behind an BMS ? so the "loadin Device"  (the expensive Yellow monterbox from Zero) is an simpel Power Supply?
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: Manzanita on June 24, 2015, 07:37:04 AM
oobflyer,

So what is the total cost of this charging setup, if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks,

-Alan
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: Burton on June 24, 2015, 05:25:05 PM
Woke up this morning and realized I hadn't plugged my bike in last night when I got home as I almost immediately left to go pick up a mountain bike back in the city.

It typically takes me about 30/45 minutes to get ready in the morning so I plugged my bike up, used my Y connector to power on my meanwell stack, plugged meanwell stack in and by the time I left I was close to 85% ^_^

Hurray for quick charging! (I was around 50% at the start of this process)
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: oobflyer on June 24, 2015, 11:51:07 PM
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You're already way past the sticker weight capacity, and realistically, loading a bunch of weight high up on the bike doesn't do anything good for its handling.

I'm sure there is a a negative effect on handling (on the long rides I'm riding conservatively to maximize range anyway), but the specs for the top box and side cases from the Givi website says each case can hold 10-11 lbs. Each charger weighs just under 11 lbs., so I'm probably overweight just a bit (with the addition of the extension cords, Y-adapters, etc.), but not by much.

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So what is the total cost of this charging setup, if you don't mind me asking?

$2200 (two chargers and two Y-adapters from Zero and a J1772 adapter from Hollywood Electrics).

It would have been another $600, but Zero gave me a charger for free since I was one of the owners that bought the bike just before the price drop (they also gave us a free riding jacket and pair of gloves).

It's pricey, but I chose to go that route so I can take longer rides and charge quickly without voiding the warranty  :)

Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: Doug S on June 25, 2015, 12:50:21 AM
...the specs for the top box and side cases from the Givi website says each case can hold 10-11 lbs.

I'll take your word about the box Zero is selling (is it the E30?) but I know when I upgraded to the E470, I checked its capacity, and they say no more than 3 kg (6.6 lbs). Which is just ridiculous -- I can't think of anything you'd need a 47-liter enclosure for that would weigh less than 7 pounds, but that is the rating.
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: oobflyer on June 25, 2015, 02:54:46 AM
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they say no more than 3 kg

You're right - I just looked at Zero's website the top box rating is 3 Kg. I was surprised. The side cases say 5 Kg, but the top box seems just as supported and strong (if not stronger) than the side cases. In any case (no pun intended) I'm not concerned about the extra weight.

Last weekend I did a 100+ mile ride with my wife on the back, plus all of the chargers and adapters. There was no noticeable difference in handling/range.

Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: Doug S on June 25, 2015, 03:23:22 AM
I just looked at Zero's website the top box rating is 3 Kg...In any case (no pun intended) I'm not concerned about the extra weight.

I don't worry about it a lot either...I once put a 30 lb box of kitty litter in mine and it was fine. Seems pretty clear it's some sort of liability limitation, but you should be aware of it nonetheless.
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: bartle_man on June 26, 2015, 05:47:18 AM
How did you get the free charger? I bought my 2015 DS right before the price drop and haven't received anything :(


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Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: oobflyer on June 27, 2015, 08:35:04 AM
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How did you get the free charger?

I got this in the mail a couple of weeks ago. Do you live in the US or Canada?
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: kphonik on June 27, 2015, 06:52:30 PM
My swag showed up this week - others saw theirs a few weeks ago.

They're trickling out but if you didnt get an email you should reach out to Zero I think.
Title: Re: Charging at 4 kW
Post by: bartle_man on June 30, 2015, 11:05:27 PM
I never got it, I'll see if my dealer can help.


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