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[NoMoreIdeas]

Unfortunately,  this kind of statements are the reason that nobody wants to make charging systems for Zero motorcycles. 

I have a homemade charging system for sale posted on the Facebook group ,and when I read the questions/comments/warnings from the people that, probably,  don't even know what a BMS is, but they do have opinions, I  don't know if I should laugh or cry.

Yes , the charger have to be properly setup with the proper parameters for the Zero battery pack.
I agree, the contactor shouldn't have to disconnect the battery from the charger,  but my point is that your statement about mandatory communication between the BMS and charger, and fire hazard  was wrong.  Don't forget that the OEM Quick Charger sold by Zero has no communication with the BMS, just a charge enable signal.

If people are buying a charging system that doesnt have any communication with the BMS, and they dont even know what a BMS is, they shouldnt buy it in the first place. I also never said it was mandatory, but you should be aware of the conditions you are charging in if it doesnt. Case in point - I was charging at .6C yesterday after a hot day of riding and kept an eye on my pack temp - it went to 111F, I manually tapered down the current and the temp dropped. Per Zero's guidelines, charging should be tapered starting at 109f.

Also I'm 90% sure the delta-q charger is in bidirectional communication with the bike but I cant find any writing about it; Its not canbus but the 2 center aux pins provide a signal (I have verified this with an oscilliscope when charging and not charging). For example the procedure to charge with a delta-q charger is to key on to enable the contactor, plug in the delta-q to charge and key off. The contactor will open below 32f as its safe to ride but not charge, and if the delta-q provided a charge anyway, it would immediately start plating the battery. I couldnt find anything in wiriting, but the delta-q has to receive some kind of 'not okay to charge' signal from the bike, Zero would be insane to not do this.

[Brian2000]

Out of curiosity, why order the PFC 2500 when the HK-J 3300 is available (specifically the HK-J-H132-32 model)? https://www.elconchargers.com/catalog/item/9034090/10295140.htm

I'm considering this as an option, but I want to be sure I can handle the build myself. If it comes programmed from Elcon, is there really anything more than cabling and mounting I need to be concerned with? Also, if I'm okay waiting for delivery and not having a warranty, are there other reasons to order from Elcon over EVComponents? Thanks in advance.

For reference I have a 2020 FXS 7.2.

[RickSteeb]

I have a pair of ElCons that I bought from Hollywood Electrics back in the day.  I have them mounted on Givi compatible plates in enclosures, and ran them with the stock charger on my '14SR to achieve 6kW+.  Now that I have digi-Now rig installed, I no longer have use for the ElCons, unless I can find the aux port on my '13FX...  I'd consider breaking up the set if I get a reasonable offer for one ElCon!

[NoMoreIdeas]

I'm considering this as an option, but I want to be sure I can handle the build myself. If it comes programmed from Elcon, is there really anything more than cabling and mounting I need to be concerned with? Also, if I'm okay waiting for delivery and not having a warranty, are there other reasons to order from Elcon over EVComponents? Thanks in advance.

For reference I have a 2020 FXS 7.2.

While I haven't dealt with Elcon, I would assume they would have decent customer support in the US. I did order from EV components - they were significantly cheaper. They definitely wanted to help but the language barrier was very apparent. When I started asking questions about different types of connectors or if I could order additional connectors / pins, I got responses that just didnt make sense. Just ordering the unit was fine, their only option is 2 day shipping from China, but it takes them almost a month to get the unit ready to ship.

Are you just looking to use as an offboard charger in your garage? If so I would just order the unit with the enable pin to start charging. You'll need cabling, connectors and a hydraulic crimper.

If you are looking to do public J1772 charging, it become sort of a mess. You'll need a CANBUS enabled charger and this controller is the easiest way to go: https://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/evcc-charge-controller.html. You'll also need a J1772 plug. Its not impossible, but will require much more in depth knowledge of how the all the charging magic works.

[KrazyEd]

Here is the location on my 2013 FX