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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: 2017 DS 6.5 slowly losing charge
« on: January 19, 2024, 08:11:08 PM »
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / 2017 DS 6.5 slowly losing charge
« on: January 19, 2024, 12:12:17 AM »
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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Color Swaps
« on: March 23, 2018, 11:51:43 PM »
Along the line of swaps, I'd like to swap the floppy front OEM fender on my 2017 DS with an oem S fender. Apparently it can be done, even though the front wheel sizes are different. So my question is, how does one go about acquiring a stock front fender from an S? 

(should this be its own new thread?)

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: App won't let me update firmware
« on: December 21, 2017, 01:46:02 AM »
Ya, I’m trying to calm a bit, however I’m really struggling with feeling violated. In my mind, the essential benefit of the bargain on which I made my purchase decision was untrue.  Terms such as material misrepresentation (borderline fraudulent), and nullification of the benefit of the bargain come to mind. I truly would not have purchased the bike if I was properly informed that, a) I had to bring to dealer for routine sw updates, and/or b) the bike required break-in & similar routine maintenance.  EITHER of those were dealbreakers.  And both were assured to me to not be required, yet both are.

Indeed the bike runs fine as it is. However, the fact remains that at some point I am going to figure out how to drag this thing to a dealer.  It’s not fitting in the back of my VW, and I don’t have any local friends with trailers. (knot in stomach returns).  I’m looking at a supreme PITA that I would happily have NOT paid a premium to have to endure. I really wish I had just bought back my old ’94 K75 for $2,500, instead of getting fooled into paying over $10k more (including dealer fee’s, taxes, etc) to deal with the above.

Finally, my contrasting datapoint is my Nissan Leaf. I’ve had it for 4 years and 30k miles and have NEVER had to take it to the dealer. No sw updates, no routine maintenance. Absolutely nothing. Thats what I thought I was getting with a Zero, which is why I went against recommendations and bought one out-of-range from a dealer.

Anyway, I’m cooling down.  Thanks for letting me vent.  My biggest concern at the moment is actually that my anger and outrage could morph into resentment and disgust. I think many people who participate in a forum like this understand the emotional connection between man & machine (so to speak). So it saddens me to watch what I fear could become a toxic contamination of my personal relationship with my Zero.  :'(

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: App won't let me update firmware
« on: December 20, 2017, 06:35:18 PM »
You're also going to have to get to a dealer for the 600mi service, and motor controller recalibration (commissioning). Don't forget that! There is no reasonable way to do it without a shop that has the proprietary software.

Ummm, WHAT??????  This uncovers a second lie... I was told that there is no break-in service required!! Again, I don't have any way to get the bike to the dealer, and absolutely would not have purchased a vehicle that dictated impossible-to-meet requirements.

God f*&kn da*mnit!  I feel so lied to and cheated.  I'd return this thing today if I could. I don't know how I got taken for so many lies.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: App won't let me update firmware
« on: December 20, 2017, 05:03:22 AM »
Ya, I'm trying to find documentation on this. It's not in my 2017 manual, and its not on their website. In fact, the screen-caps on the app page of their website don't have the Firmware Update button that mine does (1.4.0(55)).

But I'm certain that I was told that at-home sw updates were one of the landmark features of the 2017 models. I think it was even discussed here. It truly was the key decision point I used regarding spending more (quite a bit) to get a new (6.5kWh) vs  a used (13kWh) bike.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / App won't let me update firmware
« on: December 20, 2017, 04:05:26 AM »
So I just went to update the firmware on my 2017 Zero DS, and the app says I have to take it to a dealer for the update. ????  I live out of range from the nearest Zero dealer, and the ONLY reason I purchased a new model was so that I could do the firmware updates on my own. Thats what they advertise. So now, 4 months in to my purchase, I have to take it to a dealer???   

I feel totally F*%ked by Zero. I hope I’m misunderstanding something. I don’t have any way to get it to a dealer (unless someone has successfully crammed one in the back of a VW Golf!!).  >:(

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Update on my status: I've completed the purchase of a 2017 DS from my local dealer. Simultaneously, I purchased the lowered spring from Hollywood Electric. Apparently, they have a suspension expert that takes an OEM DS shock/spring and reworks it such that its 1.5" lower.  Thats underway now. Then it will be shipped to my dealer, who will install it for me (negotiated as part of my purchase). I live beyond range of the bike, so they will then meet me halfway for delivery. I'm hopeful it will be by the end of next week, but no details yet. In the meantime, I've written the check, had it cashed, and am now sitting quasi-patiently on my hands....

My question pertinent to this thread is, will the OEM DS kickstand still work appropriately on the bike after the lowered shock has been installed?  Should I have the dealer do something to adjust it? Do I need to buy an S/SR OEM kickstand? Something else?

Thx

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Anyone lowered their DS?
« on: June 15, 2017, 12:41:49 AM »
(I'm spinning this out into its own thread. I was going to revive an existing one linked from the ZeroManual, however the most recent thread is still over 120 days old, and the forum SW suggested starting a new thread...)

Has anyone successfully lowered their DS?  I'm working my way back and forth through the posts and the manual, however there seems to be inconsistency and uncertainty regarding outcomes.  I'm curious to hear updated thoughts and research.  Thx!

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Factory specs:

DS:
Front tire    Pirelli MT-60 100/90-19   
Rear tire   Pirelli MT-60 130/80-17
Front wheel   2.50 x 19   
Rear wheel   3.50 x 17   

S:
Front tire   Pirelli Diablo Rosso II 110/70-17
Rear tire   Pirelli Diablo Rosso II 140/70-17
Front wheel   3.00 x 17   
Rear wheel   3.50 x 17

Does the fact that the front wheel is 2 inches larger on the DS present an insurmountable challenge? Or does the fact that the rear wheels are identical neutralize that fact?

I've never understood much about suspension specs, so I don't know how to process this part.

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... the frame of the DS and S are identical..

Along these lines, what is it that makes the DS seat height 2 inches taller?  The frame is the same, the specs say the suspension is essentially the same. The seat is the same.  So why does it ride so much higher? 

(...in hopes of finding an easy point of adjustment...)

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