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Electric Motorcycle News / Re: Zero partners with Polaris
« on: September 30, 2020, 02:25:31 AM »
They did jack squat with Brammo, hopefully Zero fares better.
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Thinking about purchasing the EX.I would imagine that other than the frame and electric drivetrain, all remaining parts are commonly sourced. Alta is a small company, it would be pretty sill to design those parts in-house.
I'll be the first and only owner in the area.
Worried about repairs, spare parts and updating the bike's firmware.
My Zero do need these things from time to time. Any known issues or dealer's maintanance I should know about?
In addition, are all parts Alta specific? For example, foot pegs, sprockets and so on? Do they share these components with other brands?
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Whenever I see a huge drop in prices for new electric motorcycles, I start thinking about Brammo and Victory and then wonder what comes next.Having gone through the Brammo experience, yup this is exactly what I thought. Really rooting for Alta though, they seem to have a great product, hope there's enough of a market for it.
20. Extension of Credit for Electric Motorcycles (sec. 183 of the bill and sec. 30D of thesource: http://www.kpmg.com/US/en/IssuesAndInsights/ArticlesPublications/taxnewsflash/Documents/tnf-x-144-15.pdf
Code)
Present Law
For vehicles acquired before 2014, a 10-percent credit was available for qualifying plugin
electric motorcycles and three-wheeled vehicles.317 Qualifying two- or three-wheeled vehicles
needed to have a battery capacity of at least 2.5 kilowatt-hours, be manufactured primarily for
use on public streets, roads, and highways, and be capable of achieving speeds of at least 45
miles per hours. The maximum credit for any qualifying vehicle was $2,500.
Explanation of Provision
The provision reauthorizes the credit for electric motorcycles acquired in 2015 and 2016
(but not 2014). The credit for electric three-wheeled vehicles is not extended.
Effective Date
The provision is effective for vehicles acquired after December 31, 2014.
So only purchases made in 2015 are eligible ? I purchased mine in 2014, just two months after the expiration of the previous tax credit. And looks like it won't be retroactive for the 2014 purchases.I asked this upthread and apparently it is indeed retroactive, just have to file an amended return. If anyone has link to the actual wording in the bill, it'd be pretty straightforward to figure out.
SEC. 183. EXTENSION OF CREDIT FOR 2-WHEELED PLUG-INSource: http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20151214/121515.250_xml.pdf
16 ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
(a) IN GENERAL.—Section 30D(g)(3)(E) is amended
18 by striking ‘‘acquired’’ and all that follows and inserting
19 the following: ‘‘acquired—
20 ‘‘(i) after December 31, 2011, and be-
21 fore January 1, 2014, or
22 ‘‘(ii) in the case of a vehicle that has
23 2 wheels, after December 31, 2014, and
24 before January 1, 2017.’’.
(b) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by
2 this section shall apply to vehicles acquired after Decem-
3 ber 31, 2014.
Not sure I follow. See my earlier post. Highways are range killers, city will get you 70-80 miles pretty comfortably, everything else is somewhere inbetween. When I towed it down to the Smokies and rode it hard in the twisties, I could exect about 50 miles realistically.So when people ask what is the range of your Empulse you say "40 miles" without specifying speed or any other factor?I always say it depends and explain it. Victory should do the same thing, especially considering they're selling the damn thing.
What do you explain?
I don't ride an Empulse so all I'm really looking for are some ballpark numbers from Empulse owners. I can estimate using the efficiencies I get on my Zero, but would rather talk with them about results from people who ride that bike.
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So when people ask what is the range of your Empulse you say "40 miles" without specifying speed or any other factor?I always say it depends and explain it. Victory should do the same thing, especially considering they're selling the damn thing.
Richard you may have found a glitch in the system!! But even so, an audit now wouldn't matter anyway because it passed. I'm on the board of the Electric Auto Association and talk to Jay Friedland from Plug in America often and unless I bumped my head this morning, I'm pretty sure for the past 2 years there hasn't been a federal electric motorcycle tax credit. But they were working on it, and got it! So this is great news! I haven't had the monthly board call yet, so this is the first I heard about it!! Thanks ctrlburn!Just to clarify, if you purchased your bike in 2014, do you still qualify for the credit? I'm seeing 2015 and 2016. And I know the credit expired in 2013, so I'm just really hoping the 2014 buyers didn't fall into some kind of EV credit donut hole.
Manitou, what range are you looking for?Not sure I agree with that. Spec for spec, Brammo's nominal capacity is 9.3 kwh, while Zero's is 11.4. Price for the Zero S is $14k, while Zero SR is $16k. The J1772 Charge Tank is $2k extra. Meanwhile the Brammo has the fast charger built in, nicer components and the leftovers are selling for $12k. Now if we're comparing to the $20k Victory Empulse, then I'd have to give the nod to Zero, on price alone.
I reliably get 50 highway miles (40-65mph) on a charge on my 2013 Empulse R. The Victory Empulse TT should give you more range.
The just-announced 2016 Zeros with the J1772 Charge Tank (not available until Spring 2016), 13 kWh battery (the Empulse has 9 kWh), and claimed >90 highway miles of range at about the same price seems to be the better deal now.
Want to make an offer on my 2013 Empulse R EBoz Limited Edition?