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My belt (SR 2015) only makes a sound like that when t is wet. In dry conditions it does not sound like that/

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Report on STS turn signal control
« on: December 14, 2020, 02:30:55 AM »
I bought this one (and the brake light blinker) as well and need to install it on my 2015 SR. Hope the colors are the same so that I can use your very helpful description.

Thanks for sharing!

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I had the exact same thing (2015 SR).

After it had been at the dealers for a "commissioning" it stopped.

For those who do not understand what is meant here, it is as if the injection of the gas (in an ICE bike) does not work properly and the engine gets gas intermittently.

The thing that I do not understand is why it only happens after a reboot (cold start) for a few meters and then it disappears until the next cold start.

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Had míne replaced by a local dealer and paid more or less the same price as what was stated on the AF1racing website. Had to pay for labor and hauling the bike as well of course.
I think it is easy to do yourself.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Two years ago today
« on: October 21, 2020, 02:29:39 AM »
Still enjoying the "magic carpet' ride?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Range
« on: June 24, 2020, 03:32:43 PM »
For me it makes sense that the SR has a better range than the SR/F(S).

The battery capacity is the same, but the SR is much lighter and less powerful. The latter might be compensated on the /F(S) by a wee bit better efficiency of the engine and other components, but then the end result is still in favor of the SR.

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A Mennekes to Shuko in combination with the stock charge cable works perfect. That is how I used to charge at charge stations. The only thing with that is that it is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. That is a weird feeling, because on a charge station my brain expects to charge faster than on a household outlet. It however is the charger that is the limiting factor, but my brain just refuses to register that :-).

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I had the exact same struggle and considered the exact same things.

I really struggled with the idea to give up my little "tank" storage space. I have my disk locks, tire emergency repair kit, wet tissues etc. in there. Yes I can get a top case, but that destroys the great looks of my SR and I am also a leg swinger (when getting on the bike, I swing my leg over the end of the seat, like getting on a horse) which is impacted by a case.

I also find the charge tank-upgrade to not really be powerful enough, but I much liked the idea of having a Zero supported and dealer installed solution instead of something without dealer support and warranty (like Diginow type of solutions).

The SR/F crossed my mind, but after giving that one a spin, I did not feel it would be a significant enough upgrade for the rather steep investment (wanted minimum 6KW charging capacity). I actually like the handling of my SR a bit better, but I would love the new things that the SR/F brings to the table (i.e. new dash and remote updates). The fact that it does not (yet?) have DC charge options however feels to me like upgrading to something that is already out of date.

I considered an Energica for it's DC charging possibility, but I love all the Zero things like no fluids and no chain to much to give up on that.  Also in my mind Energica's are expensive, there are far less dealers and the ones which are there are brand new and have no experience with motorbikes and (in my case) are to far from my home which is inconvenient for service (which Energica's need more than Zero's) and Energica's weight much more than the Zeros.
It is not a done deal in my head yet and still Energica (especially the Ego) crosses my mind regularly when thinking of a possible next bike.

So I decided to go for a Diginow 9.9Kw in a belly ban set-up. It saves my precious storage space, does not really change the looks of the bike (the pan is mostly similar to the original) and provides a LOT of charging power.
It is not a perfect choice; there is no company supporting it, it is crazy expensive, you need to install it yourself and pray it will just work and if it does work, pray it will continue to do so.

I got the install done, but I took my time to really understand upfront how everything worked, what is what and how it should be installed, where the cables should be routed to and through etc.. It took me weeks of thinking, considering and asking others questions and even then while installing I had to change my plans a few times.

Now it is on the bike, but not yet nicely finished; the inlet (plug) is still ty-rapped to the bike and the switches are not yet in their final place.
Why? 1. I just finished the first install two weeks ago and I am still testing. 2. While testing I encountered some challenges that I want to fix first before I finish up everything nicely.

I have a NEW version 3 set which does not connect to the bike's CANBAN, which should be a good thing, because that was considered to be creating problems with the 2.5 version, but it also does not have bluetooth and does not use the charging stations' pilot signal.
This means that some charging stations reject to charge and that home chargers that are set to i.e. charge at 10Amps (i.e. because there are other devices connected to the same power group) will error out and I have not option to do something about that.

Morgan, one of the Diginow owners has been super helpful on my Diginow journey. He has been answering all my questions and also because of that I have learned a lot about EV charging.
Diginow has also offered to build a brain/controller box V3.1 which does follow the charge stations pilot signal. That is great and would probably make this set-up exactly what I hoped for it to be, but my mind is stuck on the fact that I payed BIG $$$$ for something that works great, but not in all circumstances and in order to fix that I again have to cough up $$.
Also the fact that it is again not sure that it will work (Diginow is in the US) keeps me from going that direction, at least for now. I am also talking to someone else who might have an alternative that sounds really great that I want to explore first.

For all the charge stations at which it does work (which is the majority at the moment), it is really great and I just love seeing my Zero charging at 9KW+ rates and have charge times way below 1.5 hours instead of above 8 hours.

One thing that is a bit of a challenge is the fact that with fast charging, fat cables and plugs come along. Where the stock charge cable and a charge station adapter (mennekes to shuko) did fit in my "tank" storage space, the new cable does not at all........

For me there is no perfect solution at the moment, but (when I fix the final hurdle) the Diginow set-up comes closest I think, also considering the fact that when I ride and charge I rather do that at places which typically have AC charge stations, where the DC charge stations are mostly at the highways that I prefer to avoid as much as possible. That could change when changing my riding habits, i.e. I have been using the bike for commuting for a while and that was mostly highways........

The perfect solution for me would probably be an SR/F type of bike that is better protected against water, has gone on a diet but would remain to have a 12Kw AC combined with a DC fast charge option (more than 1C) and still have space left somewhere on the bike for a charge cable, two locks, some tissues and a tire repair kit.....



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Hey rogerpiano,
for europe, the best solution is the Otten charger by Lennart Otten (Germany). But you have to consider that it uses most of the space in your tank compartment. On the plus side you‘ll get 7.9kW L2 Charging for a reasonable price. Its not hard to install (just did it myself on my 2016 SR) and you‘ll get a pictured install guide from Lennart. A bit of basic electronic knowledge and the understanding of not to give orange cables a lick should get you there.

After my onboard charger died I installed the Otten charger and I‘m VERY satisfied with it.

I have been trying to find information on this set-up, but have failed so far. Do you have a link, pictures or something alike?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Question about Diginow
« on: June 11, 2020, 07:35:42 PM »
A lot of people put their chargers in a top or side box on the back of their bike. You then do not need the belly pan.

This set-up also provides you with a nice place for the Inlets (the socket where you plug your charge cable in) and a handy place to store your charge cables when driving. In this set-up you most probably need a fan to cool the charger(s). With the belly pan that is not needed because the pan acts like a heatsink.

If you want to continue using the stock charger, which I understand you would want to, then you could try to get yourself a V2 or V3 version of the brainbox, these do not have/need a CANBUS connection to the bike. A positive side of maintaining the stock charger is that you can use that one to put the bike in charge mode. Without the stock charger you either need a V2.5 brainbox or a special AUX Anderson set-up with a resistor and a switch to put the bike in charge mode.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Question about Diginow
« on: June 10, 2020, 08:04:58 PM »
Which version of the Diginow super charger are you considering?

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General Discussion / Re: Electric Motorcycle Owners Map
« on: June 04, 2020, 01:47:10 AM »
Rotterdam Netherlands now has a nice additional Zero SR pin with email address; feel free to contact me for a ride, a chat, questions, etc.

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That is where the fast DC charging port was installed on Zero, before they had to give up on them, because the DC fast charging stations are not going low enough in the voltage to match the Zero battery voltage  (I believe that they're supposed to go as low as 50V, but they're not).
So it's the best place to install a charging port, but, the new models  side plastics are covering that spot, so they (the plastic covers) have to be cut.



From this picture it is clear that there is a place "reserved" for an inlet plug. The Mennekes inlet plug is however slightly larger than the inlet plug that is supposed to go here, that is probably because it was an US type of inlet plug. On the battery cover there are two plastic "plugs" that cover the holes where the bolts for the inlet were supposed to go (one is visible in the picture) and on the "inside" of the frame there are two holes for bolts.

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I have a 2015 SR with a 13KwH battery and I get around 120-130 km (75-80 miles) range on the highway (@ ~100km/h (63m/h)).

When I get head wind, then the range goes down significantly.


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I'm considering on the other side of the frame in your picture.(on the right side of the picture) It's a more open space so i can fit all 3 components there.
Would prefer not to use the switch location you've pictured as others have mentioned it's right next to their leg when riding.
Putting it further back would also mean it would be more exposed to water, so I'm counting on help from my works mechanical department to come up with smart ideas.

What do you mean with all 3 components? The Mennekes socket and the two on/off switches?

The place where one can put a USB port is also a nice place for the switches. I am not sure if both would fit there however. It would mean that the wires to the switches will have to be extended. Maybe somewhere in on the front side of the "tank" would be a good place as well.
Finding a place for the Mennekes is the biggest challenge for me.

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