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silverado:
Hello to everyone who read this lines,

Long story short:

I have some experience in motorbikes, mostly motocross and supermoto, but i have near to zero experience in electric motorbikes. I wonder if somebody had set up an electric engine in the front wheel of a bike with an engine, to make it hybrid and use the front wheel electric engine when you want combined with the internal combustion engine.

Where should i start? Could someone help me out to find the first things lis that i have to know and where to find examples of who has done it before?

DonTom:

--- Quote from: silverado on June 11, 2019, 06:55:34 AM ---Hello to everyone who read this lines,

Long story short:

I have some experience in motorbikes, mostly motocross and supermoto, but i have near to zero experience in electric motorbikes. I wonder if somebody had set up an electric engine in the front wheel of a bike with an engine, to make it hybrid and use the front wheel electric engine when you want combined with the internal combustion engine.

Where should i start? Could someone help me out to find the first things lis that i have to know and where to find examples of who has done it before?
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Maybe you can complete the SilentHawk Motorcycle for the US military.

Good luck!

-Don-  Auburn, CA

BrianTRice@gmail.com:
Hybrid power trains for motorcycles are still in R & D territory.

The SilentHawk project is the closest to production I’m aware of. Traditional motorcycle manufacturers often patent designs with hybrid elements, but nothing has reached the light of day.

A series hybrid is probably best, with the combustion process feeding the electrical system (battery and motor), but the right power to weight ratio and size are a challenge, stacking it on top of a battery and motor and controller. Nothing off the shelf is going to fit that niche for most designs.

Ayebah:
Do scooters count?  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2010/07/piaggio-mp3-hybrid-300ie/amp

It’s not dual wheel drive though

Bmw had a the same idea
https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/bmw-two-wheel-drive-hybrid-motorcycle-concept-patent/

BrianTRice@gmail.com:

--- Quote from: Ayebah on September 21, 2019, 03:41:10 AM ---Do scooters count?  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2010/07/piaggio-mp3-hybrid-300ie/amp

It’s not dual wheel drive though

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That’s from 9 years ago when the electric powertrain would have been awful. It might not have been a good design, unfortunately. The “Prius of motorcycles” is probably not attractive even at scooter power expectations.

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