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[princec]

Down to Davant Bikes again today to pick up the SR/F after having the chargers fiddled with once again (short version: Zero chap claimed to have replaced them both, but actually, didn't, and then fled ). While I was there I had a go on the DSR/X demonstrator, attractively liveried in Avocado Toilet Suite. Seriously Zero. Anyway, at least you don't have to look too much at the colour while you're riding it.

I went out for about an hour, covering about 35 miles perhaps, using about 25% of the battery, with a mix of roads between 20-70mph but no sustained motorway travel, mostly around town. So I guess that means a usefully increased range over my 14.4 SR/F, extrapolating to about 120 miles or so (I get ~100 on the SR/F in the same sort of riding). Unsurprisingly the 20% increase in range tallies almost exactly with the 20% increase in battery capacity. Why this sort of reasoning seems so difficult for other people to grasp is beyond me. Anyhoo...

Size and weight wise, feels rather like a GS Adventure. It ain't light but the weight is pretty low. It is surprisingly large. The seat is surprisingly low. The demo bike had an official large screen fitted but it simply generated big turbulent noise no matter what height I set it at. The hand adjuster is good and easy to operate, even on the move.

It's got the nice new dash that I got fitted under warranty to my SR/F, so that's nice. This one was fitted with aux lights, a metal topbox, and crashbars too. I think the handguards are standard, not sure, but all standard fare and well made. Fit and finish is very good, much better than the original crop of SR/Fs. Same crappy switchgear though.

The seat and ride is plush - really nice, vastly more comfy than the SR/F and the suspension seems to waft over bumps brilliantly unlike the SR/F which batters you. You can feel that it's more gangly than the dense and compact SR/F, and it rocks on its suspension more when you brake. The rear brake is a bit better than the risible effort on the SR/F. It rides a lot quieter than my bike too - less weird noises from the belt, more consistent spaceship sorts of sounds, and quieter. I liked it.

Speed wise, sport mode was oddly muted compared to my bike. My SR/F is genuinely scary in sport mode over 30mph - it actually makes me swear and back off. Not so the DSR/X, which whizzed about well enough, but felt muted, almost like street mode on the SR/F. It's still properly quick mind, just not scarily quick.

Didn't get to test headlight or pillion accommodation of course and I imagine the heated grips are just as good as mine.

All in all... I'd say yes. It's something I'd buy if I was looking right now and it was under £20k and had a charge tank in it. Unfortunately I want to get another 30k miles on the SR/F, and it costs £25k or something daft like that, and there are no charge tanks available yet

I'll write to Santa.

Cas

[Zelidar]

...All in all... I'd say yes. It's something I'd buy if I was looking right now and it was under £20k and had a charge tank in it. Unfortunately I want to get another 30k miles on the SR/F, and it costs £25k or something daft like that, and there are no charge tanks available yet

I'll write to Santa.

From a couple of trials I've done as well, I would add three things:

• The additional 12 volt power supply cigarette lighter socket on the front is nice. On my SR/F I had to route a cable from the SAE connector going behind the tank cover, since the built-in USB sockets are not powerful enough for my power-hungry smartphone, especially because of its brightness performance (S23 Ultra).
• My girlfriend told me that the passenger seat is a significant improvement from the SR/F.
  
• The luggage rack is significantly larger, thus really usable.
  
• The kickstand base plate is also significantly larger.
• The more upright sitting position will take me some getting used to.

Overall I liked it, and thus I also have to write to Santa  .

[Specter]

As you get older and creakier, you will come to appreciate a more upright riding position 

Aaron

[LeverCommaJohn]

As you get older and creakier, you will come to appreciate a more upright riding position 

Aaron

Amen to that

[princec]

Especially coming as I did from about 15 years of riding the ubiquitous GS in its various guises. One wonders what would happen if BMW suddenly have an epiphany on that front.

Cas

[nekodan]

I'm really enjoying my DSR/X. I had a 2016 SR and the changes are pretty substantial. Definitely a larger, more solid ride. Love the dashboard. And the fact you can quick charge with a J1772 plug. My dealer (San Jose BMW) says there's a tall (1" higher) seat available for us tall guys (6'4"). I also ordered the top case.

[DonTom]

I'm really enjoying my DSR/X. I had a 2016 SR and the changes are pretty substantial. Definitely a larger, more solid ride. Love the dashboard. And the fact you can quick charge with a J1772 plug. My dealer (San Jose BMW) says there's a tall (1" higher) seat available for us tall guys (6'4"). I also ordered the top case.

A few questions I have about the DSR/X:


1. Does it have a reverse?
2. Can hard sidebags be added?
3. Does it charge at 6KW with a J-1772?
4. Does it have a centerstand?


-Don-  Auburn, CA

[princec]

Yes to all.

Cas

[DonTom]

Yes to all.

Cas

Thanks. I am tempted to trade some of my gas bikes in. I want to have mostly electric bikes these days.


-Don-  Auburn, CA

[Oilcan]

I just purchased a new DSR/X yesterday. The $4,500 Discount from Zero was too good to pass up. Got it for $19,500. Total out the door. Took it for a backroad rip today and did 115 miles when I pulled into the house with 5 miles to spare. It rides and handles great.

[princec]

That's a good price for one I would say. It's a genuinely good bike.

Cas

[DonTom]

I just purchased a new DSR/X yesterday. The $4,500 Discount from Zero was too good to pass up. Got it for $19,500. Total out the door. Took it for a backroad rip today and did 115 miles when I pulled into the house with 5 miles to spare. It rides and handles great.

Yep! I did that today. Either 0 percent interest at the normal price or a $4,500.00 INSTANT rebate if paid for by cash. I traded in my Stevio, which they gave me 6K$ for.


Here in Reno Eurocycles:


Cash Price:      $25,990.00
Trade:-                6,000.00
Net Sale:          $19,990.00
NV Sales Tax         1,682.67
Reg Fees                    28.25
Doc fees                  369.00
Sub total:          $22,069.92
Rebate:                 4,500.00
OTD price:          $17,569.92


They only had around 15% SOC on the bike. The shop has around 25 new Zeros in Stock here in Reno. I never saw so many in one shop before. I think Zero is a hot seller there.




I got a green one. I have it charging in my garage right now at 6.6 KW:


-Don-  Reno, NV

[TheRan]

I just purchased a new DSR/X yesterday. The $4,500 Discount from Zero was too good to pass up. Got it for $19,500. Total out the door. Took it for a backroad rip today and did 115 miles when I pulled into the house with 5 miles to spare. It rides and handles great.

Yep! I did that today. Either 0 percent interest at the normal price or a $4,500.00 INSTANT rebate if paid for by cash. I traded in my Stevio, which they gave me 6K$ for.


Here in Reno Eurocycles:


Cash Price:      $25,990.00
Trade:-                6,000.00
Net Sale:          $19,990.00
NV Sales Tax         1,682.67
Reg Fees                    28.25
Doc fees                  369.00
Sub total:          $22,069.92
Rebate:                 4,500.00
OTD price:          $17,569.92


They only had around 15% SOC on the bike. The shop has around 25 new Zeros in Stock here in Reno. I never saw so many in one shop before. I think Zero is a hot seller there.




I got a green one. I have it charging in my garage right now at 6.6 KW:


-Don-  Reno, NV

I do wonder, why bother with a DSR/X when you already have an Experia? Less performance, less range, slower charging, more likely to have some sort of software fault, probably worse dealer support.

[Specter]

It gives you something to talk about !!

Aaron

[DonTom]

I do wonder, why bother with a DSR/X when you already have an Experia? Less performance, less range, slower charging, more likely to have some sort of software fault, probably worse dealer support.

Faster charging when in the Reno area where there are J-plugs all over (and most are free) that can handle 7KW. Neither of my Energicas are here in Reno right now. They are both at my Auburn house. Energica can only do 3 KW on AC.


I think Euro Cycles can do a good job on Zeros. They must sell a lot of them.  They must have around 25 Zeros in stock here in Reno, the most I ever saw in any shop. They had at least two Zero DSR/X I saw one white and one green and decided on the green.


Many places only have AC charging. Such as Fallon, MiddleGate, Virginia City for a few examples for herein NV. And you can only find AC charging in places such as Downyville, Markleeville, North San Juan, in CA and countless other places. The Energicas would be perfect if they could squeeze a 6 KW AC charger in there.


New bikes are a hassle in NV. I must go to the NV DMV by appointment to register this thing. But of course, they have free J-1772 stations in the parking lot there also.


CA DMV does this licensing stuff of new vehicles a MUCH better way than here in NV.


I am not a speed freak. I have not even tried out the Sport mode in my Experia.


Anyway, I am trying to have less ICE bikes and more electric as I ride electric the most.


-Don-  Reno, NV