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RNM

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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #30 on: April 06, 2015, 06:31:38 PM »

Nuts n Volts,
Do you a build thread of your bike?

Not on this forum, but I do have one over on El Moto.  Dont keep it super up to date sadly
Link please [emoji3]
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Nuts n Volts

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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #31 on: April 06, 2015, 06:36:24 PM »

Nuts n Volts,
Do you a build thread of your bike?

Not on this forum, but I do have one over on El Moto.  Dont keep it super up to date sadly
Link please [emoji3]

Sorry, I copied the link, but had a brain fart.  http://elmoto.net/tell-us-about-your-project/1906-nutshock-v2-0-electric-r6-build-3.html?highlight=nutshock+2.0
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alexanderfoti

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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2016, 08:44:22 PM »

Great thread!

Sorry to drag an old thread up.

Can the sevcon use ANY 0-5v input for this (as long as its driven from the sevcon itself?) Is there any reason why I cant run a cable to a variable resistor from a lever or modify a lever to move a pot directly?
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Burton

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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2016, 05:38:21 PM »

Great thread!

Sorry to drag an old thread up.

Can the sevcon use ANY 0-5v input for this (as long as its driven from the sevcon itself?) Is there any reason why I cant run a cable to a variable resistor from a lever or modify a lever to move a pot directly?

Yeah you can have a pot hooked up to the controller for this purpose then create a method of moving the pot switch. In some ways this is superior to the method I am using in that it will likely last longer without issues.

See this example:
http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=2722.msg12128#msg12128

You could also do a pressure switch which takes a digital signal and converts it to analog.

I chose the transducer method because of how easy it would be to set up and because it would simulate a pressure switch without needing added circuits to make it happen.

It isn't without issues though and I have had a transducer fail in the past as well as "stick" when it gets colder. I might suggest putting a switch inline with any device you attach in case you are on a trip and really need to disable it for any reason.
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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2016, 06:02:44 PM »

Thanks!

Yes, the reason I ask is that I have built something similar for my diesel bike project.

The lever on the governor is very hard to move, so takes a lot of effort. I drive the lever on the governor with a servo motor, and drive the servo with a controller.

The controller takes input from the throttle via a cable that moves a linear pot. After a while it has been reliable and required very few tweaks, just wondered if I could do that same with the regen lever!

I am now trying to find the sevon DVT software thats compatible with the 1.6 dongle. Lots of places say its easy to get, but I have only been able to find the 2.0 version. Trying to avoid buying a 1.6 dongle second hand, only to find out I am unable to get the software :)

With the DVT software, do I need to load a base configuration, or can it pull the configuration down from the sevcon?
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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2016, 06:12:57 PM »

With the DVT software, do I need to load a base configuration, or can it pull the configuration down from the sevcon?

Look for the manual thunderstruck puts out and you will see the first thing it tells you to do is download your current configuration files.

Don't skip this step!
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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #36 on: July 18, 2016, 06:20:23 PM »

With the DVT software, do I need to load a base configuration, or can it pull the configuration down from the sevcon?

Look for the manual thunderstruck puts out and you will see the first thing it tells you to do is download your current configuration files.

Don't skip this step!

Many thanks!

So, save the DCF before doing anything. Gotcha

(assume we are talking about this document?)

http://www.thunderstruck-ev.com/images/DVT%20Customer%20Manual.pdf

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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2016, 06:25:13 PM »

Yup that is the one. It is a good precursor to learning to use the software.

If you get errors backing up the config file then try to install another version of DVT (There are several out there) ... if none work you would need to seek out someone with a proper EDS library file to use as a base for your bike. (Not sure if this varies per model year or if it is universal)
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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2021, 01:56:29 AM »

I made my own version of a regen brake lever.
I used the information in this thread, which was very helpful. Since EVtricity is not active anymore, and the (great!) video by Burton is not fully complete, I decided to make a how-to video.
Hopefully it's complete and helps the next guy trying to do this:)

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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2021, 02:50:09 AM »

Siccc!
Way to be thorough in the expo, too — better name that mod (DK’s regen, or some such..)
« Last Edit: June 04, 2021, 02:53:52 AM by JeremyConnors »
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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2021, 06:33:42 PM »

Thanks;) naah I used too much good info from other people to call it mine:D
What do you mean with being thorough in the expo?;)

Best regards !
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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2021, 08:57:02 PM »

^short for explanation — I *mean*, thanks for providing all that specific programming-data in the vid, which makes for a damn good how-to, from beginning to end. You’re the man. 👍
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Chain conversion
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Renthal fat bars
Domino quick throttle
Acerbis lighting, front and rear
“MX” mud guard
2014 bodywork
Perelli tires

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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2021, 10:08:00 PM »

Ah thanks a lot man!
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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2021, 12:52:33 PM »

Cool vid! It is verry clear :D
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Re: How to make a powerful regen lever for your Zero
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2021, 06:14:56 PM »

thanks, I can't look at it right now but it's something I would really like to do.

maybe a stupid question, but can you brick the bike while messing with the CAN changes ?
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