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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: PL3 on September 12, 2018, 03:28:38 AM

Title: GSA
Post by: PL3 on September 12, 2018, 03:28:38 AM
http://blog.motorcycle.com/2018/09/11/electric/zero-motorcycles-first-motorcycle-brand-listed-general-services-administration/
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: Richard230 on September 12, 2018, 04:04:48 AM
That is a good thing. But will Trump allow government agencies purchase an electric motorcycle, especially if he finds out that it uses Chinese-made components?  ::)

Speaking of that sort of thing: I wonder what the latest tariff plan is going to do to Zero's manufacturing costs and the MSRP of their motorcycles?  Probably nothing good.  :(
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: BamBam on September 12, 2018, 09:34:06 PM
It would be interesting to see the GSA pricing schedule.  Perhaps someone with buying access could look this up.
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: nevetsyad on September 13, 2018, 05:36:46 AM
GSA prices are public. Here's the only Zero I was able to find:

https://www.gsaadvantage.gov/advantage/catalog/product_detail.do?gsin=11000063923469
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: Richard230 on September 13, 2018, 06:22:38 AM
GSA prices are public. Here's the only Zero I was able to find:

https://www.gsaadvantage.gov/advantage/catalog/product_detail.do?gsin=11000063923469

1,200 pounds weight?   :o
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: caza on September 13, 2018, 10:38:53 AM
That weight seems impossible. Maybe the shipping weight with the crate and some extra batteries?
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: Richard230 on September 13, 2018, 07:21:46 PM
That weight seems impossible. Maybe the shipping weight with the crate and some extra batteries?

Maybe the shipping box also includes one of these. After all it is an "authority" vehicle.  ;D
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: DonTom on September 13, 2018, 08:35:49 PM
GSA prices are public. Here's the only Zero I was able to find:

https://www.gsaadvantage.gov/advantage/catalog/product_detail.do?gsin=11000063923469
1,200 lbs?

-Don-
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: nevetsyad on September 13, 2018, 08:38:43 PM
That weight seems impossible. Maybe the shipping weight with the crate and some extra batteries?

That's the shipping weight, the item weight your agency will have to pay to ship/able to receive. Crate and all accessories, correct.
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: Duncan Zero on September 13, 2018, 09:51:57 PM
This is very good for Zero's health as a company.  I am very glad to see this work come to realization.
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: Rugby4life on September 14, 2018, 02:26:43 AM
That weight seems impossible. Maybe the shipping weight with the crate and some extra batteries?

Maybe the shipping box also includes one of these. After all it is an "authority" vehicle.  ;D

At least the recoilless rifle would help explain the $18k price for an FX with a blue light.
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: KrazyEd on September 14, 2018, 03:03:07 AM
If I recall, the MX / FX came into being because the government required a 60 second from empty to full charge time.
The price and weight could be reflected in an extra set of batteries and cabling to charge off board.
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: ugfish on September 15, 2018, 12:48:28 AM
Here is the link for the DSR (trigger warning on the price):

https://www.gsaadvantage.gov/advantage/catalog/product_detail.do?gsin=11000063923464
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: nevetsyad on September 15, 2018, 03:07:17 AM
Have to love that government "discount"!
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: Doug S on September 15, 2018, 03:29:28 AM
The DSR IS fully equipped, including the rack and trunk, saddlebags and mounts, crash bars, fairing, hand guards....are any of the accessories Zero offers NOT on this bike? It may even have a charge tank or power tank, and/or fast charger mounted in the trunk or a saddlebag. It may also have special equipment like radios and such, though I don't see any extra lighting mounted to the crash bars. All told, including labor for installation of all that stuff, crating, shipping and a reasonable profit for the supplier, and I don't think the price is that far out of whack. All that crap adds up.

Can anybody figure out what that thing is that appears to be suspended above the "gas tank"?
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: nevetsyad on September 15, 2018, 03:32:36 AM
It IS fully equipped, including the rack and trunk, saddlebags and mounts, crash bars, fairing, hand guards....are any of the accessories Zero offers NOT on this bike? It may even have a charge tank or power tank, and/or fast charger mounted in the trunk or a saddlebag. It may also have special equipment like radios and such, though I don't see any extra lighting mounted to the crash bars. All told, including labor for installation of all that stuff, crating, shipping and a reasonable profit for the supplier, and I don't think the price is that far out of whack. All that crap adds up.

Interesting take - how does the FX becomes $18,407.51? 8 Grand worth of accessories?
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: ashnazg on September 15, 2018, 03:41:56 AM
It's a DSR, not an FX.

The thing on the tank looks to me like a CB radio.
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: nevetsyad on September 15, 2018, 03:42:58 AM
Link earlier in the thread is for an FX with $8,000 of accessories.

It's a DSR, not an FX.

The thing on the tank looks to me like a CB radio.
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: ashnazg on September 15, 2018, 03:43:51 AM
Heh, yep... just saw that  8)
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: Doug S on September 15, 2018, 06:14:00 AM
Alright, let's do the FX. I'm seeing a non-standard fairing, handguards, rack, top box (w/ radio/gps/other equipment in it?), I'm sure the "approved" blue light isn't cheap, and as someone mentioned, very possibly extra battery packs and/or charger(s).

Let's put it this way. How much would YOU charge to purchase, set up and deliver an FX like that? It's gotta be worth your time and energy, doesn't it?
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: Doug S on September 15, 2018, 06:17:55 AM
Oops, forgot the crash bars. I'd bet those alone are $600 or more just to purchase, not including installation cost.
Title: Re: GSA
Post by: nevetsyad on September 15, 2018, 06:38:56 AM
The radios and equipment will be different for every agency. It’s unlikely any communication hardware will ship with it. The crash guards are $175 everywhere I look. $250 for DSR. (Example: https://www.af1racing.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=90911&sku=ZM10-08028&description=Zero+MC%27s+Crash+Bars+for+%2714%2D%2717+FX%2FS+%2D+ZM10%2D08028)

There’s no mention of extra battery. Wow, FXP is 303lbs. https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/fleet/police/specs.php

I’ll have my procurement guy reach out and see what the extra ~1,000 pounds is for in shipping. Maybe it’s a 4 pack and a great discounted price? Lol