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LDG

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2013 ds no start
« on: November 13, 2019, 06:31:29 AM »

Fully charged but when I bring up the kickstand it won't go. Still flashes like kill switch is engaged. I have turned on/off multiple times, kickstand up/down, flicked kill switch, tried sport/eco modes, moved bike back and forth, applied brakes.....I'm running out of ideas.

It did this a week ago right after I took it off charger but when I came back later it was fine. Chargers great so I'm at a loss.

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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2019, 06:37:20 AM »

Use the mobile app to get the logs, and email them to yourself, then upload them for a text output:
https://home.hasslers.net/zerologparser/log_parser.php

The logs should tell you what the MBB is thinking.

(For those who don't know, the 2013 dash doesn't show error codes. Also it doesn't have the Calex charger.)
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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2019, 11:12:48 AM »

Yes do what Brian said.
Just to test my own knowledge I'm going to guess it's your kickstand switch that's either loose or has gone bad.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2019, 09:53:32 PM by NEW2elec »
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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2019, 11:42:24 AM »

Yes do what Brian said.
Just to test my own knowledge I'm going to guess it's your kickstand switch that either loose or has gone bad.
That's what I was thinking also.

Doesn't the sidestand switch use light? If that's the case, perhaps the sidestand only needs cleaning where the light is detected.

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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2019, 08:42:23 PM »

The side-stand safety interlock switches have such a bad reputation on Royal Enfield motorcycles that most owners remove and bypass them shortly after the bike dies during their first long ride.   ::)

However, I will admit that I have never had that problem on any of my Zero's.  :)
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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2019, 09:10:24 PM »

The side-stand safety interlock switches have such a bad reputation on Royal Enfield motorcycles that most owners remove and bypass them shortly after the bike dies during their first long ride.   ::)

However, I will admit that I have never had that problem on any of my Zero's.  :)
I bypassed the sidestand switch on my 1984 Venture before it gave me any problems because I knew it gave others problems.

The bike mentioned here is a DS. That could mean it sees  more dirt than  your S, and if the SSS does work with light, it could be that simple of a problem.

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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2019, 01:32:47 AM »

Thanks for the knowledge folks. I'll try stuff out tonight and give an update later
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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2019, 06:10:04 AM »

> Doesn't the sidestand switch use light? If that's the case, perhaps the sidestand only needs cleaning where the light is detected.

It's magnetic.  There's a magnet in the stand, and hall effect or reed switch wired up.  See the wiring diagrams as well:

https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Schematic

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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2019, 02:44:49 AM »

UPDATE

So of course last night I went down and there was no problem with the power....

On that note can anyone explain exactly where the magnet should go on the stand in case this happens again?
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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2019, 04:06:49 AM »

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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2019, 04:54:28 AM »

I don't have a bike I can go check for this, but basically the magnet needs to go into a little recessed hole on the inside facing the frame/swingarm pivot area. You'll see the sensor face outward.

https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Unofficial_Service_Manual#Kickstand_Switch
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Re: 2013 ds no start
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2019, 06:11:38 AM »

I will try this!! Thanks
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