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Title: [Solved] Fan issue ?
Post by: grandpa on October 05, 2017, 05:01:12 PM
Since some weeks, the fan of my zero (located inside the battery block ? didnt noticed the bike have a fan before !) is continuously running at 100% of speed, during all the time the bike is keyed ON.

It generate a hearable fan sound, and also small vibration in the handlebars. Is it normal ? Due to last firmware update ?
Title: Re: Fan issue ?
Post by: DPsSRnSD on October 05, 2017, 09:17:40 PM
Do you have any error codes or indicator lights that are abnormal too, like ABS?
Title: Re: Fan issue ?
Post by: grandpa on October 05, 2017, 09:28:02 PM
No everything is normal (if you except the other bug i have posted here : http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=7404 but both was not occurs together. I had the fan issue, and at least 1 week after the battery % issue).

I key ON, fan goes to 100% and sound loudly. Lights goes on and off normally on the bike display. Fan stay at 100% during all my travel and stop only when i key off.
Title: Re: Fan issue ?
Post by: NEW2elec on October 05, 2017, 09:38:04 PM
Umm there is no fan.
Title: Re: Fan issue ?
Post by: grandpa on October 05, 2017, 09:40:40 PM
I had think same for 1 year... until few weeks ago when it goes to 100% all the time...
Title: Re: Fan issue ?
Post by: DPsSRnSD on October 05, 2017, 09:57:55 PM
Did someone install an LED headlight kit as a present? Do you have a charger under the tank cover? Is someone playing a joke on you? That's all I've got for now.
Title: Re: Fan issue ?
Post by: NEW2elec on October 05, 2017, 10:00:22 PM
The battery box is sealed.  No way for air to move in or out.  I think what your hearing is the motor.
Like when you turn it on and just push it, it makes a sort of whine.
The 2016's have an IPM motor that needs to have the timing set every so often.
Unless your bike was second hand and the first owner installed a cooling fan for the chargers there is no fan.
I'd take it to the dealer since it's under warranty anyway.
Good luck.
Title: Re: Fan issue ?
Post by: grandpa on October 05, 2017, 10:02:44 PM
LED headlight ???

I just replaced my H4 main light by a led one (not by myself, but my dealer did). Is there a fan with the led light ??? Why ???

My bike is a first hand.
Title: Re: Fan issue ?
Post by: NEW2elec on October 05, 2017, 10:06:29 PM
Ok I didn't even think about an LED light.  That would be your only fan then.  If the dealer put it in let them check it out.  Those little things get hot.
Title: Re: Fan issue ?
Post by: grandpa on October 05, 2017, 10:08:37 PM
got it ! Thank you for pointing it

The glass of my headlight have been melted some times ago (dont know why, except that the glass is always very hot when the bike is ON...)

Warranty did the job and i have got a new one. I asked my dealer to replace the H4 by a led. He didnt told me than there is a f**ing fan with this light.

LED light is always cold, Is there any reason to add a fan ??? Can i disconnect it ? It is very loud and make vibration in the handlebar !
Title: Re: Fan issue ?
Post by: DPsSRnSD on October 05, 2017, 10:09:24 PM
LED headlight ???

I just replaced my H4 main light by a led one (not by myself, but my dealer did). Is there a fan with the led light ??? Why ???

My bike is a first hand.

Which brand LED? My red OPT7 has a fan at the base of the bulb. I have a love-hate relationship with the noise.
Title: Re: [Solved] Fan issue ?
Post by: DPsSRnSD on October 05, 2017, 10:15:09 PM
I replaced my headlight after there was an incident that resulted in the lens melting too. If the manufacturer put a fan on the bulb, they must have thought it was necessary for a long enough life. There are other LED bulbs you could get, though, that don't have a fan. There was an active thread about a year ago on this forum about LED headlights.
Title: Re: [Solved] Fan issue ?
Post by: Doug S on October 05, 2017, 11:13:03 PM
LED bulbs in general do run quite a bit cooler than the equivalent incandescent lamp, but they can't take anywhere near as much heat -- incandescent lamps love heat! So for a really high-output LED bulb, it's challenging to dissipate the heat and keep the LEDs themselves below their maximum temp with some safety margin. A lot of the designs do use fans just because it's easier to design that way, but there are some designs out there that manage without fans. Personally, I like the fanless designs...I don't care all that much about the noise, but why would you put 50,000-hour life LEDs in a system where they're relying on a cheap fan that probably has a much shorter life? If the blower fails, the LEDs are going to fail too.
Title: Re: [Solved] Fan issue ?
Post by: grandpa on October 05, 2017, 11:29:47 PM
i found some H4 LED lamp which dont have fan ike this (sorry, french link)

https://www.next-tech-france.com/ampoule-led-h4-3/523-ampoule-led-moto-h4-courtes-55w-sans-ventilateur-next-tech-3701107009435.html

I will see if i can replace the one mounted on my bike -_-
Title: Re: [Solved] Fan issue ?
Post by: clay.leihy on October 06, 2017, 09:34:31 AM
I really like these. Flexible copper heatsinks are very versatile.
https://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#X-Platform_Headlamp

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Title: Re: [Solved] Fan issue ?
Post by: ESokoloff on October 07, 2017, 05:29:32 AM
I really like these. Flexible copper heatsinks are very versatile.
https://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#X-Platform_Headlamp

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The following is in no way related to the product Clay is endorsing however it is listed on the link he posted.
I purchased one of these http://stores.advmonster.com/h4-r3-led-headlight/ for my 16 DSR.
Installation wasn't too bad, but it was not "plug & play".
I ended up having to fabricate a retaining disk (cut from a kitchen sink blank off/extra hole covers bottom washer).
The beam spread is not horribly bad but on high beam, it does shoot a beam up (into the trees or the neighbors 2nd story as I leave for work @ 0-Dark:30).
This extra feature kinda defeats the purpose selecting hi beam to get more light down the road (as apposed to up in the trees). 
I elected to keep it as I needed to free up power demands for aux lights and it will do for now but certainly there must be better options out there.
There is a stated adequate warranty on this product insuring your satisfaction but I caution that i had a bad experience on another product that he did not insure my satisfaction (poor quality control).

Caveat Emptor