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Tires for your Zero
« on: April 27, 2016, 12:38:56 PM »

I wanted to gather a list of tires people have used on their Zero's.

I've tried quite a few and thought it would be good to share specs and how people have worked within the constraints of the rim widths and belt drive.

To kick it off here are the tires I've tried with some measured widths and circumferences:

Front (17 x 3.0" wheel)
Bridgestone RS10 110/70 17 : width = 109mm, circ = 1835mm
Dunlop Alpha 13 110/70 17 : width = 107mm
IRC Road Winner 110/70 17 (stock)
Pirelli Diablo Rosso II 110/70 17
Pirelli Diablo Superbike 100/70 17 (slick) : width = 97mm, circ = 1805mm
Pirelli Supercorsa SC1 110/70 17 : width = 106mm
Sava MC50 Racer 110/70 17

Rear (17 x 3.5" wheel)
Bridgestone RS10 140/70 17 : width = 140mm, circ = 1930mm
Dunlop Alpha 13 140/70 17 : width = 135mm, circ = 1950mm
IRC Road Winner 140/70 17 (stock)
Pirelli Diablo Rosso II 140/70 17
Pirelli Diablo Superbike 125/70 17 (slick) : width = 121mm, circ = 1870mm
Pirelli Supercorsa SC2 140/70 17  : width = 135mm, circ = 1955mm

This is from a 2014 SR - other years and FX/DS etc model families welcome too. If you want to write a review or recommendation for any of the tires feel free.

If you've used different width wheels would love to understand how tires fit on wider (or narrower) wheels eg. 3.5" front or 4.25" rear.

Thanks
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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2016, 01:06:39 PM »

For my 2015 DS i'm using Michelin Anakee III front and backwheel in stock measurements.
Me verry happy. (Much) better on-road performance.
Better feedback en more precise steering. Also less noise.
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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2016, 07:50:50 PM »

I'm running a Metzeler M5 110/70 up front and an Metzeler M7RR 150/60 on the rear. No complaints.
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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2016, 08:27:14 PM »

FX Front wheel    (1.85 x 21)
  • Pirelli XCMH Dual Sport 80/100-21.  Knobs were 100% gone after 1,500 miles of aggressive riding (80% road, 20% dirt).

FX Rear wheel   (2.50 x 18)
  • Pirelli XCMH Dual Sport 120/100-18.  I've been really happy with these DOT approved knobbies, especially on dirt.  This rear tire is bigger than stock though, and noticeably reduces torque (harder to wheelie).  Knobs were 80% gone after 1,500 miles of aggressive riding (80% road, 20% dirt).

I will likely try these rear options in the future:
  • Pirelli MT-21 Rallycross 120/80-18 (This is the stock tire on the MMX, and should wear better with road use).
  • Pirelli XCMH Dual Sport 110/100-18  (If the MT-21 dirt performance is poor, I will revert to the XCMH, but in a size that's closer to stock.)
« Last Edit: September 26, 2017, 07:50:51 AM by acacia1731 »
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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2016, 08:36:25 PM »

I have been happy enough with the stock IRC Road Whiners, but I have a 140/70R17 Michelin Pilot Street Radial ready to go on the rear when my rear Whiner wears out at 9K miles.   ;)
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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2016, 12:20:07 AM »

I use Michelin Pilot Street Radial on my Zero S 2013. Great improvement compared to stock tires IRC: ride is smoother and they perform well even when cold and wet.
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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2016, 05:17:48 AM »

I use Michelin Pilot Street Radial on my Zero S 2014. Great improvement compared to stock tires IRC: ride is smoother and they perform well.
Expected longer mileage is supposed to be better as well.
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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2016, 03:05:54 PM »

Replaced the stock IRC 2014 fx tires with dual sport Michelein T63.
Front 21 90/90
rear 18 110/80

Off road handling wad much improved. Other candidates may be the Pirelli MT21 as mentioned before, or the more agressive Kenda 760. All road legal.

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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2016, 12:38:31 PM »

I've tried quite a few and thought it would be good to share specs and how people have worked within the constraints of the rim widths and belt drive.

Wow, well I'd be curious to hear how you compare the tires you've tried in terms of how they change the handling and turn-in characteristics of the Zero. It seems these are all sport/race tires, so mostly similar? How would you compare the Diablo Rosso II to the DOT race tires? Do you ride mostly on the track?

I think I am about to replace my rear tire again and try a continental 150/70-17 Road Attack 2. Currently running a Shinko Podium 006 140/60-17 (yes, 60 series). The point was to lower the rear, which it does. However, the footpegs scrape easier. It is actually a decent street tire, very high silica compound and big side channels so I imagine good in wet weather. I have never slipped out with this tire on the street, and it has a very neutral profile, turn-in is nice. The smaller diameter does seem to make the bike feel faster off the line.
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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2016, 04:52:40 AM »

Wow, well I'd be curious to hear how you compare the tires you've tried in terms of how they change the handling and turn-in characteristics of the Zero. It seems these are all sport/race tires, so mostly similar? How would you compare the Diablo Rosso II to the DOT race tires? Do you ride mostly on the track?
. The smaller diameter does seem to make the bike feel faster off the line.

The Supercorsas and Alpha 13s have a very tall and narrow profile and turn-in more quickly than say the RS10s which have the flattest and widest profiles of all the tyres I've tried. The RS10s are new for me and I'm really enjoying them on the street. A little wider than other 140s I'v tried and actually measure 140mm despite the narrow 3.5" rim. I had the Rosso IIs on for a while when I first got the bike and there wasn't anything memorable about them which meant they were probably OK everywhere. I did switch to the Savas and they were definitely more grippy than the Ropsso IIs on the track while they lasted ("Super Soft" compound).

The Pirelli Supercorsas and Savas are very sticky and really track tires only with great grip but poor mileage. I haven't had the chance to try the narrow Pirelli Diablo slicks yet. Am concerned whether the rear will handle the power in the first few minutes on the track and whether the front will handle the braking forces (the tires are really designed for Moto3 bikes).
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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2016, 11:35:38 PM »

I have been happy enough with the stock IRC Road Whiners, but I have a 140/70R17 Michelin Pilot Street Radial ready to go on the rear when my rear Whiner wears out at 9K miles.   ;)

I got 7,000 miles out of the original Pirelli Diablo II's, both front and rear.  Then I got the IIRC Road Winners.  2,000 miles (mostly eco riding) and the rear is finished, while the front still looks new.  The grip on the IIRC's is good but I am very disappointed with the short lifespan.  I'm considering getting the Angel GT's which only come in 150 size.  I bet it fits just fine.
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Re: Tires for your Zero
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2016, 04:18:59 AM »

I have been happy enough with the stock IRC Road Whiners, but I have a 140/70R17 Michelin Pilot Street Radial ready to go on the rear when my rear Whiner wears out at 9K miles.   ;)

I got 7,000 miles out of the original Pirelli Diablo II's, both front and rear.  Then I got the IIRC Road Winners.  2,000 miles (mostly eco riding) and the rear is finished, while the front still looks new.  The grip on the IIRC's is good but I am very disappointed with the short lifespan.  I'm considering getting the Angel GT's which only come in 150 size.  I bet it fits just fine.

10K miles now and the original Road Whiners are still hanging in there.  The rear looks to still have another thousand miles of tread left before it hits the wear bars.  ;)  But the handling is getting a little squirrelly now that the tread is kind of flattened out.
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2016, 05:08:20 AM »

I have been happy enough with the stock IRC Road Whiners, but I have a 140/70R17 Michelin Pilot Street Radial ready to go on the rear when my rear Whiner wears out at 9K miles.   ;)

I got 7,000 miles out of the original Pirelli Diablo II's, both front and rear.  Then I got the IIRC Road Winners.  2,000 miles (mostly eco riding) and the rear is finished, while the front still looks new.  The grip on the IIRC's is good but I am very disappointed with the short lifespan.  I'm considering getting the Angel GT's which only come in 150 size.  I bet it fits just fine.

10K miles now and the original Road Whiners are still hanging in there.  The rear looks to still have another thousand miles of tread left before it hits the wear bars.  ;)  But the handling is getting a little squirrelly now that the tread is kind of flattened out.

Yeah, that's why I can't believe they wore out so quickly.  Within the first 300 miles, they developed a flat spot in the middle.  Now they are all the way to the wear bars.  Not happy about it at all. 
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2016, 07:12:08 AM »

I have been happy enough with the stock IRC Road Whiners, but I have a 140/70R17 Michelin Pilot Street Radial ready to go on the rear when my rear Whiner wears out at 9K miles.   ;)

I got 7,000 miles out of the original Pirelli Diablo II's, both front and rear.  Then I got the IIRC Road Winners.  2,000 miles (mostly eco riding) and the rear is finished, while the front still looks new.  The grip on the IIRC's is good but I am very disappointed with the short lifespan.  I'm considering getting the Angel GT's which only come in 150 size.  I bet it fits just fine.

10K miles now and the original Road Whiners are still hanging in there.  The rear looks to still have another thousand miles of tread left before it hits the wear bars.  ;)  But the handling is getting a little squirrelly now that the tread is kind of flattened out.

Yeah, that's why I can't believe they wore out so quickly.  Within the first 300 miles, they developed a flat spot in the middle.  Now they are all the way to the wear bars.  Not happy about it at all.

Sounds like a manufacturing defect to me.  Maybe they didn't mix the rubber compound correctly. ???
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2016, 08:53:03 AM »

I have been happy enough with the stock IRC Road Whiners, but I have a 140/70R17 Michelin Pilot Street Radial ready to go on the rear when my rear Whiner wears out at 9K miles.   ;)

I got 7,000 miles out of the original Pirelli Diablo II's, both front and rear.  Then I got the IIRC Road Winners.  2,000 miles (mostly eco riding) and the rear is finished, while the front still looks new.  The grip on the IIRC's is good but I am very disappointed with the short lifespan.  I'm considering getting the Angel GT's which only come in 150 size.  I bet it fits just fine.

10K miles now and the original Road Whiners are still hanging in there.  The rear looks to still have another thousand miles of tread left before it hits the wear bars.  ;)  But the handling is getting a little squirrelly now that the tread is kind of flattened out.

Yeah, that's why I can't believe they wore out so quickly.  Within the first 300 miles, they developed a flat spot in the middle.  Now they are all the way to the wear bars.  Not happy about it at all.

Sounds like a manufacturing defect to me.  Maybe they didn't mix the rubber compound correctly. ???

I don't know.  I am pretty hard on the bike, but I got over 6,000 miles on my Shinko Raven on the R1.  If they made one that fit, that's all I'd use for the rear. 

I do know that I don't regret purchasing the Angel GT.  At least as long as I get more than 2,000 miles if you know what I mean.
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