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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Richard230 on July 16, 2017, 07:39:45 PM

Title: Vehicle pollution history
Post by: Richard230 on July 16, 2017, 07:39:45 PM
Here is an interesting historical article:  http://www.banhdc.org/archives/ch-hist-19711000.html (http://www.banhdc.org/archives/ch-hist-19711000.html)

Followed by this more modern (and EV-related) article: 
http://www.fema-online.eu/website/index.php/2017/05/18/low-emission/ (http://www.fema-online.eu/website/index.php/2017/05/18/low-emission/)
Title: Re: Vehicle pollution history
Post by: MostlyBonkers on July 16, 2017, 11:50:56 PM
Interesting, thanks for posting Richard.

I'm surprised that so many bikers would rather switch to another mode of transport rather than go electric. I'm going to put that down to them not having ridden an electric bike. Riding an electric bike is a far superior experience in the city over an ICE with gears.  I should know, I commute into London.

Awareness is still a big issue. So many bikers don't know about Zero and are surprised that such a bike exists. Even more so when they learn a Zero can go over 30 mph and can cover common commuting distances.

Motorcycles have offered a solution to congestion for as long as it has been a problem. Fear and inconvenience will remain the fundamental issues that keep it that way.  I do hope that autonomous cars will help reduce some of the fear. Although at the same time, the differential in risk between riding in an autonomous car versus riding a bike will become bigger.

Title: Re: Vehicle pollution history
Post by: MrDude_1 on July 17, 2017, 10:16:49 AM
Riding an electric bike is a far superior experience in the city over an ICE with gears.  I should know, I commute into London.


It may surprise you, but I would say the far majority of USA riders ride almost exclusively outside the city. The first thing we do on a group ride, or I do for a fun ride, is to get out of the populated areas, and head to where there are fewer people and more twisties.
Title: Re: Vehicle pollution history
Post by: hubert on July 17, 2017, 07:20:20 PM
The comparison between horse pollution and car pollution, somehow, oversees that there has been a far better "solution", just in between. Electric urban transportation, one century ago. And mostly abandoned!

Interesting article about the quantitative effect of horses in some american cities. As motorbikers prefer riding outside cities, horseback riding also is much more funny in the countryside!