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I am a dummy and overpriced these, Would you like some racks

I just got my hard boxes mounted so I no longer need my Givi side boxes and racks.

Here are the racks from Zero:
https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=199

Here are the boxes from Zero:
https://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_7&products_id=232

They come as one unit when you get the kit, but the two links up there make it easier to see all the parts.

The tank plastic is missing the O from (fell off while I had it stored!)
20160715_073404 by Ethestral, on Flickr

Photo is old, before I installed the Diginow charger, but if you zoom in you'll see the tank storage that Zero put in back in 2016.

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Parts, Mods And Hacks / Touratech Boxes on a 2016 DSR
« on: January 15, 2019, 06:29:36 AM »
I have just about wrapped up mounting boxes to the 2016 DSR, this has been in the works since I bought the bike new! First plan was to weld up a custom frame. Then life happened.

You can find the SW-Motech rack listed here twisted throttle:
https://www.twistedthrottle.com/sw-motech-quick-lock-evo-side-carriers-to-fit-many-side-case-types-for-zero-dsr-15-17

20181101_114733 by Ethestral, on Flickr

I had to drill two new holes to get the plate adapter to mount properly.
20181101_105213 by Ethestral, on Flickr

20181101_112403 by Ethestral, on Flickr

I already had the Touratech boxes (bought for the custom build) so I didn't buy the SW Motech boxes. It did mean I had to adjust the mounting hardware to get them to mount properly. I will still need to add a 1/8" spacer to keep them from rattling as the SW Motech rack is just that much smaller than the Touratech rack system.

20190113_125607 by Ethestral, on Flickr

Here you see the turn signals relocated, I scratched my head about where to put them as the rack install instructions include zip tying the extended leads to the narrow plastic piece that holds the plate from the factory. Using 14 ga wire (4 strands), adding a cable keyway (one already present for the plate light) and enlarging the weep hole at the base of the license stalk assembly I was able to extend the wires inside factory body work for the relocated turn signals.

20190113_130318 by Ethestral, on Flickr

20190113_130235 by Ethestral, on Flickr

These are the large boxes, big enough to fit a large full face helmet. I have no idea what it will do to my efficiency yet but I can say I am happy to have them on the bike for sure. Aside from drilling some holes there are few tools needed to install this system. Additionally it uses the same strong points I planned to use. I had planned to use the passenger peg mounting bolt locations but the clamp style seems to work alright.

No these boxes will not survive a Dakar rally, but neither would I.  Let me know if there are questions.

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Tech Help / Home charging solutions
« on: July 20, 2018, 04:53:30 AM »
Coworker and I both have EV's mine has two wheels theirs is more expensive. I bought the diginow charging setup for my 16 DSR and its awesome. At home I wired a 50 amp, nema 1450 plug to use with my diginow J1772 adapter. I can piggyback both the factory chargers and the diginow to charge around 7.9 kw safely at home from the J1772 alone.

My question is about what is typically inside of a wall charging unit. If my coworker were to visit and use my "straight pipe" to charge do they risk damage to their vehicle?

Whats inside a wall charger aside from a nice relay or two connecting the voltage to a simple switch on the face? Are there conditioning circuits inside?

I would like to host but am afraid of cooking their car. I could take apart a free one at work but I have too much respect for EVI to just break something that's working.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Front brake line twist and tuck
« on: June 17, 2018, 05:29:59 PM »
Could someone with a 17' or 18' DSR post some pictures of the front brake line as it gets routed under the dash. I think I'll follow what the factory did in order to make space for a key on the dash.

I am hoping to get by my local shop within a week or two but it doesn't hurt to ask everyone here first. I haven't been able to find any photos showing routing in promotional photos so I may just have to make the trip.

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I have attached photos that make all the text below moot. Its just a simple and clean way to piggy back (or not) given your charging needs and/or plug type availability.

Wanted to pass this along to the possibly dozen or so folks that may use it. The Diginow chargers can piggy back the factory charger and add 1.3kw to which ever set up you have. You can permanently install the connection and remove the plug from the side of the bike. However I like the flexibility of charging slow using the factory set up or fast with the SCV2.

For a while I simply placed the C13 connector into the frame and had the cable zip tied near by. That configuration would touch my leg while I rode and seemed sloppy (not that I have improved it by much). I bought a second C13 (male) socket and zip tied it in place for proof of concept. I need to mount it permanently to the aluminum flange hiding the factory charging connection. If anyone can chime in with a better source of the C13 socket I am all ears. Mouser has forever been a maze to me so if someone knows tricks to navigating their site I welcome your advice.

Side note, does anyone know the easiest way to get new rubber grommets for the massive swing arm bolts?

20170426_134327 by Ethestral, on Flickr

20170426_135008 by Ethestral, on Flickr

20170426_135018 by Ethestral, on Flickr

20170426_135027 by Ethestral, on Flickr

20170426_135033 by Ethestral, on Flickr

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Air horn on the DSR 2016
« on: November 07, 2016, 09:50:12 AM »
I tried mounting the Screaming Banshee horn and haven't found a spot that worked well. The complete unit is too tall to fit any where except under the seat on the GIVI rack. I think that location feeds it too much mud and road-gross. Worth noting the horn is loud enough to work from under there. I tried it behind the head lamp as seen in the first photo. I used brackets to make more space behind the headlight. The pivot pushed the windscreen back and the headlight assembly was a little askew when closed up (longer brackets maybe).  Doing this pointed the headlight the moon, I did not take the time to adjust the lamp back down so I can't be sure there is enough pivot to put the beam back on the roadway. Not awesome. Four brackets instead of two would fix the problems but I'm trying to be less invasive with the install.

Screaming banshee tucked behind the headlight assembly.  Pushed beam too far up back to drawing board. by Ethestral, on Flickr

Figured I would mount some old broken stuff and see if it worked. Used a Stebel Nautilus, snapped at the clip that holds the horn onto the compressor (happens when you run them on a dual sport in the winter). The pieces still work but you have to zip tie them together to get blast that still sounds wheezy or silent depending on your tie skills. By separating them I was able to fit everything without changing the nose of the DSR. The horn portion and almost perfectly snaps around the fork tube. Then I set to work mounting the compressor nearby. I used some clear plastic tubing (3/8" outside diameter, 1/4" ID) and silicone to join the two parts. The shorter you keep the plastic tubing, the faster the horn sounds and sharper the initial blast should be. I had a hard time finding a solid ground so I cheated and pulled it from the headlight socket. I converted to an LED so I know the draw on the circuit won't be taxed by the extra load from the horn relay (someone with actual electrical engineering knowledge here please correct me if I'm off base or messing things by cross-feeding the electrical system)

20161106_125044 by Ethestral, on Flickr
top left to right
Headlight socket, tapped for solid ground. Relay supporting the far end of the compressor (low left). Compressor is the cylinder mounted in the middle (drilled one hole in the lower headlight support to mount). Far right, blocking the view of the fork tube is the horn unit.

All buttoned up left side
20161106_143155 by Ethestral, on Flickr

All buttoned up right side
20161106_143215 by Ethestral, on Flickr

In case you didn't see the wiki from Semper Why on how to tap the fusebox before it hits the factory fuses you can read it here
http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Common_Modifications#New_Circuits

Its solid, yes the pro tip is to remove the 3mm screw most inboard on the bike and pivot the block down to spring the plug from the top. I double checked on my bike to see that the feed to the fuse block came from the top not the bottom of the block.

20161030_154238 by Ethestral, on Flickr

This is where I pulled my hot to feed the relay, I do worry a little that I will over load the 14ga wire feeding this single fuse. However I see a horn blast as a momentary event. On my build that circuit is only feeding a two amp USB charger, and the fuse on the horn lead that I added is a 10amp. I am only overrunning the designed load by 20% on a momentary basis. If I add heated gear I will need to reconsider my voltage feed, stumble deeper into the depths of the black box on my go fast machine.

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General Discussion / DC slow ride, anyone interested?
« on: August 05, 2016, 05:52:15 AM »
Are there enough folks in the D.C. Metro region to do a slow lap? I've ridden the lap before with a group of friends and it's usually a good time. Figure if people are interested we can plan a date/time in a couple weeks or so. Might need to do a weekday ride as some of the roads are restricted on certain days. I'll verify if there's interest.

Route is simple. Start in Rockville, MD wander to the top of beach drive (25 mph follows creek into the city), beach to the D.C.mall. Grab some lunch then head back out through Georgetown. Take the Clara Barton to MacArthur, then onto falls road. I think the highest speed there is 35. In all its around a 50 mile loop and there are a couple charging stations in Rockville if folks need to top off before the start.

I like starting out of the city as the lunch options are varied downtown but I'm open to change. If people are interested I'll make a Google map and link it. Also don't see much of a reason for it to be a zero exclusive event.

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General Discussion / Loading a Zero
« on: July 18, 2016, 11:34:38 AM »
Hello All,

If you are on the fence about buying an electric motorcycle have you considered how easy it will be to load a direct drive, high torque, relatively low weight bike? I didn't, but it is strikingly different.



I did not consider how often I load my motorcycle for weekend trips. This weekend was no exception, and because I wanted to as all of you questions about belt noise I happened to have my camera with me.

It was stupid simple to get the DSR into the back of my truck. I have a tall truck (its stock) and loading dual sports can be a dodgy game. Sadly I have dropped several in my day, but dents are like a patina that you earned story by story. Even the dumb stories leave marks.

Comments on how to film are welcome, just remember I paid the neighbor kid $8 to film, narrate, and edit the above glory.

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General Discussion / Only charge at work?
« on: June 29, 2016, 11:43:40 PM »
Hello internet!

There's an awesome community with EV's these days and I'm planning to jump in but I figured I'd ask folks for their thoughts before laying down giant sums of money.

How many folks charge at work exclusively. My apt will make charging difficult so I'm wondering what headaches I'm not aware of yet.

My thoughts are along the lines of, I'm at work way too long as it is so both time and permission are in my favor. As for charging I'm in the D.C.metro region so there are plenty of alternate sources. I just can't plug in at home.

Any guidance for unseen headaches? Am I safe in the assumption that charging at work is a decent plan? I'm planning in a high kw onboard mounted smart charger (j1772 w/ ne ma 14-50 pigtail) but that will wait for a moment.


Thank you all, this forum is awesome
-MOCO maybe


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