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 on: Today at 01:26:48 AM 
Started by DonTom - Last post by DonTom
Just had mine done this morning, then ran some errands on the way back, so a few key cycles.

No new issues with my Experia, reverse works fine.  Only new thing I noticed is the menu on the main screen seems to go from the only "settings/preferences/diagnostics" to "settings/handgrips" choices, not sure if its speed related or what causes it to change.  Obviously handgrips menu is new.  I haven't charged it yet to see how much "EXTIMATED" time it will take...  ::)
I have no "new" issues since V43, just that it fixed none of my old issues. Still has lots of bugs.


I have only ridden my Experica a few times since the update, but it was enough to see all the old bugs.


IIRC, the "heated grips" selection goes away at stops or very low speeds.  I assume that is intended.


-Don-  Reno, NV




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 on: May 23, 2024, 11:33:35 PM 
Started by DonTom - Last post by weck
I picked up my Experia yesterday and rode it back to Reno from Auburn, CA the same day.


If version 43 is supposed to fix any of my bugs, it didn't in my Experia.


In the 99-mile ride back, I still experienced several bugs I had in the past.


First bug yesterday with V 43:


I use reverse to get out of my garage. Goes a few feet and then motor dies with the same old "undefined faut-contact service".

2nd Bug:
Then I reboot, start to head to Reno. I get the "FOB out of range" message in less than a half mile.


Again around 20 miles up the freeway.


The I take a break at the Truckee, CA airport as I get a free charge.


I stop the AC charge after I gain 10% SOC (nice long break).


I use reverse again. Same problem "undefined fault". Then need to turn the bike off and on again. Next time reverse okay, no fault.

3rd bug:
Now back on the freeway. About two miles up it, my screen says that "The charging cable may now be removed".


If version 43 is supposed to fix any bugs, it didn't on my Experia.


I have not yet tried a fast charger since v 43, but perhaps that will be the only thing it does better.


But so far, I am disappointed with version 43 as it fixed none of my bugs.


Is V43 only supposed to improve charging? Has no bug fixes?


-Don-  Reno, NV

Just had mine done this morning, then ran some errands on the way back, so a few key cycles.

No new issues with my Experia, reverse works fine.  Only new thing I noticed is the menu on the main screen seems to go from the only "settings/preferences/diagnostics" to "settings/handgrips" choices, not sure if its speed related or what causes it to change.  Obviously handgrips menu is new.  I haven't charged it yet to see how much "EXTIMATED" time it will take...  ::)

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 on: May 23, 2024, 10:24:05 PM 
Started by Specter - Last post by Pard
^^^ Understood!  Brave man indeed taking on this adventure despite the orthopedic challenges.  Bravo!

 4 
 on: May 23, 2024, 08:47:08 PM 
Started by Specter - Last post by Specter
Pard the toe issue is me leaning the bike over that much.  I can't get off the seat as much as I need, or as fast as I need, so was leaning the bike into the turn THAT much.  It still had solid grip but as you can see by my tires, I used every ounce of bike and tire in those turns, sometimes even tickling sidewalls it seems.  If I had my leg hanging way down it would have absolutely been my knee.  Now we BOTH know that, this much lean, is not the greatest way to do things.  so Ive been working on trying to get over / get off more.

I got better tank grips now I can really squeeze my legs into the bike and STEER finally!  That is a big grip and slippery as shit otherwise and you do NOT have a lot of control otherwise ...nothing to grip and control, if you are slipping and sliding.  This leaves you with handlebar input and lean input... again, BOTH not the best way to do things.  It was a bad habit I learned because I didn't have proper setup on the tank.

Now I am UN learning that habit, getting much better at using my legs to steer and the arms only to gently guide, ie NO death grip or strong arming the handle bar, (unless you are in a hard / bad stop of course)

My other problem is, my back is full of screws / pins / rods / plates and other hardware that comes with multiple fusions.  My neck has artificial discs, my left arm / shoulder has hardware in it.  Hip.. well you get the idea.  Im not as limber as I once was, now throw a shit ton of arthritis and 60 years of abuse onto the body and well....  Here I am !!!   8) ;D   Im working on it, it's going to be a long road, but eventually Ill figure things out to do better around all this crap.

I do not zip from side to side as fast as I'd like to, or sometimes need to, and i may take a second or so to get from one side to another... now throw 120 mph and multiple fast  left / right / left / /  GO GO GO !! type turns and you don't have a few seconds to get over to the other side, AND BACK !!  so you can slow down / hang over / lean like a mo fo... It's a work of art.... in progress  8)

Im doing my  research now and will probably get one of those 360  x4 camera's to mount.  Thinking in the front windshield area might be the best, that way I can see in front of me, see ME, my lean and that stuff to start helping me along as well.  If not there Ive seen some that mount on the ass end,  I was thinking of putting it behind me but up and over my head, that way it shows EVERYthing in front, including me, and the back as well, but they don't really like camera's on sticks, on the tracks, so i'll have to figure that out too.

Aaron

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 on: May 23, 2024, 08:27:53 PM 
Started by MrMogensen - Last post by Specter
I race mine, while I am nowhere near what would be considered an expert, I still pound the shit out of it, battery wise.
I'll slam the throttle trying to go as fast as I can go, for the 20 seconds or so I have to do so in the space that i am doing 140 MPH in, then hump the brakes and especially regen.  I use FULL regen and use it constantly to help me in turns, stopping, etc,  it's constantly being moved around.
Now whether that is helping or hurting my overall progress, remains to be seen but for the sake of this convo, im constantly moving current, often times LARGE amounts of it, in and out of the battery.

When I get into the paddock, Ill throw it on the fast charger to bring it up to 94 percent.  ( I don't do 100 percent, because as I said, I use regen and there needs to be a place to put it to use it ! )  Once it's charged, I'll get it and get me ready for my next 20 minute session of hammering the bike on the track.

Normal sessions, 20 minutes on,  40 off.

Better sessions, 30 minutes on,  30 off.  (low turnout days, they'll combine expert / Intermediate into one,  novice in other)

Premium sessions, open track, you do whatever you want  (this generally is when I am invited to a private group to race / play)  or if there is a rainout and most the people say, im takling my toys and I'm going home, but a few hard core dummies, such as me go, screw it, I paid for this, im racing in the rain!   

anyways, the bike is getting a fair amount of power transfer.
Now, my bike is pitch ass BLACK,  BLACK bike,   sitting in the hot ass Florida sun, charging, discharging....  Trust me, that black bike can get hot as shit under the sun, and the battery is right under those fairings, in that hot box.

Only once have I pushed it hard enough to run it into the Yellow, and THAT was when I let a professional racer use the bike who is capable of hitting 150 MPH or more on the back stretches, and much faster speeds overall than I currently am.

I hate standing blistering in the sun, especially wearing 25 pounds of Leather / Armor / Helmet/ ... you get the idea, so I set up a tarp / canopy.
Under the canopy the bike so far has never hit yellow let alone hard yellow.

Bike 2:

I ride my Ribelle on the highway,  I like to ride spirited.  Im not one of those assholes who wants to weave and zip in and out back and forth thru traffic, if there's traffic Ill stay my lane... that other shit is just too dangerous and sooner or later those clowns get pulled in front of and end up as road pizza.  NOW..... If I get an open spot, or bit of pavement that has no obstructions, I have been accused of opening the throttle up a bit.  Sunday mornings, fairly early,  for some reason, my throttle likes to get stuck when I open it, and sometimes it takes me several miles to figure out how to get it back down again... I need to work on that....

Fairly hard but consistent riding for MILES ..... charge.... go to next destination.
WHen it's July / August in Florida and blistering Fkn hot, mid 90s out.  Ive turned it yellow fairly often after say 20 minutes of harder running.
To date I really can not say where I have seen it curtail my fun power level.    Once or twice I have seen it back off my fast charge to say 40 amps or so,  if it's real bad, like I just did a WOT for 12 miles straight on a hot ass day, ive seen it limit me to 25 amps.. but I really need to be abusive to get it to do that,

Unless you are riding your bike hot and hard, I honestly do not  thing a normal user is going to have any issues with the battery charging and stuff like that.

If you live in North Florida or nearby, I'll take you for a track day and we can show you first hand if you want.

Aaron

 6 
 on: May 23, 2024, 07:57:02 PM 
Started by DarenH - Last post by DarenH
Since last October I was able to get my DS back on the road. I did remove the battery box and replaced all electronics within the box.  I used an Amorge 72v Battery 56ah 390a battery, Alltrax SR72500 Controller, Sevcon stepdown,  I was able to get the instrument panel all working except the battery gauge which I installed one on the bars along with a temp gauge.  Over 1400 miles and still going strong. It can get up to 76mph running at 260a.  I did upgrade the brushes to the new version by Agni motors.

 7 
 on: May 23, 2024, 07:46:42 PM 
Started by beatmaster - Last post by MrMogensen
Correct me if I am wrong but, I think Energica just extended the warranty on some of their older models battery, so you might still have a year or so warranty left on it.  But still, this is a good check to make to get an idea how it's holding up.
Also, how many miles is on it?  Typically though you'd have to put about 120k miles or more on one to really start wearing the battery hard if it has been taken care of.

Aaron

I saw somewhere that you had to pay for that extra warranty!
It's like they give people a owners a chance to opt for the extra warranty that wasn't available as extra when bike was ordered from factory.

 8 
 on: May 23, 2024, 07:41:59 PM 
Started by MrMogensen - Last post by MrMogensen
Unfortunately it seems you people aren't good at talking me out of it...

What about battery/motor issues with the bigger pack + mavel setup after 2021?

As far as I understand the newer Energicas mainly has an issue with continuous fastcharging. Let's leave the keycard out of it - I have no interest in that.

 9 
 on: May 23, 2024, 06:09:22 PM 
Started by Specter - Last post by Pard
@Specter , if you are still having toe drag issues, consider putting a camera on the fairing and filming your feet.  Will help you analyze what needs modification. 


 10 
 on: May 23, 2024, 11:26:17 AM 
Started by beatmaster - Last post by jotjotde
Yes, you are right, but maybe there would a chance to get them interested in testing Energica's batteries in their 'Early Access' program.

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