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Title: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: JaimeC on October 01, 2019, 08:28:02 PM
Downloading now...

"What's New" simply says:  "New Look and Feel."  That could be a good thing, or a bad thing.  Guess I'll know soon enough...
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: JaimeC on October 02, 2019, 12:39:05 AM
Wow... it really DOES look different.  I haven't been able to explore it much but at least it kept the same "Dash" layout that I had previously set.  Need to do more exploring when I have more time at home.
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: JaimeC on October 03, 2019, 04:39:56 AM
For some reason my "Custom" settings were reset to defaults when I first opened it.  I've put it back to where I had it before and all seems good now.  It hasn't reset either.  Wonder why that was "forgotten" but not my dash layout?
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: Richard230 on October 03, 2019, 04:45:57 AM
The updated app made absolutely no changes to my custom programming or to any of the app's design or features.   Everything is just the same as it was before the update.  ???
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: JaimeC on October 03, 2019, 05:18:26 PM
The updated app made absolutely no changes to my custom programming or to any of the app's design or features.   Everything is just the same as it was before the update.  ???

That is very strange.  It looks VERY different on my phone (Galaxy S10).
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: Richard230 on October 03, 2019, 07:38:01 PM
The updated app made absolutely no changes to my custom programming or to any of the app's design or features.   Everything is just the same as it was before the update.  ???

That is very strange.  It looks VERY different on my phone (Galaxy S10).

That is probably my problem.  I have a bottom-feeder $150 LG phone that I only use to make phone calls, listen to robocall voice mail messages and to check on my Zero.   I bet if I had a more expensive phone the app would look different.  ::)
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: NEW2elec on October 03, 2019, 08:47:25 PM
This was posted on the FB page.  They need to get a new guy in charge of this stuff.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71495420_2418472374895390_1609650852304257024_n.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_oc=AQmA8H0DDYvgroIkXpUF7cCrj4UDPS6Mgf2p2K8a_7SQxc6VpjD7Fn4IPsPJGK7hkD_9eF_VLiTaLgRaOYzR686Y&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&oh=4e2597bcc245d79191dd1750a04fcfab&oe=5E3B2BBF
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: JaimeC on October 03, 2019, 09:36:49 PM
Interesting but... Richard230 and I have regular old 2018 "S" model Zeros, not the new-fangled fancy SR/F.  Does Zero use the same app for both model lines?  I guess it would save development time to have a single code base, but it looks like the SR/F has far more capabilities than the bikes we have...
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: NetPro on October 03, 2019, 11:11:29 PM
Interesting but... Richard230 and I have regular old 2018 "S" model Zeros, not the new-fangled fancy SR/F.  Does Zero use the same app for both model lines?  I guess it would save development time to have a single code base, but it looks like the SR/F has far more capabilities than the bikes we have...

They do not use the same app.
When you go to install the app for the SR/F it explicitly states it is only for 2020 SR/F
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: JaimeC on October 04, 2019, 12:48:25 AM
They do not use the same app.
When you go to install the app for the SR/F it explicitly states it is only for 2020 SR/F

Thanks for the clarification.  That makes more sense.
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: Richard230 on October 04, 2019, 03:59:09 AM
I agree, that is understandable, but I do wonder what the automatic Zero app update did for my 2018 S screen?  It is a mystery to me, unless the update that I received only works if you have an SR/F.  That would make sense, too.   ???
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: Crissa on October 04, 2019, 04:24:45 AM
They change the stuff in the background of the apps as well as the foreground.  The SR/F uses a completely different app.

-Crissa
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: Richard230 on October 04, 2019, 04:45:01 AM
They change the stuff in the background of the apps as well as the foreground.  The SR/F uses a completely different app.

-Crissa

That may be, but I just don't see it.   ???
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: BrianTRice@gmail.com on October 04, 2019, 05:28:35 AM
It seems to be a different codebase, in addition to the UI facelift.

I don’t have a bike to test it with, but reports from Facebook indicate better but not perfect interaction around the Bluetooth connection with the bike.

The interaction and UI layout are definitely improved, and it seems to offer more app-dash display options.

My one real annoyance is the font. It bothers my eyes and I cannot figure out why it was chosen other than to look cool. You can tell that the kerning isn’t top notch by noticing uneven spacing between characters. Maybe it’s more legible while riding but I would guess the opposite.
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: JaimeC on October 04, 2019, 05:37:44 AM
I agree... the numbers on the "dash" are smaller than they used to be making it a bit harder to interpret at a glance.
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: Richard230 on October 04, 2019, 06:15:00 AM
It seems to be a different codebase, in addition to the UI facelift.

I don’t have a bike to test it with, but reports from Facebook indicate better but not perfect interaction around the Bluetooth connection with the bike.

The interaction and UI layout are definitely improved, and it seems to offer more app-dash display options.

My one real annoyance is the font. It bothers my eyes and I cannot figure out why it was chosen other than to look cool. You can tell that the kerning isn’t top notch by noticing uneven spacing between characters. Maybe it’s more legible while riding but I would guess the opposite.

Now that you mention it, it did seem to connect to my bike much faster and easier then in the past.  So maybe that was the big change.  ??? If the font changed, I didn't notice it. But then I wasn't looking for fonts, just a change in information displayed on the screen and checking to be sure that my custom settings didn't change.
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: domingo3 on October 04, 2019, 04:24:57 PM
I noticed two things with the update.

1)  When I opened the app after the update, it asked me what bike I had.  I correctly entered that I have an FXS.  Weird that it needed to ask, but OK.

2)  The riding screen displayed 113 ft-lbs of torque when at full throttle.  I wish that was accurate.
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: Richard230 on October 05, 2019, 04:06:47 AM
I spoke too soon about the app working well.  When I gave it a try today it connected via Bluetooth and then said that it was "an unknown model".  The opening screen also looked a little different and had battery information that was incorrect.  It did not ask me what Zero model that I had.  I opened and closed the Zero app and also turned my bike on and off several times and eventually it recognized my bike. The screen didn't look any different than before the "update", but at least all of the information was correct.   ???
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: JaimeC on October 05, 2019, 04:25:54 AM
The first time you connect with the new software, it asks you what model Zero you have, rather than detecting it automatically.  Once you select your model it connects quicker than the old version did.  The first screen after that "Connection" looks pretty much the same, but the sub menus have changed drastically.  The dash layout was remembered from the previous version but the font they use now is pretty damned tiny and is hard to read out of the corner of your eye.  I have the clock front and center but it is no longer easy to read unless I take my eyes off the road to look at it.  Bad design.  I know there's a clock on the dash, but it is wildly inaccurate at the moment.  I set the correct time when we "Sprung Ahead" for daylight saving time but it is now eight minutes fast.  Next month when I "Fall Back" I'll set the time correctly again.  No point in doing it more often as the app shows the correct time.
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: Richard230 on October 05, 2019, 04:53:34 AM
The first time you connect with the new software, it asks you what model Zero you have, rather than detecting it automatically.  Once you select your model it connects quicker than the old version did.  The first screen after that "Connection" looks pretty much the same, but the sub menus have changed drastically.  The dash layout was remembered from the previous version but the font they use now is pretty damned tiny and is hard to read out of the corner of your eye.  I have the clock front and center but it is no longer easy to read unless I take my eyes off the road to look at it.  Bad design.  I know there's a clock on the dash, but it is wildly inaccurate at the moment.  I set the correct time when we "Sprung Ahead" for daylight saving time but it is now eight minutes fast.  Next month when I "Fall Back" I'll set the time correctly again.  No point in doing it more often as the app shows the correct time.

Once my app connected to my bike, I didn't notice any of the changes that you mention.  When I first connected after the update, it didn't ask what model Zero I owned. The first screen initially had a some boxes and a slider, but none of it did anything before it finally connected to my Zero at which time it reverted to the previous screen.  ???
Title: Re: 10/01/2019 Updated Zero app in the Google Play Store
Post by: domingo3 on October 05, 2019, 07:47:47 AM
  The dash layout was remembered from the previous version but the font they use now is pretty damned tiny and is hard to read out of the corner of your eye.  I have the clock front and center but it is no longer easy to read unless I take my eyes off the road to look at it. 

Just goes to show you that solving one problem makes another. In previous versions of the app, fonts were too big on my phone.   Numbers took up two lines and were bigger than the boxes in the riding screen, so I'd see the bottom half of one number and the top half of the digit after the decimal on the next line. Now it's perfect.