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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: DPsSRnSD on November 30, 2018, 11:09:43 PM
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Does your on-board charger work properly on a GFCI-protected circuit?
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Until I saw these posts I was oblivious to the fact that I have been using a GFCI outlet ever since I had a dedicated circuit run from the house to the garage back in 2016. Since then, I've been using it with no issues... first with my original 2016 S, and now with my 2018 S.
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Nice poll! I'll answer it once I get the bike back from the dealership. ;D
-k
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Nice poll! I'll answer it once I get the bike back from the dealership. ;D
-k
I too am glad to see such a poll.
My answer is it depends. It will trip on some GFCI outlets and not others.
My SR will NOT trip the GFI at any of my three houses. But it will trip the GFI at the Colfax train station every time, within about two minutes.
Others have this problem too. See here. (https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Common_Problems#GFCI_Faults)
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Nice poll! I'll answer it once I get the bike back from the dealership. ;D
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I too am glad to see such a poll.
My answer is it depends. It will trip on some GFCI outlets and not others.
My SR will NOT trip the GFI at any of my three houses. But it will trip the GFI at the Colfax train station every time, within about two minutes.
Others have this problem too. See here. (https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Common_Problems#GFCI_Faults)
-Don- Auburn, CA
I added another option for this case.
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I added another option for this case.
Good job! I just did the very first vote for your new option as that was the only one that applied to my case. However, I expect that to be the most common one to be checked if enough people here vote who have tried several different GFI outlets.
I think we can all find outlets that trip every time (the newer GFIs detect less than 5 ma of current, which is almost nothing, before they trip). Older ones usually trip at around 30ma. They usually trip within a tenth of a second when they hit the threshold.
How sensitive they are to electrical noise, frequencies, waveshapes etc. casing them to trip, I will assume varies greatly.
Such trips NOT caused by a true fault have a name. It is called "nuisance tripping" in case anybody here wants to do a web-search on "GFI nuisance tripping". No doubt one can find tons of info. on it as it's a common problem.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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I voted "never tried", but then decided to try running a 15A extension cord from the kitchen which has GFCI outlets from a remodel in 2000. Now I'd like to change my vote to "works fine", but I can't see an option to do that.
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I voted "never tried", but then decided to try running a 15A extension cord from the kitchen which has GFCI outlets from a remodel in 2000. Now I'd like to change my vote to "works fine", but I can't see an option to do that.
I thought I set it up to allow changing votes but I don't see how to actually do it either.
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I voted "never tried", but then decided to try running a 15A extension cord from the kitchen which has GFCI outlets from a remodel in 2000. Now I'd like to change my vote to "works fine", but I can't see an option to do that.
You probably have non-GFI outlets in your garage that are protected from the GFI outlets in the kitchen (sometimes bathroom). If you can trip the one in your kitchen (or bathroom) see if you have power in the garage. Perhaps most homes are wired this way and perhaps most don't even realize it.
-Don- Auburn, CA
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Voted "fine". However, here in Europe, there are no such kind of outlets directly integrating the GFI. Normally the complete home is protected against ground faults using one or more differential interruptors installed in the main electric distribution bay, where all the fuses or magnetothermic breakers and relays are also mounted. Standard is 30mA.
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I have a GFCI breaker which serves the bathrooms and outdoor outlet. Never had a problem.
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I voted that my bike doesn't work on GFCI outlets, but that's wrong. It worked on my garage circuit, but not the one the electrician installed outside for charging.
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I voted that my bike doesn't work on GFCI outlets, but that's wrong. It worked on my garage circuit, but not the one the electrician installed outside for charging.
How old is the one in the garage? If it's many years old, it probably takes 30 ma of differential current to trip. Newer ones will trip in around 5 ma and most likely, that's the difference you're experiencing.
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I voted that my bike doesn't work on GFCI outlets, but that's wrong. It worked on my garage circuit, but not the one the electrician installed outside for charging.
How old is the one in the garage? If it's many years old, it probably takes 30 ma of differential current to trip. Newer ones will trip in around 5 ma and most likely, that's the difference you're experiencing.
The one in the garage could be over 20 years old.
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I used to have GFCI Outlet problems, and then I did what Terry said to do and broke the ground pin off my charge cables.
Now that the onboard charger died and was replaced under warranty, I don't had the problem even with new charge cables with ground pins.
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I voted "never tried",
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Now I'd like to change my vote to "works fine", but I can't see an option to do that.
Me too.
I forgot that I recently "topped the tank" (60 or so to 100%) using a gfi with no issues.
Here's a good video on how a GFI works.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XTUUijDclWk