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That’s just about all I would need on the SR/F. Do you notice any change in steering dynamics?

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Don't laugh but this is what I chose for now: https://www.denniskirk.com/quadboss/black-7-8-in-suzuki-oem-bend-handlebar-12-368.p5902801.prd/5902801.sku

Sorry, but I had to laugh a little. Mini ape hangers on a Zero. Gotta love it. I think 2" risers will be fine for me.

Thanks for all the info.

I test-rode an SR/F yesterday and my first thought was that the foot pegs were too high. In fact, the position hurt my legs a little and I figured that I had just saved myself a bunch of money. Much to my amazement within a minute or two the pain left and the position didn’t bother me any more. The seat to handlebar geometry isn’t much different than my SR though I must admit I am quite interested to see if anyone has luck with risers as I wouldn’t mind being a little more upright. I rode the the top model with the 2  chargers so I was expecting it to feel heavy but it wasn’t that bad (all of my reasons for not buying one were melting away). I don’t really need fast charging so if I order one it will be the single charger model to  save weight and money. I really like the bike.  Very smooth and solid and dips into turns very easily. The salesman told me to stay in Street Mode but it didn’t feel any faster than my SR so I quickly pulled over and put it in Sport.  Now we’re talking. It feels quicker than the SR around town, especially from a stop, and on the highway there is a huge difference in acceleration. I whacked the throttle at 70mph and was  surprised at  how hard it threw me back. This is a seriously quick machine. I had been telling myself that I don’t need anything more powerful than my SR but now I want the SR/F anyway.  Besides, I really would like to have the electronic safety features. Even though the riding  position is on the sporty side, it is nowhere near a supersport and after riding it, I think  my 67-year-old bod can adapt. I had gone to the dealership to sell my Honda on consignment and the salesman knew me from buying my SR there so he told me to take the SR/F out for a ride.  Damn good sales technique.

Since the change in plugged/unplugged protocol I have been leaving the bike partially charged so it had been sitting at 74% for a couple of weeks. I took it out for a short ride without charging it because I figured after a few local errands I would be near the magic 60% level. When I gave it full throttle it briefly started to accelerate and then hesitated and just stopped accelerating. At first I thought I had lost a couple of teeth on the belt but once I slowed down and accelerated slowly it seemed to be OK. I tried accelerating hard again and the same thing happened. Then I accelerated slowly to a higher speed and it seemed to be lacking top-end power. I went home, charged it overnight and the next day all was well. I am not going to let it sit anymore and then take it out with a partial charge.

Quote from: MichaelJohn on October 22, 2017, 10:46:34 PM

Quote from: Richard230 on October 22, 2017, 07:37:35 PM

Anyway, I am going for the "bird in the hand" and not the "one in the bush". 

Agree completely. Asking for quantum leaps in range and charging and then being annoyed that Zero can't produce miracles is downright ungrateful. They have made improvements every year and have come a long way. I am elated that Zero even exists and produces a real-world electric motorcyle that I can walk in and buy. If not for Zero where would we be?  Yes there are well known limitations and I would love to see a fairing but I don't mind at all having a second motorcycle for longer trips - in fact, I enjoy it. Besides, my Zero has enough range for 90% of my riding anyway. It is unbeatable on shorter trips and around town - just ask the Buell rider that I absolutely smoked at a stoplight yesterday. Have some patience, the bikes are getting better and Zero has done an incredible job just by putting electric motorcycles on the map.

What's with the "ungrateful"? I'm happy for you you live somewhere where keeping 2 bikes is an option. Not the case for lots of people, myself included.

I stated what would be necessary for Zero to sell me a bike and (IMHO) to lots of other people -- again, the number of mainstream reviews where the bottom line is "not ready for prime time" is instructive, and pretty much the only real issues are range/charging. Doing it here, among other places, because AFAIK some if not many Zero employees follow the board.

As for patience... I'm hoping to be able to justify a Zero before I'm a complete codger (-: .

Maybe I should've said unrealistic instead of ungrateful. My point is that Zero gets a lot of flak and yet they're the only game in town and I think they trying very hard to make improvements. They are a small company, not Tesla. I am grateful that they are making real motorcycles that work very well for a lot of us.

PS, there is nothing wrong with being a codger. I happen to be 66 and I play my 20-year-old taller, stronger son even in one-on-one basketball, still race bicycles and I ride the hell out of my motorcycles. May you enjoy codgerhood as much as I do.

My Zero was the only bike I had never dropped - then my 18-year-old son took care of that for me. I was getting ready to go for a ride and he hopped on it when I had my back turned. He made it about 2 feet down the driveway before it got the better of him and down he went. Broke my brake lever and scuffed up the mirror. He blamed it on the weight of the bike! After I realized he wasn't hurt he (and probably the neighbors) heard a few choice words from me.

After that incident I managed to drop it on my own. I went to pick up some take-out and parked on a downward slope - something I had done several times before on my Honda with no issues. I put the too-short kickstand down and as I was getting off the bike it rolled forward, fell over and knocked me flat on my butt. I jumped up and looked around to see if there were any witnesses - thankfully no one saw (that's the most important thing, right?) I hurriedly started to pick the bike up but it was still pointing downhill and with no parking brake or gears it got away from me, went down, knocked me over and deposited me on my butt again. This was getting ridiculous so on the next try I made sure to squeeze the brake lever as I lifted it which is what I should have done in the first place. I was in such a hurry to get the bike up and not be seen that I made even more of a fool of myself. Such is the peril of vanity.

A Zero with wheelie bars - that caught me by surprise. If you can somehow increase your top-end speed you will have a real weapon there.