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General Category => Electric Motorcycle Events => Topic started by: roma258 on May 12, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
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It's on!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEzrjnaVEAEfRXs.jpg:large)
https://twitter.com/BrammoSays/status/598111848504762368 (https://twitter.com/BrammoSays/status/598111848504762368)
Some details:
http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/12/8589315/victory-electric-race-motorcycle-isle-of-man-tt (http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/12/8589315/victory-electric-race-motorcycle-isle-of-man-tt)
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DAMN you're good: http://insideevs.com/victory-race-isle-man-rebranded-brammo-empulse/ (http://insideevs.com/victory-race-isle-man-rebranded-brammo-empulse/)
...beat me by minutes.
:D
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DAMN you're good: http://insideevs.com/victory-race-isle-man-rebranded-brammo-empulse/ (http://insideevs.com/victory-race-isle-man-rebranded-brammo-empulse/)
...beat me by minutes.
:D
Popped up on my twitter feed and you could say I got pretty excited.
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I just found the Victory video they posted - the editor's updating the post now.
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Rideapart.com has picked up the story: https://rideapart.com/articles/victory-motorcycles-race-isle-man-tt-zero
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Here is Autoblog's version, which includes the video: http://www.autoblog.com/2015/05/13/victory-motorcycles-officially-enters-tt-zero-video/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2015/05/13/victory-motorcycles-officially-enters-tt-zero-video/)
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Domenick found that on my story ;D
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They just posted a 100mph+ lap for their first practice yesterday:
http://insideevs.com/victory-makes-first-ever-iom-tt-zero-lap-tops-100mph-average/ (http://insideevs.com/victory-makes-first-ever-iom-tt-zero-lap-tops-100mph-average/)
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It looks like Mugen may have the "inside track" at the IOM right now. Apparently they are about 10 mph faster than Victory in qualifying:
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/08/mcguinness-breaks-tt-zero-record-qualifying/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2015/06/08/mcguinness-breaks-tt-zero-record-qualifying/)
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So Honda has been flexing its muscles at the IOM TT for 2 years now. When are they going to make a production bike?
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I'm sure that when Honda do come to market with an electric bike it'll be worth the wait. :-)
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I worry however that the Victory/Brammo is designed to be a short course bike, its going to struggle a wee bit on the mountain, still hopefully it'll give the Shindens a run for their money. Especially as the Sariola SP7 has not been posting the sort of times I hoped it would.
However Guy Martin is riding for Victory after Will Dunlop was injured. Martins a better rider than Dunlop.
Sadly though not only are the Shidens good bikes, they have McGuiness and Anstey piloting them... what you really need on the other Victory is Hutchy.
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Lee Johnson posts a decent 112mph through the first split. Anstey leading at 119mph
(4 bikes are not being timed)
Glen Helen Split
1. Bruce Anstey52015 BA Mugen Shinden 4 04:52.554 119.363 (4:52.554)L1
2. John McGuinness 2015 JM Mugen Shinden 04:53.406 119.016 (4:53.406)L1
3. Lee Johnston3 Brammo 05:10.875 112.328 (5:10.875)L1
4. Guy Martin6 Victory 05:19.927 109.150 (5:19.927)L1
5. James Cowton9 2015 BRUNEL BX-15 06:29.068 89.753 (6:29.068)L1
6. Michael Sweeney10 2015 E Bike University of Nottingham 07:12.451 80.749 (7:12.451)L1
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Top speed recorded in sector 2 - 163mph John McGuiness (Sulby speed trap)
Sector 2 Ballugh
1. John McGuinness1 2015 JM Mugen Shinden 03:21.570 125.824 (8:14.976)L1
2. Bruce Anstey5 2015 BA Mugen Shinden 4 03:24.681 125.253 (8:17.235)L1
3. Lee Johnston3 Brammo 03:39.848 117.349 (8:50.723)L1
4. Guy Martin6 Victory 03:42.361 114.847 (9:02.288)L1
5. Robert Wilson7 2014 Sarolea SP7 09:13.656 112.489 (9:13.656)L1 (transponder started working)
6. James Cowton9 2015 BRUNEL BX-15 04:51.471 91.516 (11:20.539)L1
7. Michael Sweeney10 2015 E Bike University of Nottingham 05:30.184 81.664 (12:42.635)L1
Sector 3 Ramsey Hairpin
1. John McGuinness1 2015 JM Mugen Shinden 03:31.689 130.925 (11:46.665)L1
2. Bruce Anstey5 2015 BA Mugen Shinden 4 03:34.404 130.010 (11:51.639)L1
3. Lee Johnston3 Brammo 03:51.074 121.450 (12:41.797)L1
4. Guy Martin6 Victory 03:53.872 119.202 (12:56.160)L1
5. Robert Wilson7 2014 Sarolea SP7 03:57.959 116.875 (13:11.615)L1
Sector 4 Bungalow
1. John McGuinness1 2015 JM Mugen Shinden 03:39.299 126.744 (15:25.964)L1
2. Bruce Anstey5 2015 BA Mugen Shinden 4 03:36.730 126.415 (15:28.369)L1
3. Lee Johnston3 Brammo 03:49.172 118.430 (16:30.969)L1
4. Guy Martin6 Victory 03:52.752 116.323 (16:48.912)L1
5. Robert Wilson7 2014 Sarolea SP7 04:03.011 113.432 (17:14.626)L1
Sector 5 Cronk-ny-mona
1. John McGuinness1 2015 JM Mugen Shinden 02:30.422 122.744 (17:56.386)L1
2. Bruce Anstey5 2015 BA Mugen Shinden 4 02:30.978 122.407 (17:59.347)L1
3. Lee Johnston3 Brammo 02:40.178 114.772 (19:11.147)L1
4. Guy Martin6 Victory 02:41.483 112.885 (19:30.395)L1
Grandstand
1. John McGuinness1 2015 JM Mugen Shinden 01:02.357 119.279 (18:58.743)L1
2. Bruce Anstey5 2015 BA Mugen Shinden 4 01:03.438 118.857 (19:02.785)L1
3. Lee Johnston3 Brammo 01:05.734 111.620 (20:16.881)L1
4. Guy Martin6 Victory 01:07.592 109.717 (20:37.987)L1
5. Robert Wilson7 2014 Sarolea SP7 04:00.630 106.510 (21:15.256)L1
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McGuiness wins it at 18:58.743 ; 119.279 mph...
111.62 mph for the Victory bike, that's really respectable.
Hahaha! McGuiness apparently was slower to the first split than Anstey because he had his bike effectively on Eco mode... He flipped it over to full power for the rest of the race.
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Any way to compare these times to lap one of ICE bikes?
I realize ICE bikes are not going for their fastest run, since they have at minimal 3 laps, on their first lap but I can't help but think electrics are not too far off lap one times.
Man I really with McGuiness wasn't in ECO mode for stage 1 >__<
How many more years before lap one TT Zero times can beat out ICE lap 3-6 times? Or is it even possible with this track?
How many more years before these bikes can do two laps?
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http://insideevs.com/mugen-shinden-takes-top-two-iomtt-zero-victory-takes-third/ (http://insideevs.com/mugen-shinden-takes-top-two-iomtt-zero-victory-takes-third/)
Thanks Justin!
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Solid showing by Victory IMO. Will be interesting to see if they come back next year. Should have some good data to work with.
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http://insideevs.com/mugen-shinden-takes-top-two-iomtt-zero-victory-takes-third/ (http://insideevs.com/mugen-shinden-takes-top-two-iomtt-zero-victory-takes-third/)
Thanks Justin!
No problem! :)
I saw the news article before I read this, and thought, holy heck I'm famous! ;)
However I suggest you link to the official PDF times in your news article as well, my times were scrapped off the real time feed and are a bit messy.
Results : http://www.iomtt.com/~/media/Files/2015/Race-results/SES-TT-Zero/Zero%20resulT.pdf (http://www.iomtt.com/~/media/Files/2015/Race-results/SES-TT-Zero/Zero%20resulT.pdf)
Lap Times: http://www.iomtt.com/~/media/Files/2015/Race-results/SES-TT-Zero/Zero%20sector.pdf (http://www.iomtt.com/~/media/Files/2015/Race-results/SES-TT-Zero/Zero%20sector.pdf)
Cheers! :)
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Solid showing by Victory IMO. Will be interesting to see if they come back next year. Should have some good data to work with.
I Really really do hope they come back, with Motorcysz out of the picture at the moment, the Mugens are dominating the field, and more teams are needed to challange them.
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Any way to compare these times to lap one of ICE bikes?
I realize ICE bikes are not going for their fastest run, since they have at minimal 3 laps, on their first lap but I can't help but think electrics are not too far off lap one times.
Man I really with McGuiness wasn't in ECO mode for stage 1 >__<
How many more years before lap one TT Zero times can beat out ICE lap 3-6 times? Or is it even possible with this track?
How many more years before these bikes can do two laps?
All the current results are here: http://www.iomtt.com/TT-Info/Results-2015.aspx (http://www.iomtt.com/TT-Info/Results-2015.aspx)
Its a 37 mile track, all the Superbikes and Supersports have to refuel every two laps, heck Huchinson nearly lost it on the last couple of corners of the Superstock race because his bike starved in a corner near the end, and ran wide as a result. The elevation changes on this course are fairly tough, and the course is notably fast and unforgiving. Where as Pikes Peak favours EV's, the Snaefell Mountain course is a real challenge for any bike.
Yeah, I was listening to McGuinness (McPint) give an interview at the end of the race, and you could tell he was gutted that he did'nt break the 120mph barrier, he knew that mistake likely cost him the prestige of breaking that barrier. While Guy Martin may have come fourth, someone snapped a picture of him with the biggest shit eating EV grin you have ever seen. He had fun.
The next set of lap times to aim for now are the Superstocks (Race Ready 650cc) these tend to turn in 125>128mph laps, getting to the Supersports and the Superbikes will be tougher as they hit 132mph laps.
However the bikes are getting quicker, to quote McPint,
"You used to be able to keep your flask and sandwiches handy on the tank but not any more. You really have to be on it and make sure you get your racing lines right."
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Guy Martin getting off his Victory...
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/10448685_10152840424010443_7046736409122515654_o.jpg)
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McGuiness wins it at 18:58.743 ; 119.279 mph...
111.62 mph for the Victory bike, that's really respectable.
It's a fantastic showing for their first race at the TT since 2009. McGuiness on the Mugen bike did a 109 mph lap on Mugen's second year. Hopefully not a one-off effort from Victory, it'd be nice to see them continue this in a later year.
I Really really do hope they come back, with Motorcysz out of the picture at the moment, the Mugens are dominating the field, and more teams are needed to challange them.
MotoCzysz might be back next year. I'm pulling for that, of course because I'd love to see MotoCzysz back on track, but more so because it will hopefully mean Michael Czysz is back in good health.
https://twitter.com/MotoCzysz/status/608514531606679552
Hoping to make #theReturn in 2016! #win #newlaprecord! Good luck to all in 2015! Love and miss the IOM! Save me a rm and a cuppa 2016!
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MotoCzysz, Victory and Mugen all together at the TT, Bliss...
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Guy Martin getting off his Victory...
Earlier in the week Guy Martin stepped in to run the qualification lap having not ridden electric before... he deserves a big "THANKS!"
The interview after that lap was a highlight to me.
That "post-first-electric" smile we all have seen or done before - grinning ear to ear and glancing in wonder back at the bike. Guy's nearly incomprehensible (to my American ear) accent giddy chatter about the bike, with the "it just goes dunnit it" being recognizable and then more giddy chatter.
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Guy Martin getting off his Victory...
Earlier in the week Guy Martin stepped in to run the qualification lap having not ridden electric before... he deserves a big "THANKS!"
The interview after that lap was a highlight to me.
That "post-first-electric" smile we all have seen or done before - grinning ear to ear and glancing in wonder back at the bike. Guy's nearly incomprehensible (to my American ear) accent giddy chatter about the bike, with the "it just goes dunnit it" being recognizable and then more giddy chatter.
Always worth listening to Guy, he is as mad as a fruitbat, I'm mean seriously friggin nuts, but he has a real tendency to say exactly what he is thinking. (he's a real PR nightmare by all accounts) So if he likes the bikes, he probably means it.
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Guy Martin getting off his Victory...
Earlier in the week Guy Martin stepped in to run the qualification lap having not ridden electric before... he deserves a big "THANKS!"
The interview after that lap was a highlight to me.
That "post-first-electric" smile we all have seen or done before - grinning ear to ear and glancing in wonder back at the bike. Guy's nearly incomprehensible (to my American ear) accent giddy chatter about the bike, with the "it just goes dunnit it" being recognizable and then more giddy chatter.
Is there any video of the interview? I'm at work at the moment, but last night I was searching for video of the laps or interview and couldn't find anything except the after race press conference with John McGuinness and Lee Johnston.