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Brian,
 Thanks for requesting logs, I'm not to good at this kinda stuff- but I tried to paste the relevant time frame of when it happened.
Thanks again for looking, Matt

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06969     06/03/2017 09:13:33   Calex 720W Charger 0 Disconnected   
 06970     06/03/2017 09:13:33   Calex 1200W Charger 1 Disconnected   
 06971                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External   
 06972                       0   Power On                   Key Switch
 06973                       0   Key On   
 06974                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode   
 06975                       0   Module 00                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 06976                       0   Module 01                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 06977                       0   Module 01 CAN Link Up   
 06978                       0   Module 01                  serial: 16sg2324,  vmod: 115.86V
 06979     06/03/2017 09:18:39   Module 00 CAN Link Up   
 06980     06/03/2017 09:18:39   Module 00                  serial: 16sg2327,  vmod: 115.839V
 06981     06/03/2017 09:20:40   Module 00 CAN Link Down   
 06982     06/03/2017 09:20:40   Module 00 CAN Link Up   
 06983     06/03/2017 09:20:40   Sevcon Turned On   
 06984     06/03/2017 09:20:41   Sevcon CAN Link Up   
 06985     06/03/2017 09:20:41   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.   
 06986     06/03/2017 09:20:41   Module 00                  vmod: 115.829 maxsys: 115.835 minsys: 115.833 diff: 0.002 vcap: 102.187 prechg: 88%
 06987     06/03/2017 09:20:41   Module 01                  vmod: 115.851 maxsys: 115.835 minsys: 115.833 diff: 0.002 vcap: 102.187 prechg: 88%
 06988     06/03/2017 09:20:41   DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Closed   
 06989     06/03/2017 09:20:41   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 06990     06/03/2017 09:20:41   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   
 06991     06/03/2017 09:20:42   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed   
 06992     06/03/2017 09:20:49   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:115.841V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  28C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 3849km
 06993     06/03/2017 09:21:49   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:115.803V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  30C, CtrlTemp:  17C, AmbTemp:  18C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 3849km
 06994     06/03/2017 09:21:51   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode   
 06995     06/03/2017 09:21:51   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect   
 06996     06/03/2017 09:22:49   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:115.665V, MotAmps: -14, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  28C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM: 892, Odo: 3849km
 06997     06/03/2017 09:23:49   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:115.528V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  32C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 3850km
 06998     06/03/2017 09:24:49   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:115.511V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  33C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 3850km
 06999     06/03/2017 09:25:49   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:115.499V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  33C, CtrlTemp:  19C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 3850km
 07000     06/03/2017 09:26:49   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:115.388V, MotAmps:   5, BattAmps:   1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  30C, CtrlTemp:  20C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM: 380, Odo: 3850km
 07001     06/03/2017 09:27:49   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC:100%, Vpack:115.308V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  33C, CtrlTemp:  20C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 3850km
 07002     06/03/2017 09:28:49   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 99%, Vpack:115.109V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  32C, CtrlTemp:  21C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM:1421, Odo: 3851km
 07003     06/03/2017 09:29:49   Riding                     PackTemp: h 23C, l 23C, PackSOC: 99%, Vpack:114.497V, MotAmps:  77, BattAmps:  18, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  32C, CtrlTemp:  21C, AmbTemp:  19C, MotRPM: 832, Odo: 3851km
 07004     06/03/2017 09:30:18   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40 Sevcon Error Code: 0x46c3, Data: 0x04 0x01 0x00 , Unknown
 07005     06/03/2017 09:30:18   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x   0, Error Reg: 0x00 Sevcon Error Code: 0x46c3, Data: 0x00 0x00 0x99 , Unknown
 07006     06/03/2017 09:30:18   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40 Sevcon Error Code: 0x46c3, Data: 0x04 0x02 0x00 , Unknown
 07007     06/03/2017 09:30:18   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x   0, Error Reg: 0x00 Sevcon Error Code: 0x46c3, Data: 0x00 0x00 0x99 , Unknown
 07008     06/03/2017 09:30:18   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40 Sevcon Error Code: 0x52c3, Data: 0x00 0x00 0x00 , Unknown
 07009     06/03/2017 09:30:18   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x40 Sevcon Error Code: 0x46c3, Data: 0x0c 0x10 0x00 , Unknown
 07010     06/03/2017 09:30:18   Restarting Sevcon to clear cutout fault   
 07011     06/03/2017 09:30:18   Module 00                  vmod: 112.127V, batt curr: 65498A
 07012     06/03/2017 09:30:18   Module 01                  vmod: 112.156V, batt curr: 65506A
 07013     06/03/2017 09:30:19   Sevcon Turned Off   
 07014     06/03/2017 09:30:19   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive OFF   
 07015     06/03/2017 09:30:19   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Open   
 07016     06/03/2017 09:30:19   DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Open   
 07017     06/03/2017 09:30:19   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x3100, Error Reg: 0x44 Sevcon Error Code: 0x45c5, Data: 0x07 0x07 0x00 , Unknown
 07018     06/03/2017 09:30:19   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x2000, Error Reg: 0x46 Sevcon Error Code: 0x54c1, Data: 0x00 0x00 0x02 , Unknown
 07019     06/03/2017 09:30:19   INFO:  Bmvolts: 42000, Cmvolts: 127875, Amps: 0, RPM: 5353   
 07020     06/03/2017 09:30:20   Sevcon Turned On   
 07021     06/03/2017 09:30:20   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.   
 07022     06/03/2017 09:30:20   Sevcon CAN Link Down   
 07023     06/03/2017 09:30:21   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x3100, Error Reg: 0x04 Sevcon Error Code: 0x45c5, Data: 0x07 0x07 0x00 , Unknown
 07024     06/03/2017 09:30:21   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x2000, Error Reg: 0x06 Sevcon Error Code: 0x54c1, Data: 0x00 0x00 0x02 , Unknown
 07025     06/03/2017 09:30:21   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x5000, Error Reg: 0x46 Sevcon Error Code: 0x46c3, Data: 0x00 0x00 0x00 , Unknown
 07026     06/03/2017 09:30:21   Sevcon CAN Link Up   
 07027     06/03/2017 09:30:21   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive OFF   
 07028     06/03/2017 09:30:21   INFO:  Bmvolts: 110125, Cmvolts: 123562, Amps: 0, RPM: 0   
 07029     06/03/2017 09:30:21   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x3100, Error Reg: 0x46 Sevcon Error Code: 0x45c8, Data: 0x07 0xbc 0x78 , Unknown
 07030     06/03/2017 09:30:21   INFO:  Bmvolts: 110250, Cmvolts: 123437, Amps: 0, RPM: 0   
 07031     06/03/2017 09:30:22   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x   0, Error Reg: 0x42 Sevcon Error Code: 0x45c8, Data: 0xc1 0x54 0x22 , Unknown
 07032     06/03/2017 09:30:22   INFO:  Bmvolts: 110187, Cmvolts: 119875, Amps: 0, RPM: 0   
 07033     06/03/2017 09:30:22   SEVCON CAN EMCY Frame      Error Code: 0x   0, Error Reg: 0x42 Sevcon Error Code: 0x45c5, Data: 0xc1 0x54 0x3e , Unknown
 07034     06/03/2017 09:30:22   INFO:  Bmvolts: 110312, Cmvolts: 119062, Amps: 0, RPM: 0   
 07035     06/03/2017 09:30:23   Contactor Welded   
 07036     06/03/2017 09:30:23   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 07037     06/03/2017 09:30:23   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   
 07038     06/03/2017 09:30:23   Module 00                  vmod: 111.011V, batt curr: 65533A
 07039     06/03/2017 09:30:23   Module 01                  vmod: 111.156V, batt curr: 65533A
 07040     06/03/2017 09:30:26   Power Off                  Key Switch
 07041     06/03/2017 09:30:26   Sevcon Turned Off   
 07042     06/03/2017 09:30:26   Module 00                  vmod: 111.416V, batt curr: 65533A
 07043     06/03/2017 09:30:26   Module 01                  vmod: 111.558V, batt curr: 65533A
 07044                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External   
 07045                       0   Power On                   Key Switch
 07046                       0   Key On   
 07047                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode   
 07048                       0   Module 00                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 07049                       0   Module 01                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 07050                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode   
 07051                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode   
 07052                       0   Module 00 CAN Link Up   
 07053                       0   Module 00                  serial: 16sg2327,  vmod: 111.92V
 07054     06/03/2017 09:30:32   Module 01                  serial: 16sg2324,  vmod: 112.056V
 07055     06/03/2017 09:30:32   Module 01 CAN Link Up   
 07056     06/03/2017 09:30:32   Sevcon Turned On   
 07057     06/03/2017 09:30:33   Sevcon CAN Link Up   
 07058     06/03/2017 09:30:34   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.   
 07059     06/03/2017 09:30:34   Module 00                  vmod: 112.021 maxsys: 111.859 minsys: 111.787 diff: 0.072 vcap: 100.312 prechg: 89%
 07060     06/03/2017 09:30:34   Module 01                  vmod: 112.142 maxsys: 111.859 minsys: 111.787 diff: 0.072 vcap: 100.312 prechg: 89%
 07061     06/03/2017 09:30:34   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed   
 07062     06/03/2017 09:30:34   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 07063     06/03/2017 09:30:34   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   
 07064     06/03/2017 09:30:34   DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Closed   
 07065     06/03/2017 09:30:40   Power Off                  Key Switch
 07066     06/03/2017 09:30:40   Sevcon Turned Off   
 07067     06/03/2017 09:30:40   Module 00                  vmod: 112.378V, batt curr: 65533A
 07068     06/03/2017 09:30:40   Module 01                  vmod: 112.412V, batt curr: 65534A
 07069     06/03/2017 09:30:40   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 07070     06/03/2017 09:30:40   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   
 07071                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External   
 07072                       0   Power On                   Key Switch
 07073                       0   Key On   
 07074                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode   
 07075                       0   Module 00                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 07076                       0   Module 01                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 07077                       0   Module 00 CAN Link Up   
 07078                       0   Module 01 CAN Link Up   
 07079                       0   Module 00                  serial: 16sg2327,  vmod: 113.017V
 07080     06/03/2017 09:31:00   Module 01                  serial: 16sg2324,  vmod: 113.136V
 07081     06/03/2017 09:31:00   Sevcon Turned On   
 07082     06/03/2017 09:31:01   Sevcon CAN Link Up   
 07083     06/03/2017 09:31:02   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.   
 07084     06/03/2017 09:31:02   Module 00                  vmod: 113.051 maxsys: 113.16 minsys: 113.04 diff: 0.120 vcap: 101.187 prechg: 89%
 07085     06/03/2017 09:31:02   Module 01                  vmod: 113.16 maxsys: 113.16 minsys: 113.04 diff: 0.120 vcap: 101.187 prechg: 89%
 07086     06/03/2017 09:31:02   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed   
 07087     06/03/2017 09:31:02   DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Closed   
 07088     06/03/2017 09:31:02   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 07089     06/03/2017 09:31:02   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   
 07090     06/03/2017 09:31:10   Disarmed                   PackTemp: h 25C, l 25C, PackSOC: 90%, Vpack:113.258V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   0, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  47C, CtrlTemp:  22C, AmbTemp:  18C, MotRPM:1569, Odo: 3852km
 07091     06/03/2017 09:31:27   Power Off                  Key Switch
 07092     06/03/2017 09:31:27   Sevcon Turned Off   
 07093     06/03/2017 09:31:27   Module 00                  vmod: 113.473V, batt curr: 0A
 07094     06/03/2017 09:31:27   Module 01                  vmod: 113.498V, batt curr: 0A
 07095     06/03/2017 09:31:27   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 07096     06/03/2017 09:31:27   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   
 07097                       0   DEBUG: Reset: Power-On, External   
 07098                       0   Power On                   Key Switch
 07099                       0   Key On   
 07100                       0   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from None mode to Stopped mode   
 07101                       0   Module 00                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 07102                       0   Module 01                  vmod: 0V, batt curr: 0A
 07103                       0   Module 00 CAN Link Up   
 07104                       0   Module 00                  serial: 16sg2327,  vmod: 113.543V
 07105     06/03/2017 09:31:33   Module 01                  serial: 16sg2324,  vmod: 113.63V
 07106     06/03/2017 09:31:33   Module 01 CAN Link Up   
 07107     06/03/2017 09:31:33   Sevcon Turned On   
 07108     06/03/2017 09:31:34   CAN1 BIT0 error. count=1   
 07109     06/03/2017 09:31:34   Sevcon CAN Link Up   
 07110     06/03/2017 09:31:35   DEBUG: Sevcon Contactor Drive ON.   
 07111     06/03/2017 09:31:35   Module 00                  vmod: 113.563 maxsys: 113.649 minsys: 113.637 diff: 0.012 vcap: 101.937 prechg: 89%
 07112     06/03/2017 09:31:35   Module 01                  vmod: 113.638 maxsys: 113.649 minsys: 113.637 diff: 0.012 vcap: 101.937 prechg: 89%
 07113     06/03/2017 09:31:35   DEBUG: Module 01 Contactor is now Closed   
 07114     06/03/2017 09:31:35   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 07115     06/03/2017 09:31:35   INFO:  Enabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   
 07116     06/03/2017 09:31:35   DEBUG: Module 00 Contactor is now Closed   
 07117     06/03/2017 09:31:37   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Stopped mode to Running mode   
 07118     06/03/2017 09:31:37   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect   
 07119     06/03/2017 09:31:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 90%, Vpack:113.664V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   5, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  22C, AmbTemp:  18C, MotRPM:  70, Odo: 3852km
 07120     06/03/2017 09:32:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 90%, Vpack:112.875V, MotAmps:  90, BattAmps:  27, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  43C, CtrlTemp:  22C, AmbTemp:  18C, MotRPM: 855, Odo: 3853km
 07121     06/03/2017 09:33:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 89%, Vpack:113.704V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:   2, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  22C, AmbTemp:  18C, MotRPM:1314, Odo: 3853km
 07122     06/03/2017 09:34:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 89%, Vpack: 110.47V, MotAmps: 159, BattAmps:  84, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  45C, CtrlTemp:  23C, AmbTemp:  18C, MotRPM:1725, Odo: 3853km
 07123     06/03/2017 09:35:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 89%, Vpack:113.653V, MotAmps: -27, BattAmps:  -2, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  44C, CtrlTemp:  22C, AmbTemp:  18C, MotRPM:1398, Odo: 3854km
 07124     06/03/2017 09:36:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 88%, Vpack:110.767V, MotAmps: 257, BattAmps:  71, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  45C, CtrlTemp:  23C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM: 781, Odo: 3854km
 07125     06/03/2017 09:37:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 87%, Vpack:112.801V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:  -3, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  49C, CtrlTemp:  24C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:2386, Odo: 3855km
 07126     06/03/2017 09:38:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 87%, Vpack:109.735V, MotAmps: 148, BattAmps:  93, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  48C, CtrlTemp:  24C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:2097, Odo: 3855km
 07127     06/03/2017 09:39:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:112.665V, MotAmps: -18, BattAmps:  -1, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  45C, CtrlTemp:  22C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:1945, Odo: 3855km
 07128     06/03/2017 09:40:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 86%, Vpack:111.806V, MotAmps: 241, BattAmps:  34, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  48C, CtrlTemp:  23C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM: 264, Odo: 3856km
 07129     06/03/2017 09:41:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 85%, Vpack:112.391V, MotAmps:   3, BattAmps:   8, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  48C, CtrlTemp:  23C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:1527, Odo: 3856km
 07130     06/03/2017 09:42:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 85%, Vpack:112.677V, MotAmps: -27, BattAmps:  -2, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  48C, CtrlTemp:  24C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:1439, Odo: 3857km
 07131     06/03/2017 09:43:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 84%, Vpack:112.396V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   6, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  50C, CtrlTemp:  22C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM:   0, Odo: 3857km
 07132     06/03/2017 09:44:43   Riding                     PackTemp: h 26C, l 25C, PackSOC: 84%, Vpack:112.389V, MotAmps:   0, BattAmps:   7, Mods: 11, MotTemp:  46C, CtrlTemp:  22C, AmbTemp:  17C, MotRPM: 335, Odo: 3857km
 07133     06/03/2017 09:44:53   DEBUG: Module scheme changed from Running mode to Stopped mode   
 07134     06/03/2017 09:44:53   DEBUG: Module mode Change Does Not Require Disconnect   
 07135     06/03/2017 09:44:56   Power Off                  Key Switch
 07136     06/03/2017 09:44:56   Sevcon Turned Off   
 07137     06/03/2017 09:44:56   Module 00                  vmod: 112.423V, batt curr: 2A
 07138     06/03/2017 09:44:56   Module 01                  vmod: 112.443V, batt curr: 5A
 07139     06/03/2017 09:44:56   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 0 Charger 2   
 07140     06/03/2017 09:44:56   INFO:  Disabling External Chg 1 Charger 3   

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I've had this happen 3 times at WOT, on my '16 FXS. Had complete power loss and would only reset if I came to a complete stop-tried key on/off and power switch cycle while coasting- nothing doin. The only straightaways in my hood (NYC) are bridges and that's were its happened every time. Definitely a complete bummer, and yes terrifying because I had to coast half the bridge to a small turnoff. Might be a deal breaker on this bike, but everything else I love about it. Please post if anyone has ideas about this.
I called Zero and they said take to dealer which is not so appealing.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: suspension setting
« on: July 06, 2016, 12:06:20 AM »
Have anyone tested what might be a good setting for the suspension settings for lightweight riders on an 2015 SR?

I'm only 66kg, while the bike should be adjusted for 82 kg by default.

Without much experience (this being my first bike*) i believe my suspension should be smoother, so i today i tried softening 1 step (on all compression+rebound) which didn't seem to make much difference. I also noticed that the "M1"** value on the front (didn't check the rear today) was 152mm while the manual says it should be 105mm (!). I wonder how this may have passed factory tests- is this a common value being almost 50% off spec? I also wonder how it could get this much off, or if having it at this height may be dangerous (i have not touched the preload myself yet). Now the bike was a demo bike before i got it, so it could be adjusted for some tall person (i'm only moderately tall 181 cm/ but i have long legs, so the height is not an issue to me).

* my only comparison would be the mc-school bike that i used during training for my license..
** M1 refers to the bottom of the fork tube to the bottom of the tube's dust seal in the 2015 SR manual page 4.17.

The sag itself was probably less than 20mm (while it should be 45) so i am pondering on adjusting the spring preload, the compression and rebound dampening. The question is whether my measurment may be wrong? It seems pretty straight forward, however i do not wan't to mess things up and it is the first time i try..  :P

In general, how much adjustment may be required to achieve something near specc, and how will this influence the behavior of the bike...

 For your first (OR ANY) bike you DESERVE correctly set up suspension-it really is a huge issue.
As far as sag adjustment, like others have posted, see if you can take off preload with the adjuster on the top of the fork, 19mm hex. Too much preload will increase the M1 "topped out" measurement, as sounds like its running too high on your bike.
 If you still can't get an acceptable sag (and with the preload adjuster on 0 turns out), cutting down the spacer is a possibility. That would require removing and disassembling the forks somewhat. I cut off (actually made shorter ones) 10mm/.4 " and that was satisfactory- but I weigh 200lbs with gear and my fork travel of my FXS is more than the SR. You might have to totally take apart the fork to get a better idea of what "factory installed preload" is for the SR. (I am have a suspicion all Showa does to alter the 41mm forks between the Zero models is change the spring rate/spring length and preload spacers- I def could be wrong about this.) By measuring the set length and then noting the difference between what 0 preload is on a topped out fork, and then what they add to their spacers, I found on the FXS they added 15mm which is normal for street bikes, but a little much for supermoto style forks. I was aiming for 5mm.
 All that being said, you might just need softer spring rate for your weight. I have found Race Tech to be the guys, and Maria from Zero said they have developed valving and springs that fit the Zero line. There are other suspension/spring guys out there as well that Zero owners have posted about.
Its really worth sorting it out so you feel confident in any speed and/or conditions.


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I did not talk with my dealership - I really see no point discussing it with them, since the suspension is what it is. I'm sure Zero is aware of the settings. I might still mention it to the dealer if I drive by to pick-up some tools from them. They should probably report it to Zero, but I don't want them messing with my suspension.

I did end-up with adjustments that I think are quite satisfactory for me. Unfortunately, I lost track of the # of clicks on each setting. I may go check on that soon, but right now I do not know. What matters is that I'm quite happy with the setup at up to below highway speeds. At high speed I think the shocks do not react fast enough and bumps can be a bit harsh, but not terrible.

I'd be interested to reduce the preload on the front even further if I ever get to take the forks apart, but that would be a winter project if I even get to it.

Kocho
Please let me know what you end up with.
My S seems really harsh in normal street riding.
Kocho,
 Yeah I could give you more detailed instructions for what I did, just PM me if you want. FYI to just replace the spacers there's no need to drain the oil. I drained it in one fork so I could measure the springs and set length. I totally understand your feelings about a dealer or a suspension shop, that was the same motivation I had for the DIY. Also the only info I got through ZERO was about fork oil level which I included above. Maria from ZERO mentioned that RACE TECH has some valving and spring options (not on their website though) but I didn't want to spend $$ so soon on a brand new bike. Good luck, Matt

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Prob  little over 200 lbs.

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For anyone interested, I took measurements to the disassembled fork to find the set length and preload that the stock spacer has. I came up with a figure of 15mm preload that the forks have without any added from the adjuster at the top.This is basically how the bike arrives stock. This is a normal for street bikes but probably is a little much for a supermoto style fork with more fork travel. My aim was for 5mm of preload. Instead of cutting down the stock spacers, I bought new aluminum tubing - 1.25" OD, 1.18" ID, .035" wall thickness. This was flow rated tubing with no seam, and fit perfectly into the plastic spacer end caps that bookend the preload spacer. I have access to a toolroom lathe and a mill, so I was able to fab new ones that were shorter by about 10mm or .4". I added the holes for the spring compressor that is needed to get the fork cap off/on and rebound damper rod out. I put everything back together and added fork oil to the specs of 141 mm from outer tube (spring removed) and amount is 440±2.5 cc. I've been riding it around (with stock rebound and compression settings) and it doesn't pack at high speeds over bumps anymore. I put a zip tie on the stanchion to get an idea of fork travel and I haven't got even close to bottoming out yet- although I haven't hit any NYC death potholes.

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This is the preload spacer. Length is 8.718" I'm gonna either cut about 1" off or fab shorter ones so I can keep these stock ones. I'll let you guys know if that gets the preload into shape. From reading that other "forks way too stiff" post seems the measuring the oil level on these shocks is PITA- like all the internals have to be out or something. I wonder if there's just an oil volume measurement for these shocks?

before you cut a full inch off the spacer, measure the spring length.
You probably need to change springs. 1" is a ton of preload change.

Yeah thanks I was watching some of Dave Moss's suspension vids on youtube and indeed 1" is a lot.
From what he was saying the preload adjuster on the cap only affects 8-12mm. When I rebuilt the old damper rod Showa forks on my VF, the Race Tech stuff said to cut the preload spacer so everything just reaches the top of the fork tube with the fork fully extended. These USD are different because everything is screwed together and connected through the cartridge/ rebound tube.

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This is the preload spacer. Length is 8.718" I'm gonna either cut about 1" off or fab shorter ones so I can keep these stock ones. I'll let you guys know if that gets the preload into shape. From reading that other "forks way too stiff" post seems the measuring the oil level on these shocks is PITA- like all the internals have to be out or something. I wonder if there's just an oil volume measurement for these shocks?

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This sounds horrible, but since theres no service manual..

Look up service manuals for Honda and older ducati models.. they can be found free online in PDF format, and they show how to service a showa fork.

if it was my bike, I would pull the fork apart and make sure theres no binding, no scuffs on the bushings, etc.
If everything looked good, I would call Factory Connection, and get a set of springs for my weight, and put it all back together.

if I saw any issues, I would still call Factory Connection, but I would ship the forks to them. I dont have any fork tools besides a fork seal seater.

Yeah I did a full rebuild with Race Tech gold valves/springs and new bushings/seals on my '86 honda interceptor. But this cartridge fork is a different beast...If any one wonders the axle is a 17mm Hex.

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 Hey I'm  6'2", 200 lbs and can't get the front sag on the FXS to get anywhere close to the factory spec of 2.36" (60MM). I'm only getting like an 1" of sag. The preload is as loose as it gets-0 turns out which is how it comes from the factory.
I checked it and the rear shock (which was in spec) because I was getting a hash ride at speeds above 60-70 mph like the front was progressively bouncing up, not really confidence inspiring. Anyways I talked to about 3 different people at Zero and got the same "notunderwarrantytakeittothedealer" line- although some girl in engineering, Maria was kinda cute, or at least fun to talk to. She recommended calling Harlan at Hollywood electrics.
I'm having a hard time believing they would sell a bike that can't be put into spec with normal adjustment. Nonetheless i want to get this taken care of- either by new spring, or new preload spacer- I dunno.
 I've never really disassembled a cartridge fork- wondering if anybody had a similar problem or experience with this. Thanks.

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