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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: slant911 on January 19, 2022, 09:41:55 PM
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There are times when I need to get in to the storage box which requires turning the bike off, pulling out the key and opening the box. I thought I saw some time ago a mod to that so that you could get in the box while keeping the key in the ignition. Not sure if it was a push button or modified second key or what. Any leads appreciated.
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Did your bike not come with a second key? Could just get another one made if not. If you don't care about security you can probably find a barrel with a thumb turner that would fit, should be similar to something that would go on a locker.
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Hack in an entire keyless system:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1vdho1gihU
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Did your bike not come with a second key? Could just get another one made if not. If you don't care about security you can probably find a barrel with a thumb turner that would fit, should be similar to something that would go on a locker.
I do have a second key but then would have to remember to take that key with me too. Yes some kind of thumb barrel and a key blank that will not start the bike in the event someone figures out there is a key there. A dummy key if you will. Or complete swap to a pushbutton?
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Hack in an entire keyless system:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1vdho1gihU
Very cool but not prepared to hack the electrical system. He lost me at trickery...
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Did your bike not come with a second key? Could just get another one made if not. If you don't care about security you can probably find a barrel with a thumb turner that would fit, should be similar to something that would go on a locker.
I do have a second key but then would have to remember to take that key with me too. Yes some kind of thumb barrel and a key blank that will not start the bike in the event someone figures out there is a key there. A dummy key if you will. Or complete swap to a pushbutton?
I was talking about replacing the whole barrel, with something like this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401932952823
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I feel your pain ;D, I wish zero had made it a push button lock similar to the ones used on glass patio doors. The lock allows or prevents the button from being pushed that way you have access while on the bike and it can be locked when off. Here’s an example of what I’m talking about:
https://www.siraweb.com/loc-push-button-t960?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI97X6n5fJ9QIVdPDjBx0Xww33EAQYBCABEgKoNvD_BwE
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I feel your pain ;D, I wish zero had made it a push button lock similar to the ones used on glass patio doors. The lock allows or prevents the button from being pushed that way you have access while on the bike and it can be locked when off. Here’s an example of what I’m talking about:
https://www.siraweb.com/loc-push-button-t960?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI97X6n5fJ9QIVdPDjBx0Xww33EAQYBCABEgKoNvD_BwE
Yes something like that would be ideal. Wonder if anyone has tried to R and R.
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I'm confused about how that lock works. Does pushing it in rotate the mechanism? And turning the key prevents it from being pressed (locks it in the out position)?
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It’s a pretty easy fix. Saw it somewhere I just had an extra key made that doesn’t work the ignition. Cut it down and put it in a guitar tuning knob. I leave it in most of the time. I can post pics if needed.
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How was the key modified so that it works on one lock but not the other? Unless the storage lock has one less pin I don't see how that would be possible.
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It’s a pretty easy fix. Saw it somewhere I just had an extra key made that doesn’t work the ignition. Cut it down and put it in a guitar tuning knob. I leave it in most of the time. I can post pics if needed.
So no transmitter in it! Brilliant. Could you post a pic? TIA
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Correct There’s no chip in the key and will not start the bike. There are lots of choices for knobs just search the web. Not difficult to cut down to fit and is secure in place and won’t fall out when riding. I’ll try to attach photos but not having good luck with that.
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Oh I see, I didn't realise the SR/F had a transmitter in the key. Don't know why bikes do that, sucks if you want to get a replacement made.
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Correct There’s no chip in the key and will not start the bike. There are lots of choices for knobs just search the web. Not difficult to cut down to fit and is secure in place and won’t fall out when riding. I’ll try to attach photos but not having good luck with that.
Awesome. Thank You.
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I did this very shortly after getting my 2020 DSR...
Put in a combo cam lock with matching cylinder diameter. <--- Matching the cylinder diameter is important so that the lock fits in the hold for the existing lock.
It was a lock like these: https://www.amazon.com/Kitmose-Combination-Password-Combi-Cam-Important/dp/B08YR334C4/ref=asc_df_B08YR334C4/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=507816205664&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=5195635333620930138&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012119&hvtargid=pla-1226701985003&psc=1
NOTE - I don't know that those linked will match the existing lock cylinder diameter per se, so you'd have to measure. (Not a biggie if if's off / wrong, of course, as they are so cheap.) I just used the existing cam / arm (these are universal for these style locks - they just differ in terms of length), so you'll not have to worry there when finding a lock.
Soooo convenient to not have to deal with the key all the time to get in and out of storage.
-Scott
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That's a cool one, didn't know those exist. Probably not ideal for me when I ride in the rain and my bike gets left outside at work but could work for those in dryer climates (or does the original rubber cap stay securely on that new lock?).
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Brilliant set of answers.
I'm afraid I bodged mine almost as soon as I got he bike: Its clear nonsense to stop the bike to open either tank or tail space when out and about. I removed the keyways from the lock (apart from the end one which holds the barrel in) and found a key that was a stiff fit, so they are always unlocked.
Security not an issue for me because a) I've got a chargetank and b) the tail seat holds my permanently connected charging leads (a la remmie)
This is what I joined the forum for!
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Hello,
Maybe a stupid suggestion ...
But as S/DS/FX do not have a 12V battery and as once the key is off there's no power at all, could it be possible to install a electric/magnetic lock ?
Just place the control button on the handlebar or on the storage box itself. It will only open if the bike is "started" and will become totally ineffective if the key is not present or on off position.
Correct ?
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That's a cool one, didn't know those exist. Probably not ideal for me when I ride in the rain and my bike gets left outside at work but could work for those in dryer climates (or does the original rubber cap stay securely on that new lock?).
I faintly remember the rubber cap on the old lock. You could probably find one like that, but this lock is sealed pretty well (I might have added a rubber piece to ensure that, but can't recall as it was so long ago now). I've never had a probably with water leaking in (and I've ridden in the rain as well and had the bike on my truck when hauling an it got wet for hours).
As I said, it's a minor investment and if you buy and it doesn't work you can send it back. (I have done a few locks like this for my Jeep, toolboxes, etc - things where I just didn't want to have to fish through my already oversized key ring to find the right key. Seemed this was just about the best case for that issue and I'm surprised that Zero didn't offer that as upgrade / accessory, TBH.)
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That's a cool one, didn't know those exist. Probably not ideal for me when I ride in the rain and my bike gets left outside at work but could work for those in dryer climates (or does the original rubber cap stay securely on that new lock?).
I faintly remember the rubber cap on the old lock. You could probably find one like that, but this lock is sealed pretty well (I might have added a rubber piece to ensure that, but can't recall as it was so long ago now). I've never had a probably with water leaking in (and I've ridden in the rain as well and had the bike on my truck when hauling an it got wet for hours).
As I said, it's a minor investment and if you buy and it doesn't work you can send it back. (I have done a few locks like this for my Jeep, toolboxes, etc - things where I just didn't want to have to fish through my already oversized key ring to find the right key. Seemed this was just about the best case for that issue and I'm surprised that Zero didn't offer that as upgrade / accessory, TBH.)
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I was more worried about corrosion making the lock hard to operate than water actually getting inside the storage compartment. The place I work uses combination padlocks that are exposed to the elements and they can become hard to operate sometimes, and those are designed for the conditions. Having a closer look through the listing I see that they say it's supposed to be weather proof and rust resistant so perhaps it would last.
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That's a cool one, didn't know those exist. Probably not ideal for me when I ride in the rain and my bike gets left outside at work but could work for those in dryer climates (or does the original rubber cap stay securely on that new lock?).
I faintly remember the rubber cap on the old lock. You could probably find one like that, but this lock is sealed pretty well (I might have added a rubber piece to ensure that, but can't recall as it was so long ago now). I've never had a probably with water leaking in (and I've ridden in the rain as well and had the bike on my truck when hauling an it got wet for hours).
As I said, it's a minor investment and if you buy and it doesn't work you can send it back. (I have done a few locks like this for my Jeep, toolboxes, etc - things where I just didn't want to have to fish through my already oversized key ring to find the right key. Seemed this was just about the best case for that issue and I'm surprised that Zero didn't offer that as upgrade / accessory, TBH.)
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I was more worried about corrosion making the lock hard to operate than water actually getting inside the storage compartment. The place I work uses combination padlocks that are exposed to the elements and they can become hard to operate sometimes, and those are designed for the conditions. Having a closer look through the listing I see that they say it's supposed to be weather proof and rust resistant so perhaps it would last.
Yeah, I hear you on locks not doing well in the elements. (You can't just cut this one away like a pad lock if it gets stuck!) It's such a quick and cheap fix, you could change it out annually, or when the tumblers seems to be stiffening up, and still have less inconvenience than having to mess with an extra key. Mine is doing just fine after over a year's time.
99% sure this is the lock (size) I used: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W7DBWA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And there is a dust cover that can be put on (which I just ordered myself, actually): https://smile.amazon.com/Frank-J-Martin-7850-DC-Combi/dp/B004ONNA42/ref=pd_bxgy_1/134-0011743-8395275?pd_rd_w=2wndu&pf_rd_p=6b3eefea-7b16-43e9-bc45-2e332cbf99da&pf_rd_r=JCKCVY775V1ZKM8DZ5E4&pd_rd_r=494b1d67-359e-4562-898a-1ff990098995&pd_rd_wg=lOd8m&pd_rd_i=B004ONNA42&th=1
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