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Richard230

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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #75 on: October 04, 2021, 03:17:47 AM »

Another photo.
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #76 on: October 04, 2021, 03:18:45 AM »

And one more.  :(
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #77 on: October 04, 2021, 03:19:24 AM »

The weeds seem to be doing well, however.  ::)
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #78 on: October 04, 2021, 07:59:57 AM »

The machine says it will wake with the swipe of the right card.  I don't have one, though.

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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #79 on: October 04, 2021, 11:09:47 AM »

A link in the Hydrogen Highway is being built across from Alice's Restaurant in the Santa Cruz Mountains, south of San Francisco. What a monumental boondoggle!  I have heard that there are just a few H2 cars in all of California and I believe all of those are production prototypes being tested by the auto manufacturers.  I am pretty sure that none are privately owned at this time. 

However, should anyone in the SF Bay Area buy an H2-powered auto, they can always drive up into the mountains to find a filling station, which is being built at great expense by some government agency using taxpayer funds. (Who else would fund something like this?) This complex has been under construction all summer long and is now reaching the point where some of the equipment is being installed.  Attached are photos that I took today and I will post updates as the construction continues until the project is complete and the security fencing is removed. All that equipment just to supply one filling outlet.  :o I have my doubts if I will ever be able to post a hydrogen-powered car filling up at this out-of-the-way station, but if I ever see one, I will let you know.   ;)

Here is a photo of the filling pump.

Soooo 5 years later & your prediction of NOT seeing this facility put to use has come true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Hydrogen_Highway

Here’s a video from early 2015 discussing the future of Hydrogen as an alternate to ICE.


I suppose it can be argued that a change(s) are needed to reduce our dependency on ICE & this spending was necessary.
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #80 on: October 04, 2021, 08:00:49 PM »

It seems to me to be not so much a case of whether or not H2 is a good idea but more a matter of infrastructure cost, maintenance of the equipment and if anyone actually wants to buy H2 powered vehicles. One big advantage to EVs is that they can be recharged at your home while you are not driving it, but you will have to likely travel many miles to access an H2 station, which may not be located along your destination path.
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2021, 04:26:40 PM »

The prop at STP absolutely served its purpose, which was to dupe unaccountable government employees into forking over THREE MILLION DOLLARS of tax receipts to people much cleverer than them.
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #82 on: October 17, 2021, 10:27:57 PM »

The prop at STP absolutely served its purpose, which was to dupe unaccountable government employees into forking over THREE MILLION DOLLARS of tax receipts to people much cleverer than them.
It's exactly the opposite:  It's the result of forking over government money to build out a project.  The station only exists because of the government money, and it shows that only the government has the pockets to actually change and build the infrastructure we need.  Private industry won't do it.

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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #83 on: October 19, 2021, 03:00:12 AM »

The prop at STP absolutely served its purpose, which was to dupe unaccountable government employees into forking over THREE MILLION DOLLARS of tax receipts to people much cleverer than them.
It's exactly the opposite:  It's the result of forking over government money to build out a project.  The station only exists because of the government money, and it shows that only the government has the pockets to actually change and build the infrastructure we need.  Private industry won't do it.

If the station had any merit, I might agree with that. But no, it's a disappointing boondoggle, poorly conceived with no future, a foreseeable waste of our money that could have gone to good use.
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #84 on: October 19, 2021, 03:51:53 AM »

It can be both.

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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #85 on: April 12, 2022, 11:56:31 PM »

I hate to revive this thread, but has this thing ever been operational? I've never seen anyone use it and the one time I went over to check out the pump I don't think it was even working.
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #86 on: April 13, 2022, 04:08:19 AM »

I hate to revive this thread, but has this thing ever been operational? I've never seen anyone use it and the one time I went over to check out the pump I don't think it was even working.

To the best of my knowledge, the H2 station at Sky Londa is not operational and never has been. One likely reason is that no one has leased the facility to operate it. The other reason is that all of the H2 vehicles in the area are located in the flatlands and would be very unlikely to drive up to Skyline Boulevard to refuel when they could get their H2 at stations located between SF and San Jose, along Highway 101 and El Camino Real.
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #87 on: April 13, 2022, 05:59:17 AM »

I hate to revive this thread, but has this thing ever been operational? I've never seen anyone use it and the one time I went over to check out the pump I don't think it was even working.

To the best of my knowledge, the H2 station at Sky Londa is not operational and never has been. One likely reason is that no one has leased the facility to operate it. The other reason is that all of the H2 vehicles in the area are located in the flatlands and would be very unlikely to drive up to Skyline Boulevard to refuel when they could get their H2 at stations located between SF and San Jose, along Highway 101 and El Camino Real.

According to this......  https://cafcp.org/stationmap
it’s due to come on line in a few months 🤣
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #88 on: April 13, 2022, 06:06:47 AM »

I hate to revive this thread, but has this thing ever been operational? I've never seen anyone use it and the one time I went over to check out the pump I don't think it was even working.

To the best of my knowledge, the H2 station at Sky Londa is not operational and never has been. One likely reason is that no one has leased the facility to operate it. The other reason is that all of the H2 vehicles in the area are located in the flatlands and would be very unlikely to drive up to Skyline Boulevard to refuel when they could get their H2 at stations located between SF and San Jose, along Highway 101 and El Camino Real.

According to this......  https://cafcp.org/stationmap
it’s due to come on line in a few months 🤣

I'll believe it when I see it.  ::)  If the station opens, I will be the first to post photos of it here.  ;)
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Re: The Hydrogen Highway
« Reply #89 on: August 17, 2023, 07:06:04 PM »

This is an interesting news report regarding what happened when a Hyundai Tucson H2 owner's car stopped and he found out how much it would cost to repair it's dead fuel cell:  https://www.thedrive.com/news/hyundai-tucson-fcev-owner-shocked-by-113k-repair-bill-for-hydrogen-fuel-cell

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