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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero S 6.5 owner's review
« on: September 11, 2017, 10:16:22 PM »
Rode to work this morning with the goal of maximizing mileage.  The trip is 17.7 miles, about 10 of which is freeway.  I kept my speed below 50 on the freeway, averaging I'm guessing 44.  (On this stretch of 101 from Marin to SF, you can do this without annoying too many people.)  Went easy on accelerations and did a "California Roll" through stop signs.  Arrived with 83% remaining, which means a range of 104 miles, a personal best.  Zero's rating is 81 miles.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Zero ZF6.5 DS review
« on: June 01, 2017, 04:32:41 AM »
EVs are good for tasks like commuting where you have a defined route with well-understood variations.  Let's say 80% route, 20% variations, can work well.  Courier duty is 0% route and 100% variations.

I don't think they're helping the EV cause by picking an obviously inappropriate application and then writing an article about why it's an inappropriate application.  They're doing just the opposite.

But they do acknowledge the virtues of the 6.5. It's light, it's quick, and you can put a gallon  of milk and loaf of bread under the seat.   

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Sorry I missed it.  It was a possibility up to the last minute, but then my wife's plans for taking the kids to a friend's house fell through, and I got bogged down in the usual toddler/baby weekend quagmire.  Kind of par for the course these days, but disappointing nonetheless.

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Not to be negative nelly, but forecast is for a beautiful sunny day this Saturday.  At 10:30 that road is going to be fairly busy with minivans and SUVs driving to Stinson Beach.  Tough road to pass on because so twisty.  This is my backyard riding course, but generally I only ride it on weekdays. 

I'm sure it will be a nice ride regardless, but maybe a little slower than folks would ideally want.

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I'll try to make it.  Normally on a Saturday I don't get 3 hours off from the rug rats but for this I might get permission.

I live in Larkspur so even with the S 6.5 I should be able to do the circuit on a charge.

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I just got my recall notice. 

ABS on my S has already saved my bacon once.  A few weeks ago I was commuting home across the Golden Gate Bridge and took my eyes off the road for a brief moment to take in the sunset.  Eyes back and cars have stopped.  Braked hard, ABS kicked in, no skidding or weaving . . . bacon saved.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Yet Another Zero S 6.5 Review
« on: February 10, 2017, 02:04:59 AM »
I'm about to add a Moto Guzzi to my garage.  Happy to admit cult behavior when I'm in fact guilty of it.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Yet Another Zero S 6.5 Review
« on: February 10, 2017, 12:49:17 AM »

I'll try to get one of our interns to reply to some of the intelligent points.

Yes, preferably one who has never ridden a motorcycle.  That would really elevate the entertainment value of this thread.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Yet Another Zero S 6.5 Review
« on: February 10, 2017, 12:44:52 AM »
The word "cult" is being used far too loosely here.  I don't know how someone can read this forum and conclude there is a "cult" at work.  The folks who regularly post here tend to be a very savvy and critical bunch.  I see none of the irrationality or abdication of critical reasoning that one normally associates with cult behavior (and which, just in case anyone needs an example, is so prominently on display in the current political state of this country).

My Zero is incredibly useful to me.  It does what I ask of it far better than a car, and ICE bike, or a scooter could.  It's ugly and devoid of personality.  There's nothing but rationality in my choice to ride it.  Nothing could be further from cult behavior.




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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Yet Another Zero S 6.5 Review
« on: February 04, 2017, 02:06:49 AM »
I'm not sure what could be confusing about the range claims.  They give you figures for "city," "highway at 55," "highway at 70," and "combined."  All are quite accurate as far as I can tell.

If you're saying the falsehood was in something a salesperson said to you, well, that's a different story.  My advice to you would be to take anything a salesperson says with a pound of salt.

There's a certain amount of due diligence anyone should do before shopping for an EV.  The fact that range and speed are inversely related is easy to discover.

But the important thing is, your Zero works for you!

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Yet Another Zero S 6.5 Review
« on: February 03, 2017, 09:57:31 PM »
penetrantic

That's not a word.  But it should be.   :D

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Yet Another Zero S 6.5 Review
« on: February 02, 2017, 10:14:22 PM »
This thread has a fictional air about it from the beginning.  Sort of like someone having fun by saying "I've got a bunch of money I might give to your favorite company but, oops, no, you didn't convince me the product is good enough." 

The best way to evaluate the Zero is to compare it to an ICE bike in an actual commute scenario over a substantial period of time.  How it benefits you in the context of a day in day out grind is where the real value is -- the kind of value that should draw in more users if they only could experience it themselves.  That's my opinion. 

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Yet Another Zero S 6.5 Review
« on: January 31, 2017, 11:27:29 PM »
If the original poster came here for fact checking, I hope he accomplished some of that.  His estimate that the range is 20-30% less than represented is clearly wrong, though we can't rule out that there is something wrong with his particular bike.

I don't really get the "advocacy," and "defense of purchase" comments.  I think the Zero is a great product.  I'm happy to tell anyone why.  If someone who doesn't even have a motorcycle license and just bought one pops up on the internet with a few obvious criticisms (the seat is thin, etc . . .), am i suddenly "defending my purchase"?  I don't think so.  I think I'm just continuing to describe a great product. 

Is it an unfair ad hominem attack to bring up the motorcycle license?  I don't think so.  If I was a potential investor, I'd want a review from an experienced motorcyclist, someone who has logged tens of thousands of miles on many different bike.  I'm making an assumption here, but my guess anyone like that has an M license.

Should anyone invest in an electric motorcycle company?  I have no idea.  They obviously haven't caught on to any great extent.  It's a shame, because having owned 3 of them I think they're the greatest thing since sliced bread.  I've spent a lot of my own money on them because in my mind there is no better way to commute.  I tell people this all the time because it's the truth.  And they're just getting better.  what's not to be excited about?

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Yet Another Zero S 6.5 Review
« on: January 31, 2017, 09:56:30 PM »
I had my S 6.5 mostly in eco mode for the first week just to make sure I had enough range for my daily rounds (I do, easily).  Yesterday put it in sport mode in the city.  What a blast this bike is as a streetfighter.  A teeny bit sluggish off the line compared to my erstwhile Empulse.  But so light and flickable, and acceleration from 20 to 40 makes carving up traffic so easy and an absolute joy.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Yet Another Zero S 6.5 Review
« on: January 31, 2017, 12:05:38 AM »
I rode my S 6.5 in to work this morning.  17.7 miles, of which 7-9 of that is freeway (sort of depends on what you count as "freeway").  Because I'm still feeling out the range, I've been keeping my freeway speeds at between 50-55 mph.  I arrived at work with 76% charge.

It was a bit warmer this morning than it has been, but still cool, low 50's, so range is at least slightly diminished du to that.

I can't tell if the original poster took the appropriate factors into account in his range estimates.  My S 6.5 seems to be tracking specifications.

The seat is threadbare.  It's an EV, so it doesn't need an all day comfortable seat.  I don't see this as a major fault.

Stock mirrors are not great, but that's true of a great many motorcycles.  I put on CRG diamonds and the problem solved.  Bike looks much less wonky now too.

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