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Title: Cumberland Falls State Park trip on a Zero
Post by: Emtkopan on May 21, 2017, 05:31:16 AM
I met some friends this weekend to ride the twisties in Kentucky. Yesterday I did 124 miles with a three stops to plug in into 110V for about 15min each which netted me an extra 5-10% each time. I stayed in Eco mode the entire time too. Today I did a total of 162 miles with two stops to recharge off 110V. The first got me from 20 to 34% and the second from 10 to 15%. It died with 1 mile left to get to my destination. Granted it was uphill. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170520/fe97d3fda13cee6a4455dba20e3dd6f7.jpg)
Title: Re: Cumberland Falls State Park trip on a Zero
Post by: Shadow on May 22, 2017, 12:46:49 PM
The most I've gone without charging on a 2016 DSR ZF13.0 is 169mi, average speed about 40mph and a drop in elevation of about a mile. Dialing down the torque, keeping average speeds under 40mph, and no throttle-off regen (brake regen only) helps a lot to extend range.
Title: Re: Cumberland Falls State Park trip on a Zero
Post by: togo on May 23, 2017, 03:54:20 AM
The most I've gone without charging on a 2016 DSR ZF13.0 is 169mi, average speed about 40mph and a drop in elevation of about a mile. Dialing down the torque, keeping average speeds under 40mph, and no throttle-off regen (brake regen only) helps a lot to extend range.

Does dialing down the torque actually help that much?  I don't see much difference between custom/85% and eco/50% (IIRC) on my 2014 SR, but setting top speed limiter or holding speed down by hand seems like a much bigger deal.  Terry's record on an unaltered Zero was a beach-park dog-park day where he averaged 25mph, I seem to recall.
Title: Re: Cumberland Falls State Park trip on a Zero
Post by: anton on May 23, 2017, 07:30:18 AM
The most I've gone without charging on a 2016 DSR ZF13.0 is 169mi, average speed about 40mph and a drop in elevation of about a mile. Dialing down the torque, keeping average speeds under 40mph, and no throttle-off regen (brake regen only) helps a lot to extend range.

Does dialing down the torque actually help that much?  I don't see much difference between custom/85% and eco/50% (IIRC) on my 2014 SR, but setting top speed limiter or holding speed down by hand seems like a much bigger deal.  Terry's record on an unaltered Zero was a beach-park dog-park day where he averaged 25mph, I seem to recall.
Torque shouldn't matter as it takes the same amount of energy to get to X speed in Y or Y*2 time (provided that you're not wasting energy on wheel spin if you break the traction limits).
Title: Re: Cumberland Falls State Park trip on a Zero
Post by: bigd on May 23, 2017, 09:53:28 AM
Emtkopan -  Twisties  and Eco mode don't seem to go together :-)
Title: Re: Cumberland Falls State Park trip on a Zero
Post by: Emtkopan on May 23, 2017, 08:25:21 PM
They did decent actually. I would throttle down to regenerate around some twisties. Going up the hills though, not so friendly. Usually when I hit 0% I can go a few more miles but the hills required more torque than my SR could provide so once I hit 0% it died quickly.