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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: Charging my Zero with a solar array
« on: June 09, 2021, 08:32:04 PM »
It's not worth it, the recharge cycles on your friends battery will reduce it's life.
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Dangerous? Seriously? I have a Bolt too. Learned on the first day that regen wasn't avail at 100%, so I just use my brakes then.I am curious to why the target is set to 95% though. Would it not make more sense to set it at 100% by default?
It's probably to avoid disabling regen when fully charged. I'm guessing because I don't own an SR/F.
In my Chevy Bolt, if the battery is at 100%, regen is disabled to avoid overcharging the battery. That causes some disconcerting free coasting behavior for a few miles, instead of the "engine braking" feel. It's unexpected and possibly dangerous. Limiting the charge avoids that. Most often, people who live at the top of a hill set the charge limit to 90%.
That's a good point and makes sense. If you expect a braking behavior but get something else, it might lead to dangerous situations.
The catch-22 is CCS still is sparse and mostly in coastal states along or near interstates. Fine for cars, but not adequate for motorcycles, not really in areas motorcycles ride. IMO L2 is where it's at and bikes should be optimized for L2 charging. There are few L3's in my region and where they are located, I don't ride.Diginow managed to fit nearly 10kW into the space of the stock SDS charger (well, a tiny bit larger), and that's with 3 separate units. Zero themselves should be able to do better, at least better than they do at the moment.
Yeah, and that's a fool's errand. Why carry the ballast around, when you can reorganize the battery cells to increase voltage and use stationary DC charging stations ? Oh yeah, that requires engineering, and engineering requires engineers... good engineers are expensive, but the electric motorcycle market is inherently small and non-lucrative. So there you have it, catch 22.
Also, don't forget about wind chill.
For those of us that used to suffer carb-icing on our older ICE bikes, it's one thing to be warm at standstill, but moving through cold air reduces the temps even further. Might have been 20F at rest, but certainly moving through the air would have made the bike colder.
@Don no worries on the thread hijack. I shouldn't have asked the question on riding in Phoenix in the first place.IMO, Harley should have the CCS at all HD shops regardless if they sell the LW. With the number of HD dealers around a LW could go almost anywhere if all their shops had the CCS.
I guess Harley was trying to rely on their dealers installing DCFC stations and a growing network if these through things like electricity America or so. So it might not look like a good option now but could be eventually good. Just playing devil's advocate here. At that price tag I guess they dont intend to sell much anyway.
And so could my Energica.
There are 4 dealers in Northern New England. If you look at the harley dealer map, you'll see all are in the south, leaving vast portions of NH, VT and maine with no dealers.
-Don- Tucson, AZ (RV)
H-D would have it right if the US infrastructure supported it. As such their bike is either designed by an idealist or an idiot. Probably a little from column A, a little from column B. A major problem is their DC Fast charging is EXTREMELY throttled. An owner reported back that it charged as high as 21kW.. but only from like 0-30%. Then it scaled back to 1C. Then at like 60% it scaled down to .5C. In the end, at stations that bill you by the minute, it can cost as much as $15 to charge a LiveWire in an hour. That's no way to do things.
As the great 1999 film, Mystery Men, put it, "The Blue Raja : All I'm saying is, when we split the cheque three ways the steak-eater picks the pocket of the salad-man."
In the same way that stations that bill by the minute pick the pocket of the smaller-batteried motorcycle. It makes infinitely more sense to charge at stations that bill by the kWh. However we're not necessarily spoiled for choice at the moment so we take what we can get.
1. There isn't anything stupid about saving gas. It's unlikely you'll save enough DOLLARS to justify buying electric on a strictly economic basis, but "saving gas" goes beyond that. This world needs to get over its addiction to petrochemicals, and us early adopters are the tip of the spear.
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