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Electric Motorcycle News / Other EVs: Tesla Truck and Roadster 2.0
« on: November 17, 2017, 02:49:22 AM »
Tesla are about to launch an incredible all electric truck. Doubling production volume of batteries and motors reduces cost by 19% according to Moore’s Law, and this article is a decent analysis of where they are at; extremely cool.

Seems to me that this is where Zero are stuck - until they can seriously ramp up their volumes growth, prices aren’t going to change much.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Totally weird regen response
« on: October 30, 2017, 04:01:54 PM »
So, my 2014DS has started progressively acting weirder over the last week or so.

I suspect it could be being caused by more than one thing after some testing.

Symptom one
About a week ago I noticed that it was feeling a bit sluggish off the line. I played around a bit but couldn’t help feeling it was a bit off and even tried changing modes which I rarely do (beyond my custom).

Generally it was ok thought so I ignored it.

Symptom two.
Then a few days later I noticed occasional surging on light throttle. During my regular commute it notably surged just momentarily. After a few times I was noticing it more and could see the blip on my dash. It wasn’t all the time or regular just occasionally. A little scary.

Now, I put a new Domino throttle on about 2 months ago so I wondered if that was it. Emailed them, looked for obvious signs, went over my loom (including a very tidy adapter loom I made) and tested resistance.

My digital meter revealed an inconclusive test - generally ok, but did seem a bit touchy and erratic but that could be my meter.

Symptom three.
After a good once over I “just rode it” today and almost straight away I noticed the same symptom - but on regen! Like when the battery is full, but still happens at 68% SOC. On throttle now seems ok!?

Tried changing modes, adjusted custom, tried all sorts of things, but still surging on regen.

Symptom four
So then I tried turning all regen off in custom mode. Then all on 100%. In both cases, it made no difference!!!!! I can’t change settings in custom? !

I did get regen to wrk a bit better in eco, but still surging.

Symptom five
I think I can also detect that when I’m coasting or slowing and my hand  is off throttle, bumps make it worse.

So now I’m back to suspecting that the throttle is “rattling” in its case, throwing weird feedback to the regen. I know a loose brake lever can easily trigger a similar response right?

Help me

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Pulley swap 2014DS
« on: April 23, 2017, 05:21:15 AM »
Just completed a swap to the smaller front pulley on my DS. In rough terms this moves the torque curve down to lower speed which means faster takes offs, closer to a DSR.

Downside is I'm warned belt life might be shorter and top speed down to around 135kmh - have to wait and see but it's an experiment I'm willing to live with for the boost.

The motor removal and re installation was fiddly but and absolute dream compared to an ICE bike. I really have to commend Zero on a tight but really nice design. Adjustment and alignment is all pretty straightforward and logical and with the right tools and some care anyone with some basic skills could do this - only caveat being you are dealing with dangerous power levels and need to be vey methodical and respectful of the danger for injury and damage.

I couldn't get the old pulley off and enlisted a friend with a workshop who did it for a song, swapped out the bearings while we were there. Notably, he left out the grub screw on the pulley all together " does nothing because the key stops the pulley moving and the main bolt locks everything in place" and they are notoriously prone to seizure.

Also swapped the swingarm and wheel bearings which wee bit on good shape after 30000 kms.

The most interesting aspect is that getting the belt adjustment right seems a little trickier.

I always start by string lining the wheels for perfect alignment then tweak the tension a bit at a time. The smaller pulley seems to have changed the way the adjustment behaves - its extremely delicate now and took a number of goes to get the alignment right AND the belt running dead centre on the pulley. Also noticed that when it's set and you tighten the axle nut it adds about 5kgs of tension, presumably as everything is tweaked into place.

Checked it all again after a test ride and it's all looking good will keep you posted.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / 30,000 service 2014 DS
« on: April 16, 2017, 09:42:26 AM »
So, I decided to change the pulley sprocket because I want more zip off the line and because I very rarely need to exceed 130kmh. Combined with only have one point left on my lisence, this seemed like a good experiment and gave me a chance to really get in a dig around for the first time in thirty thousand kilometers. I also live not far from the coast so corrosion and sand are a constant threat.

Motor Removal
I had been warned it would be a bitch job so enlisted a mate and worked steadily. This is the rough order that seems to work well. - Remove the seat, sidecovers and controller cover to start making access easier. I also removed the tank. Cut as many zip ties on the cable loom as you can easily get to under the seat to allow you to heave the loom around. Remove the brake pedal, axle, rear wheel and bottom shock mount. Remove the rubber bungs and the swingarm bolts, allowing the swingarm to be removed. All pretty easy stuff.

Now you have easy access to the motor.

At this stage, we isolated the battery by removing the main leads, a delicate job without much room. Very easy to short the terminals, so go slow and insulate them with tape or rubber hose and ideally use an insulated spanner. We then also unplugged the motor to controller multi plug (tricky bugger with a plastic locking clip) and the three main leads that go to the controller.

We then tried to undo the 3mm grub screw on the pulley and only manage to break bits and twist allen keys. Gave it a little heat but didnt want to risk seal damage, couldnt move it. Decided to remove the whole motor and take it to a specialist. Removing teh top shock bolts is a very fiddly job with odd 15mm spanners required. Very tight space and can barely get a socket in place; lots of cursing to do that.

Removing the motor requires some long allen keys to reach through the frame and the removal of the kickstand assembly. Pretty straight forward to remove the bolts, then the adjustable space nuts. I used a car jack with a plate bolted to it to take the weight and then gently lower.

Service checks
Since I will have a week or so delay while the motor is worked on I cleaned and checked everything. As a rule, I replace the zinc coated bolts and allen screws with stainless to assist next time.

Noticed several interesting things!

My swingarm bearings are very notchy, particularly the belt side bearing. They look pretty easy to swap and standard sizes so Ill do them. 30k is pretty poor for such under stressed bearings. I also checked my rear wheel bearings and they are horrendous; lumpy, tight and a pretty fuckin far from ok. Along with the seals, I'll replace them too and I'm assuming the fronts are possibly similar.  On the rear I noticed the internal tube spacer is very tight on the inner ace, I'll measure them properly to make sure its all good but think i read somewhere else that someone discovered this could be an issue.

I've already replaced the steering head bearings (under warranty) so that makes a full swap of all 8 sets of bearings. The irony and disappointment is that compared to my ICE bike, i have a bout ten times less bearings so i kind of expected less maintenance and bearing wear. Maybe bad luck, maybe shit bearings, maybe poor assembly, certainly some environmental factors but really, I expected more.

Other than this, everything else looks pretty good. No electrical corrosion or chafing of cables and the bolt corrosion that is visible is pretty minor for three years and better than many bikes I see. I've replaced the belt once at 20k which was a speed hump related test ride by a mate" victim I think." What I dont like is the amount of water and dirt being thrown up behind the steering head where all the wiring looms connect and the same at the rear around the sock and DC to DC. Everything is holding up but some rubber or plastic shrouds would reduce the potential for future problems markedly. I also note that there is a decent layer of belt dust on almost everything. Mostly rubber I assume, but a bit of carbon too I assume. Much better than any bike Ive ever worked on for cleanliness, but again a shroud would help keep the crud away from electronics.




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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / DS FXS swap?
« on: December 11, 2016, 05:31:36 PM »
Hey, hypothetically, would the 550A controller and IPM motor from a 2016 FXS go straight into my 2014 DS? That would pretty much make it a DSR..

Anyone tried this ? Wonder what wouldn't be a straight swap

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Motor removal
« on: September 21, 2016, 04:25:36 PM »
So, going to swap my front sprocket soon.

Amy pointers or videos anyone can point me too? Nothing in the Unofficial manual that I could see.

I'm assuming/ recalling that removing the main sprocket bolt will be the hardest bit.

How can I prevent the motor spinning while I undo? Is it LH thread ?

All advice welcome

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / DC to DC converter
« on: February 26, 2016, 04:54:08 AM »
Last night my 12V circuit failed, looking for tips and advice.

Symptoms : Left work as usual and while suiting up, bike live I noticed that the headlight flashed off for no apparent reason. It came back up within a second or so. I flipped a few switches and decided all being good I would depart (at night). Rode a few kms using all normal controls and then engaged indicator and lights went out again. Headlight, tail lights, brake light, accessories and dash light (dash still working).

Pulled off freeway (phew) and by the time I had stopped everything was back to normal. Test rode for a few kms using indicators liberally, all good. Reentered freeway and rode about 10km more. Indicated and same again, lights out but nothing came back to life.

12V fuses all good, replaced to be sure. This morning, checked the HV DC fuse input to the DC to DC converter and replaced (twice) to be sure. No change and the fuse is NOT blown.

So - DC to DC converter failure?

Also suspicious that given the sequence of events it might be a shorted indicator relay flasher (original unit no mods) that has caused the problem?

I've sent off the logs (can't read them myself - what strange language is this? :))

Any clues from you smart folks?

On the plus side, it is very cool that i can download and email logs!

Physically, where is the DC to DC on a  2014DS?

Im totally up for a swap out, anyone got advice on how easy or hard this is? Bound to be fiddly, I know.....

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Rear shock adjustment - 2014 DS
« on: January 18, 2016, 03:33:04 AM »
So c'mon....

Someone out there must have found a way or a tool to actually get to the rear shock spring preload adjustment collar surely?

It just doesn't feel right using a long punch, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to make a tool work in that tight space.

And while I'm here, what's the simplest decent way to get the rear shock out? Looks like to controller has to be moved to access the bolts

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Zero headlight
« on: December 11, 2015, 08:07:30 AM »
Hey

I watched a Yamaha MT03 pull off today and realised the headlight looked very, very similar. Googling images, I reckon it's the exact same unit, (see pic with MT headlight alongside)

Good news for availability and spares me thinks. Did google around for model specific screens but didn't find anything other than teh generic stuff we already know about

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Screens and efficiency and range
« on: October 26, 2015, 05:07:53 AM »
Notwithstanding that we all know that a vetter is the best aerodynamic solution and as Terry has demonstrated, that range can be doubled by using one, I thought you might be interested to know the results of a real world test with small standard screen.

I was recently doing some maintenance and took my small (KTM) screen off my 14 DS for a week or so. I commute 35km each way to work every day through a mixture of roads. Around half of the route is at 80kmh, the remainder in traffic. This week I noticed that I was using around 20% of my capacity to do the trip instead of the normal 15%. I thought I had a technical/battery problem until I remembered that I had no screen - that's the only difference. I've done it in all sorts of weather now and it's pretty consistent.

So, I was quite amazed at what a difference a tiny screen that doesn't look very aerodynamic was making,  but in the real world, it is extending my range by around 5%.

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General Discussion / New electric Quad bike
« on: August 09, 2015, 12:41:34 PM »
Interesting new race quad bike. No detail available that I can find but looks fast



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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Charging accessories
« on: July 11, 2015, 03:33:03 PM »
So, finally got round to fitting my new charging inputs and outputs. I found some great 30A aircraft sockets and plugs that are IP65. I have a box under the tank with everything terminated; on board and 2 optional chargers. 1 socket either side for AC to optional chargers that can be sealed up when not in use. Then, 2 , AC inputs one for stock 5A and one 10A for the others  mounted inside the tank cowls. I have adapters for various 10, 15, 20A and 3phase to connect to these. I think it's neat, super compact and IP rated.

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / DS Tyres
« on: June 17, 2015, 11:43:29 AM »
Hey all

OK, so my stock tyres are pretty shit and now winter has arrived I have to act. Been looking at all my options and stumbled across the new Michelin Anakee III. Really honest review here http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-tires/michelin-anakee-3/review.htm that describes them as being 90/10 road/dirt which is me. At least.

In a nutshell I've been trying to find the sportiest, grippiest tyre I can that will fit the wheel sizes, AND lowers my rolling resistance to improve range - and this seems to be it. There are not many options other than the "dual sport" types which are all very chunky or, old style tyres for older bikes that don't offer the grip or performance.  Anyone else found anything better?  My local bike shop even has them in stock!!

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Parts, Mods And Hacks / New electric motor by Siemens
« on: April 21, 2015, 12:17:30 PM »
Designed for aircraft, Siemens look to have made a pretty shmick motor

http://www.gizmag.com/siemens-world-record-electric-motor-aircraft/37048/

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Home Brew / NuVinci CVT?
« on: March 19, 2015, 07:26:47 AM »
Hey guys

Im a  Zero owner rather than a tinkerer and love the simplicity, but was reminded again today about NuVinci. Their planetary drive CVT looks pretty cool - anyone out there looked at them and can you tell me whats good and bad about them?

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