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Title: 2014 quick charger
Post by: arno on May 28, 2014, 10:31:28 PM
Hello all,

i have a question regarding the optional Delta-Q Quickcharger.
I assume, that they are all simply switched in parallel by the y-cables from zero.
How does every charger know the amount of current or voltage to deliver ?
Or are they decoupled with diodes or something like that ?
Title: Re: 2014 quick charger
Post by: protomech on May 28, 2014, 11:21:28 PM
The chargers AFAIK operate independently in parallel, and use the battery voltage as an input to determine constant current or constant voltage they deliver.
Title: Re: 2014 quick charger
Post by: BSDThw on May 29, 2014, 05:49:09 PM
I can only speak for the 2012 Version of the Delta-q but I believe technology is the same.

It is current limited therefore the voltage will be automatically rise with the battery voltage. If it reach the end-voltage the Delta-q reduce the current.
As much as I saw the Delta-q was never disabled it runs his hibernation algorithm -
... Once fully charged, the
     charger will check the status of the power pack     
     once every 72 hours to ensure that it maintains a
     full charge. When fully charged, a green light will
     illuminate on the charger. Should the charger not...

A Delta-q has an enable port (2012 for sure) that allows the BMS to shut off the Qelta-q.
e.g. if the cells are out of  balance it could happen the "current-reduce-value -> Voltage" is not reached but one cell reach the endvoltage and would start a thermal runaway :o

Arno darf ich Dich fragen was Du beruflich machst?

Title: Re: 2014 quick charger
Post by: Lamac on June 02, 2014, 11:19:37 PM
Hello Arno,

i am thinking to build or better retrofit a 3,3kW Version....

This one i will order -->

http://www.ies-synergy.com/en/chargers/onboard-sealed-chargers/elips-3300w (http://www.ies-synergy.com/en/chargers/onboard-sealed-chargers/elips-3300w)

Still investigating whats on the market.




But if anyone is interested i found a source, they shall feet to the ZEROS.

 http://www.ev-power.eu/Chargers-TC-1-5-kW/ (http://www.ev-power.eu/Chargers-TC-1-5-kW/)

there are Models for 28S


greetings  :)

Lamac
Title: Re: 2014 quick charger
Post by: protomech on June 03, 2014, 01:07:06 AM
The ELIPS charger looks really nice; it's about as heavy as and a little smaller than a lower-power elcon 2500.

Do you have a price, or voltage and current spec for the charger?
Title: Re: 2014 quick charger
Post by: Lamac on June 03, 2014, 01:16:12 AM
Hello protomech

Flexible and easy to integrate:

Universal input voltage: 85V-265V
Output voltage range: 80V to 520V
Standalone or managed via CANBUS (slave mode)


if 100VDC ... 33 Ampere

regards

Lamac


Title: Re: 2014 quick charger
Post by: dc5dd on July 18, 2014, 04:15:00 AM
Hello protomech

Flexible and easy to integrate:

Universal input voltage: 85V-265V
Output voltage range: 80V to 520V
Standalone or managed via CANBUS (slave mode)


if 100VDC ... 33 Ampere

regards

Lamac

I too am interested in the IES ELIPS.  Any more info than the website such as a specification sheet and pricing?
Title: Re: 2014 quick charger
Post by: benswing on July 18, 2014, 10:48:29 AM
That looks awesome!  Smaller, more powerful & lighter than the Elcons. 

Wonder what the price is?
Title: Re: 2014 quick charger
Post by: dc5dd on July 18, 2014, 01:13:29 PM
That looks awesome!  Smaller, more powerful & lighter than the Elcons. 

Wonder what the price is?

Not only that but it has a IP rating of 66 :D
Title: Re: 2014 quick charger
Post by: protomech on July 19, 2014, 02:30:57 AM
IES also supplies the fast chargers for the Formula E race cars.

http://www.ies-synergy.com/en/news/ies-fournisseur-exclusif-de-bornes-de-recharge-rapide-pour-championnat-fia-formula-e (http://www.ies-synergy.com/en/news/ies-fournisseur-exclusif-de-bornes-de-recharge-rapide-pour-championnat-fia-formula-e)
Title: Re: 2014 quick charger
Post by: dc5dd on July 19, 2014, 07:55:08 AM
Geez now I ready wish I had more info and pricing ::).  I've contacted IES for more info hope they respond.