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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: New SR/S - some observations
« on: June 28, 2021, 11:15:35 AM »
I had Chevy EV and now a Tesla that both use some algorithm to determine if the brake light should activate with regen coasting. Surprised Zero hasn't started doing so yet. What Richard230 mentions to get around this is what I do as well, except I tend to start my braking with the rear and then begin to apply the front if I need to be serious about slowing down.

For the brake lock, again I'm surprised this isn't built in at this point. I use a this brake level lock that I got from Amazon. It adds a couple seconds to my pre and post ride routine, but on top of keeping the bike stationary, it also acts as an extra layer of security.

Also a reverse switch would be nice. Can this system not spin the motor backwards, or is there a safety concern? Even if it's capped at half a mph, I'll take it.

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I tried going to EV Components website but it times out. Did you have contact with them recently?

Hey, sorry I haven't visited the forums in a few days. To answer your question, I bought through their website. It appears to be running for me as of today. Give it another try? Or does it time out when you try to order? I did also contact them over the winter to ask about the status of my order, and get responses within a day when emailing them directly to the address listed on their site, contact@evcomponents.com.

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That will not be possible with my chargers as they need to see voltage before they will activate. And there is no voltage on the motor controller until the key is once turned on to supply the voltage so my chargers can turn on. And then they will stay on, even when the key is removed.

Does the charger you have put out voltage without first seeing voltage? Then you could have other possibilities, but what is wrong with using the key to get it to activate as long as you can remove the key?

-Don-  Auburn, CA

Nothing wrong really. Most cases, I'll be plugging in after riding where the bike is still on anyway. Just thinking about saving a step for the rare case where I do a cold plug in. Just wanted to make sure we're experiencing the same thing.

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Back in this thread, did you notice this?

That way you can start the charge without the key.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

I did almost the same, but not sure if I'm looking at the hack right. My switch closes the grey and red wires. With this, I can switch the bike into the charge state, but only if it's keyed on first. After that, I can key it off. Were you able to get your bike to switch into the charge state without having to key on at all?

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Ahhhh ok, I switched to imgur. Hope they show up now. Guessing my browser cached my Google images so I couldn't tell it wasn't showing.

This project is pretty cool. Wish I could find more info on that data connector that goes into the onboard charger. Looking at videos on YouTube, it seems the Diginow Supercharger plugs into that connector and can start the charge without the key in, unless I'm mistaken.

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Yeah I would think the charger would withstand it. The circuit was going to trip anyway. The breaker is at only 10 or 15 amps and I forgot about the fridge being plugged into it. Not super sure if any of this is the reason, but not going to lose too much sleep over it.

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Hey Shadow, I want to thank you for this post topic. It really helped me out and got my 2015 Zero SR back on the road.

My onboard charger died back in November. The outlet I plugged it into tripped, and the charger must not have liked that. This is actually my SECOND stock charger. The first one also fried but was under warranty at the time. I heard a new one would be over a grand out of pocket before labor. I considered the DeltaQ option but at 900w it sounded absolutely weak for $600. I really wanted to go with Diginow or EVtricity for their fast charging solutions but apparently they're both out of the game.

This forum topic provided a viable and less expensive alternative. I opted for the TC HK-J 3300 (still trying to figure out if Elcon designed the unit or if they just rebrand it). I ordered from EV Components just as you did, providing the same exact numbers you provided since they appear to corroborate with zeromanual.com (THANKS TO YOU GUYS AS WELL!) for my 12.5 kWh bike. The timeline was longer for me though as I placed the order on November 19th and received the unit on January 9th. Guessing covid plus holidays will do that. The unit costed $475 USD and shipping was $89. Michael from EV Components was pretty responsive, and I'm pretty sure it's the same Michael from EV Assemble.

So the unit comes with a standard NEMA 5-15 plug input, an Anderson SB50 output, and the pig tail is configured to the 12v+ and enable pins (CAN BUS sockets are there but I'm not using them). I ghetto attached a switch to the pigtail.


I didn't want to cut off any connectors yet, so I crimped an SB50 to SBS75X-BRN adapter with some 6 awg wires.


And of course since my stock charger is no longer on the bike, I had to do the connector hack to allow charging with the key is off. I pried the male connector off the the busted charger and yanked two pins as well. Attached them to the slots for the red and gray wires and ghetto soldered a switch to them.


The accessory port being out of the way takes a bit more effort to reach than the C13 port, but getting it plugged in is not too bad.


All in all, it works. It's a couple extra steps though as I need to switch the charge hack on before keying the bike off. In either case, I absolutely appreciate the enthusiasm the EV bike community has as I'd be completely clueless without the information you guys have compiled.

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General Discussion / Re: Hipsters and what they ride
« on: August 03, 2017, 05:18:32 AM »
I don't think anyone has ever called a Zero a "hipster bike".  At least not yet.  Maybe in another 20 years.   ;)

Oh, I've seen it here and there, mainly whenever a Zero Ad shows up on Facebook. But yeah 11.4kWh with a 3000w charger would be pretty hipsterish in 20 years when we have a 500kWh capacity motorcycle with a 2 megawatt charger on board.

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General Discussion / Re: Hipsters and what they ride
« on: August 02, 2017, 10:55:16 PM »
I'm going go on a limb and say that people who are calling Zero bikes hipster bikes don't care much for hipster riders nor Zero bikes. Therefore let's just throw a single umbrella over them both.

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I'm on my second Zero. The first one is still good after 30,000 miles, and both bikes haven't let me down. Once in a while, you'll hear a story about a faulty bike. They're fully capable of running solid, and the dealer should make it right for you under warranty.

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You should ask your dealer to check Zero's "COV" list (Company Owned Vehicles). I learned about this list when shopping for my DSR...at the time it was full of bikes that were used by the press, etc. Bikes on this list have not been registered so are eligible for all of the rebates, but do have less time left on the warranty because they are often at least one MY old. Could be a way for you to save a few bucks as well as get you one without needing to order.

This is how I came across my Zero SR for a pretty sick price. You're still considered the original owner which makes you eligible for incentives if offered in your state.

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Interestingly enough, I went from an F800R (2011) to a Zero S. The Beemer was a great bike as it was agile, powerful, fairly comfortable​ and has ridiculously good gas mileage. I switched over to the Zero because it beat my F800R in all these metrics. I dare (maybe more like beg) anyone to find me a better highway commuter. The upfront cost on the Zero is obviously higher, but the BMW would prompt me for service once, maybe twice, per year. Road tripping was more simplistic with the BMW, but the parallel twin's vibration become more like buzzing at 70mph leaving my limbs numb within an hour. Not sure I'd ever be interested in going cross country with that. Charging options for the Zero are getting very attractive though.

As far as stocking Zero's go, the dealer closest to me mentions they only keep demo bikes on hand. Customers would have to place an order to be built and delivered from the factory (Scotts Valley, California). Or the dealer might sell you a demo bike if they're done with it. Of course that dealer you're seeing might have a different situation.

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Looks great! I've been following this thread and am very interested in getting one of these!

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Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ / Re: The under 100 mile club!
« on: May 25, 2017, 02:24:46 AM »
Winds and high speeds are killer on range. I actually ran my 11.4 kWh battery flat once doing a 75 mile trip. I went through this long stretch of highway where the speed limit is 70 mph. Winds were stupid strong that day though, and also for some strange reason strong winds make everyone want to drive way faster.

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Haha! The air filter mod on the helmet is pretty wicked! Very nice!

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