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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: lolachampcar on February 28, 2013, 02:49:08 AM
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I'm looking to pair my phone to my bike and just curious if someone has done this and if they want to share how they did it.
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http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/app/help/ios/connectivity.php (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/app/help/ios/connectivity.php)
Not in the manual but was on their site... It works!
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Wow - so
turning the key |flipping eco/sport switch| at least 12 times back and forth enables discovery. Nothing one does by mistake, I'm sure. No more 'someone-will-pair-my-bike-and-change-the-settings'-angst at the red light!
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No more 'someone-will-pair-my-bike-and-change-the-settings'-angst at the red light!
So there ends my story of a while back. :'(
Trikester
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To be clear you toggle the sport / eco switch 12 times (6 switches), not key cycle.
-ryan
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To be clear you toggle the sport / eco switch 12 times (6 switches),
Oh, Ryan, you mean just normal riding for me will do it. ;D
Trikester
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No more 'someone-will-pair-my-bike-and-change-the-settings'-angst at the red light!
So there ends my story of a while back. :'(
To be clear you toggle the sport / eco switch 12 times (6 switches),
Oh, Ryan, you mean just normal riding for me will do it. ;D
And suddenly the story (http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=2514.0) is open for a sequel. :D
To be clear you toggle the sport / eco switch 12 times (6 switches),
Fixed it, thanks for pointing out. Your post has been quoted already, better keep the post to avoid confusion.
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To be clear you toggle the sport / eco switch 12 times (6 switches),
Oh, Ryan, you mean just normal riding for me will do it. ;D
Trikester
The other important thing is the kill switch has to be in the "no go" position, so go ahead and switch modes all you want while riding, and not be worried about someone pairing to your bike without your knowledge.
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Well I've been using my iPod for several days now and I find everything to be extremely flaky. Sometimes the Bluetooth won't connect no matter how I try, other times it works perfectly. Then sometimes it says I have the Bluetooth connection but the bike fails to send anything to the iPod (or the app fails to recognize the data). I think this system needs work. >:(
To mount the iPod I used a holder called "Survivor" (purchased at the Apple Store) and removed the belt clip, installed a 6mm "Rivnut" in the bike's plastic panel and mounted the iPod holding clip using the center hole where the belt clip used to be mounted. It's very easy to un-clip the holder and carry the iPod along with the rubber cushion that surrounds it. See photos.
Trikester
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Well I've been using my iPod for several days now and I find everything to be extremely flaky. Sometimes the Bluetooth won't connect no matter how I try, other times it works perfectly. Then sometimes it says I have the Bluetooth connection but the bike fails to send anything to the iPod (or the app fails to recognize the data). I think this system needs work. >:(
To mount the iPod I used a holder called "Survivor" (purchased at the Apple Store) and removed the belt clip, installed a 6mm "Rivnut" in the bike's plastic panel and mounted the iPod holding clip using the center hole where the belt clip used to be mounted. It's very easy to un-clip the holder and carry the iPod along with the rubber cushion that surrounds it. See photos.
Trikester
I have not had any problems using my iPhone 4s. However, both of my Generation 2 and 3 iTouch's will not recognize the bike and the Apple Support website has a chart which shows Bluetooth compatibility with all generations of Apple devices. I do have to close the app and re-open each time which makes it a little awkward.
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I'm using the iPod Touch current gen 4 which Zero says is compatible. Sometimes it works great, other times not.
Yes, I also find it kind of a bother to have to close the app and re-open it to make contact, but sometimes even that doesn't work in my case.
Trikester
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guess thats bluetooth for us. Apple airplay or wifi might work better ....
anyway -- does it add features other than the drive setup at the start ? do u use the dashboard and is the information of use ?
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I did the drive setup to begin with, but it is the dashboard that is most useful to me. Especially seeing watts use and charge remaining. Then after the ride stats.
It's interesting to see the watts use go from + to - when using regen. 8)
Yesterday it all worked while riding to a motorcycle meet, then on the ride back home nothing worked, not even the after ride stats, even though it said Bluetooth was connected. >:(
Trikester
BTW - When the iPod is mounted in a case, such as the one I used, turn off "auto brightness" or it thinks it is dark and the screen goes very dim. That had me puzzled for a few minutes until I figured out what was happening. ???
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I know, some forum lurkers probably thought; "hey, the guy's almost 78, it's probably operator error". Well they may have been right. It looks to me like the only way to close the Zero app, once it has been opened is to completely turn off the iPod. Today I think that I discovered that I was not shutting it down but only putting it in "sleep mode" when I thought I was shutting it off. Since the app has to be opened after the bike is powered up and Bluetooth connection has been established, then it would not work after the bike was turned off and back on again if the app had never closed in the first place, because the iPod had only been in sleep mode.
Time will tell if this was the problem. At least I now know the proper procedure for completely powering down my iPod, I wasn't holding the button down long enough and then sliding the bar on the screen over.
Ah, for the good old days when there were knobs and switches on electronic equipment. ;) These things don't even get hot enough for a cat to sleep on these days. For you young ones, that don't comprehend that last statement, many a warmth loving house cat got a good snooze on top of a vacuum tube based TV set or console radio.
Trikester
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Hi All,
I have recently joined Zero to begin working with the development team on the mobile app. So I'll admit to lurking on the forums, but trikester, I never assume anything is operator error.
If any of you'd be willing to speak to me more about your experience with the app, then I would love to talk with each of you. Please PM me. I'll be trying to set up calls for early next week and promise not to take more than 30 minutes of your time.
We are also working to update the FAQs to better reflect device compatibility. Unfortunately with the wide variety of iOS and especially Android devices in the market, we can't test all in every configuration. Hence, I lurk and we try to look into reported problems.
Thanks to all of you for your excellent feedback.
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I know, some forum lurkers probably thought; "hey, the guy's almost 78, it's probably operator error". Well they may have been right. It looks to me like the only way to close the Zero app, once it has been opened is to completely turn off the iPod. Today I think that I discovered that I was not shutting it down but only putting it in "sleep mode" when I thought I was shutting it off. Since the app has to be opened after the bike is powered up and Bluetooth connection has been established, then it would not work after the bike was turned off and back on again if the app had never closed in the first place, because the iPod had only been in sleep mode.
Time will tell if this was the problem. At least I now know the proper procedure for completely powering down my iPod, I wasn't holding the button down long enough and then sliding the bar on the screen over.
Ah, for the good old days when there were knobs and switches on electronic equipment. ;) These things don't even get hot enough for a cat to sleep on these days. For you young ones, that don't comprehend that last statement, many a warmth loving house cat got a good snooze on top of a vacuum tube based TV set or console radio.
Trikester
There is no need to power down the device (iTouch or iPhone). When the app is open, it will appear in the bottom line of apps when the main button is pushed twice in succession. If it is
not visible, simply scroll to the left with your finger and you will find it, probably with many other apps that you did not know were open in the background. When you see the ZERO app, hold your finger on it and all of the other apps plus the ZERO app will start wiggling with a red delete circle in the upper left corner. Press on this red minus sign and the app will disappear and not be running in the background. When you want the device to see the Zero motorcycle again, simply open the app from the main app library in the pages with all of your other apps.
Note: if you hold your finger on the apps on the main pages, they will start wiggling and have a black X in the upper left hand corners. Do not push this X or the app will be removed from your device and you will have to reinstall it. It is good to check the open apps on the bottom line from time to time running in the background by the procedure described above since they can eat battery power even though they are not being used. I close all the unused apps on the bottom line for this reason.
I have never had a connection problem with the bike by closing the app first as described above and then opening it up fresh again.
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Thanks for the instructions.
I searched all through the on-line owner's manual and never found anything about how to close an app. I even searched under "closing an app" to no avail. Nothing either on pushing the main button twice to see a list of open apps at the bottom. This information will help a lot! ;D
I did see the instructions about how to remove an app in the main pages, as you also described. Had I discovered the double button push and the open app list at the bottom I would have been afraid to do what you instruct, because I would have assumed that would remove the app, as it does on the main page. Apple needs to be clearer about all of this.
I don't think I'll have any more problem with this, thanks. 8)
Trikester
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Thanks for the instructions.
I searched all through the on-line owner's manual and never found anything about how to close an app. I even searched under "closing an app" to no avail. Nothing either on pushing the main button twice to see a list of open apps at the bottom. This information will help a lot! ;D
I did see the instructions about how to remove an app in the main pages, as you also described. Had I discovered the double button push and the open app list at the bottom I would have been afraid to do what you instruct, because I would have assumed that would remove the app, as it does on the main page. Apple needs to be clearer about all of this.
I don't think I'll have any more problem with this, thanks. 8)
Trikester
It helps us older folks to hang around the younger ones who live close to their "devices" and can teach us a thing or two. I would have never learned about this were it not for friends 20 or more years my junior. Perhaps Zero can add these little tidbits to their instructions when setting up the communication link.
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Yes, it would be good if Zero could fill in the "holes" that Apple leaves in their operating instructions. Since the app has to open after the Bluetooth connection with the bike, it's important to be able to close it and reopen it without turning off the iPod or iPhone. In my case I wasn't even turning it off properly. :-[
Trikester
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I'm a software developer who has made iOS apps, and I have to admit that bluetooth pairing is not as intuitive as it should be, and it took me a minute of fiddling to get them paired. The instructions on the page are accurate, but require background familiarity. :-)
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It was not the pairing Parsee that caused me problems, it was Apple's lack of instructions on how to close an app, once opened.
Trikester
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So, does the Bluetooth come on when you plug the back in to charge or, is it only on when the key is turned on? How do you get charging information on the app while the bike is charging?
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So, does the Bluetooth come on when you plug the back in to charge or, is it only on when the key is turned on? How do you get charging information on the app while the bike is charging?
It seems to come on while charging without the key. I tested this by examining the charge state from my living room while the bike charged in the garage (directly below). Very cool!
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It seems to come on while charging without the key. I tested this by examining the charge state from my living room while the bike charged in the garage (directly below). Very cool!
Yes, it does come on when the charging plug is connected & key off, but I have some reason to suspect that Bluetooth turns off when the charge is complete (haven't tried to prove that yet).
I had no idea the Bluetooth would go as far as you are getting it. I've been hovering right over my bike when checking charge. I'll kick back a little more from now on ;D
Trikester