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Lenny

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Re: Zero 2017
« Reply #450 on: November 15, 2016, 09:29:22 PM »

I also hope that kashography is right with his assumption. But then Zero should clearly advertise the peak torque value as 157 Nm. Otherwise this could irritate potential buyers.
Why not giving both values, peak torque and nominal torque? Would be very clear from my perspective.

Due to the regulations they are not allowed to publish other values than those which we're measured according to the regulations. That's at least what I heard.
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Re: Zero 2017
« Reply #451 on: November 15, 2016, 10:07:00 PM »

I also hope that kashography is right with his assumption. But then Zero should clearly advertise the peak torque value as 157 Nm. Otherwise this could irritate potential buyers.
Why not giving both values, peak torque and nominal torque? Would be very clear from my perspective.

Due to the regulations they are not allowed to publish other values than those which we're measured according to the regulations. That's at least what I heard.
This is my understanding as well...EU doesn't allow publication of numbers that don't conform to the EU standards.  This is also the reason for slight differences in range specs for EU vs rest of world.

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Re: Zero 2017
« Reply #452 on: November 19, 2016, 12:19:16 AM »

Regarding the slight differences in published torque & power numbers in US v. EU...

Q: Why are the torque and power specifications different between the USA and Europe?
A: While the vehicles are identical between regions and perform the same, there are now different test standards for torque and power in the USA and Europe. The SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) test determines “peak” or “max” torque and power, whereas the EU standard (UNECE Reg No 85) determines “net” numbers. The slight differences between the tests produce different results. Again, the actual performance of the vehicles is identical.

PS - Obligatory reminder that I am a Zero employee.
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Re: Zero 2017
« Reply #453 on: November 23, 2016, 05:13:50 AM »

Autoblog.com reviews the 2017 Zero model range: 
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/11/22/zero-motorcycles-2017-lineup-video/
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Re: Zero 2017
« Reply #454 on: November 23, 2016, 06:16:26 AM »

Autoblog.com reviews the 2017 Zero model range: 
http://www.autoblog.com/2016/11/22/zero-motorcycles-2017-lineup-video/

Not a review just an article saying the specs and zero's pomotional videos. Nothing different from Zero's web site.

I waiting for a proper review, riding the bikes etc. to see how much each bike has changed from 2016.
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Re: Zero 2017
« Reply #455 on: November 23, 2016, 12:28:43 PM »

Regarding the slight differences in published torque & power numbers in US v. EU...

Q: Why are the torque and power specifications different between the USA and Europe?
A: While the vehicles are identical between regions and perform the same, there are now different test standards for torque and power in the USA and Europe. The SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) test determines “peak” or “max” torque and power, whereas the EU standard (UNECE Reg No 85) determines “net” numbers. The slight differences between the tests produce different results. Again, the actual performance of the vehicles is identical.

PS - Obligatory reminder that I am a Zero employee.

thanks a lot for the clarification! It seems that the EU Norm measures over a period of 30s when i remember correctly
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