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Thank you for starting this thread.  I am very interested to see what experiences people have both with higher power home EVSE and how many support higher power in the wild today.  It's my understanding that 90% of the charging infrastructure in the US is Level 2, but I can't quantify how many offer higher power.  I do know that many of the EVSE in Europe along freeways offer higher power.  But real experiences from people in the world would be very helpful. 

Here are a few links of interest:

https://store.clippercreek.com/level2/level2-40-to-80

https://emotorwerks.com/store/residential/juicebox-pro-75-smart-75-amp-evse-with-24-foot-cable

Regards,
aaronzeromoto

Hello Aaron,

Strange, just checked the 2017 manual, it says:

Zero S ZF13  pitch 8   20-30kg
All   other    pitch 11  25-76.5kg

This looks like an odd copy-paste between krikit spec and frequency measurement spec...

Furthermore, where do you come to the point that ZF6.5 has 8mm pitch and ZF13.0 has 11mm?

Yes, these are typos that are getting corrected in the current manual.  And you are right that the ZF6.5 does not have an 8mm pitch belt.  Ignore the model designation and only look at the belt size.  The frequencies apply to the relevant belt.

Sorry for the confusion.

aaronzeromoto

I assume that we should pull the plug once the dash display shows 100%, which on my 2014S is after the pack is balanced, which it does about 30 hours after recharging to 98%.

I leave that up to you and it depends on whether you are storing for the long term. The key change is we are dropping the guideline/requirement that you must or should keep it plugged in all the time. 

With respect to seeing some variation in the SOC report at the top end of the range, I would also make sure you have updated the firmware. Not sure if it would apply in this case, but there are some improvements that were made that might apply here.

Hi fellow owners!

Zero is in the process of changing our charging and storage recommendations for 2013 and newer motorcycles, but it has nothing to do with power pack overheating, lawyers, or any of the other issues discussed above.  We’ve learned much from several years of experience with our current cells and from data provided by the manufacturer. We are applying these learnings in a number of areas.  One key change is that we are no longer requiring that you always keep the motorcycle plugged in. In fact, we have found that our 2013 and newer motorcycles should have even longer and healthier lives if the motorcycle is left unplugged when charging isn’t need.  We’ll be launching a communications plan to all owners in the next few weeks, but the new charging recommendations for 2013 and new bikes are:

"Charging Recommendations for 2013 and newer Zero Motorcycles (All Models)

Regular Use
After each use, you should plug your motorcycle into an AC power source to recharge.  Once it is charged, you should disconnect it from the AC power source. Leaving your motorcycle off the charger will maximize long-term power pack health.

While unplugged and keyed off, the motorcycle's electronics will consume a very small amount of power and the power pack will drain extremely slowly. If you don’t ride for an extended period (30 days or more), you may want to plug the motorcycle in for a few hours to charge it prior to your next ride.

Long-term Storage
For planned long-term storage (more than 30 days), we recommend draining the power pack to a ~60% state of charge, and leaving the charger unplugged.

Once again, the power pack will drain extremely slowly over time. Check state of charge (SoC) at least monthly, and charge it back up to 60% if it has dropped below 30%. When you’re ready to take your motorcycle out of storage to ride it again, plug in the charger for at least 24 hours to ensure optimal cell balance is restored.

Warning: Never store your motorcycle at a state of charge of less than 30%. Leaving the power pack discharged below this level for a prolonged period could damage the power pack and void the warranty."

As an owner of multiple Zero motorcycles, I had an impossible time keeping them all plugged in. So from my personal perspective, we are just relaxing our guidelines to make them even more enjoyable.

Regards,
aaronzeromoto

Rick,

As you have pointed out, the email from our inside sales person is incorrect. I will follow up with the person to address the error.

In general, I ask all our employees to NOT interpret the Limited Warranty or information in the Owner's Manual to avoid such errors.  It's also why I generally don't comment on these discussions online.  Instead, it is best to review the specific terms on our website here:

http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/warranty/

Thank you for helping correct this.

Regards,
Aaron

Patrick,

It was our fault on the warranty error in the system.  Since yours was a factory demo originally, it had not been recorded correctly.  We updated our records.  Sorry about that, but happy your motorcycle is back on the road.

Enjoy the ride!
aaronzeromoto

New design for 2015 was recently released.  The larger master cylinder and the new throttles made the older version difficult to install.

http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=221&zenid=39rdd2ivllkeh4rt2dpk22bn72

Regards,
aaronzeromoto