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Hello all,
2023 SS9 in Denver Co. I just got FW 43 and chain/sprocket set. I have traction control set to 1 but I can turn it off with the same results. I have my regen set to the strongest, dont like using the brakes when I dont need to..
Symptoms
When Im above 30 mph and let off on the throttle, in any conditions or scenarios the traction control lights flash quite often and I have regen sputters at about 10% of the time. As in I let off at say 60mph and the TC lights flash, the bike jerks as if it cant handle the strong regen and cancels it out until 30 mph.
Before I got the work done I could let off at 90 mph and regen would slow me to a stop very quickly.
Anyone have Ideas or thoughts?
Thanks
Joe

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the Ribelle didn't reach 100% . would stop always at 96% after that 90%, 88% and back 96 . the ss9 gets to 100% but when I want to ride in the morning it starts from 98% . to day i was riding and at 39% i get the limp msg . I wish it was at 3% . 39% limp mode !

If limp mode activates at 39% SOC, you have a weak cell or weak cell group that hits low voltage cut-off under acceleration.  How hard were you working the throttle when limp mode activated?  The cell group responsible for system keep-alive @ 12V protected by 315mA fuse will not always balance on the first charge cycle after a long storage interval when not using LPR - that's been my experience.

Older firmware will clearly indicate when the pack is not balanced, as in the Ribelle you tested @ 96% after charge is complete.  Forcing another balance session or two or three is all that is required to get the keep-alive cell group back up to balance.  Suggest you try this on the SS9 because me thinks the newer firmware masks this issue.

My bike (now) charges to 100% SOC on every third charge cycle and the only time limp mode has ever activated was @ <10% SOC when the pack was forced to 0% for diagnostic reasons.  Generally, it never dips below 20% SOC when riding.  Firmware version 37.

I have a set of very good condition OZ Racing spoked wheels off of an Energica SS9+ for sale. As an option when you buy the bike, these run about $2000. I no longer have the bike and will be moving at the end of summer, so I'd like to see them go to someone who will use them for what I think is a very reasonable price. These come with the brake rotors, spacers, axles, and chain ring+ bushings.

I currently have an offer from someone on the East Coast to buy these, but would really prefer not to ship them. Happy to meet anywhere in the SF bay area or California in general to sell them.

Please shoot me an email if you want a quick reply.

A short news report on the radio this morning said that the very well-off town of Tiburon in Marin County, has bought E-bikes for their cops so that they can chase after kids on E-bike exceeding the speed limit on their hiking and biking trails (most of which are paved). This should be fun.    Who will be riding the fastest E-biks?  My money is on the teenagers of very rich parents.

I had some issues with my bike's battery 2 years ago as well, it took a while, but Energica made it right.

The 100%-->98% after standing and some cooling down is totally normal behaviour. The limp mode at 39% is absolutely not normal and sounds like one or more cells reach lower safety limit. Unfortunately I cannot judge battery balance and cell health, but you should really contact the dealer in writing. If you balance the battery multiple times (cycle balancing again when full, apply low amps), maybe you can improve.  I do agree with you that the bikes have too many digital glitches. I think Energica know, but struggle with man power.

The BMW Ce04 aint exactly flawless, after an extensive series of charging errors we had the charge controller replaced in ours...which would be a $4000 item out of war

I find the BMW much more stable unit . I can agree on the back lights - they are plastic that only waits to break but the rest is really hands down for the BMW . you push a buttons and the screens run in front of your eyes . everything works flawlessly . I don't think BMW is charging only to 0.8C . I read somewhere that they make their own batteries. compartment size is better than the zero compartment in the energica . but I don't really care about all that . i am talking about the stability of the system. the flow of the ride . i get msgs all the time about missing FOB key , to release the back brake , at 39% Limp mode , i got in both motorcycles cut offs ( on the ribelle it almost cost me my life the first time ) . So far zero issues with the BMW vs. so many issues with the energica . at least for me with the bikes I had .

I admit I got the BMW brand new and the Energicas came pre owned . 

the Ribelle didn't reach 100% . would stop always at 96% after that 90%, 88% and back 96 . the ss9 gets to 100% but when I want to ride in the morning it starts from 98% . to day i was riding and at 39% i get the limp msg . I wish it was at 3% . 39% limp mode !

I bought ribelle 2023 with 1700 miles . got 3 cut offs . never charged to 100% .

Can you please explain what you mean with 'never charged to 100%'? Did you never charge it to 100% yourself (SOC limit applied) or did the bike stop charging before 100%? If you don't charge to 100% regularly, or before every ride, cells will develop unbalance, resulting in cell voltage warning messages in lower-mid SOC.

Last Friday I have driven my bike home to 1% SOC. Only at 3% SOC I got the cell voltage message and short limp mode (was applying full throttle). My bike has 42.000 km on the odometer.