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General Category => Pics and Vids => Topic started by: xmjsilverx on January 10, 2016, 11:39:51 PM
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I am already bored of the red on my Zero SR. I am thinking about doing a wrap so I can easily undo it at some point. My first thought was a carbon fiber wrap with some electric blue accents (I am still working on a photoshop of that). I also stumbled on blue chrome wraps and thought that might look kind of neat on my bike. What do you think of this? Does anyone have any custom paint or wraps on their Zero?
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x40/xmjsilverx/2016_zero-sr_studio_rp_1680x1200_presschromeblue_zpsqcn0qrbi.jpg) (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/xmjsilverx/media/2016_zero-sr_studio_rp_1680x1200_presschromeblue_zpsqcn0qrbi.jpg.html)
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I like the blue chrome! I am planning to do a wrap in the early spring. I am curious to see how good it looks, how easy it is to remove (just use a heat gun?) and find out if it will start to peel off on its own or gets dull or scratched quickly.
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I approve of vinyl and the color. I've applied a vinyl wrap to the side panels on my V-Strom before (double-curved, very challenging for my first wrap) and will likely do it on my Zero soon when I have time.
Some vouch for Plasti Dip which would probably work for the lower panels.
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Thanks, glad you like it. I will not be doing it myself. I am waiting for a quote from a local shop. I can't imagine it would be too expensive. I am going to try to photoshop my carbon fiber and electric blue accents idea but I think it's going to be hard for me to get that to look real.
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Here is somewhat of an idea of how the carbon and blue accent would look. I am not exactly sure what style the accent would be but this is my first attempt.
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x40/xmjsilverx/2016_zero-sr_studio_rp_1680x1200_carbonblue_zpswuh3mfhb.jpg) (http://s181.photobucket.com/user/xmjsilverx/media/2016_zero-sr_studio_rp_1680x1200_carbonblue_zpswuh3mfhb.jpg.html)
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I believe if they came from the factory looking like that, their sales would increase tenfold. That looks amazing.
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Thanks, I feel like I didn't even get it quite right. I think it would actually look even better in person.
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First thing I did when I got the SR was to black it out. Just plasti-dipped it for a quick / cheap / easy to remove trial, but it's starting to peel where it's rubbed now though so time for a full wrap. Quotes I've gotten so far are pretty ridiculous though due to the tank fairing being a bit angular and a pain to do neatly.
The Chrome wraps do look the goods if done nicely. Saw a new H2 with silver chrome the other day. Looking at scooters for the girlfriend currently and she's been talking about a 'holographic wrap' if that's your type of thing.
Of your mock ups though, personally I'd got for the Blue chrome over highlights. Fake carbon fiber always comes across a little tacky in my books.
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This color is really really awesome plus has something electric!
Can you send some pictures when done?
As there is only 3 elements to paint, why don't you go for real paint, with any auto body ?
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Well I got the quote back today on the wrap. $1300. Way way over what I had guessed. I may talk to someone about paint but unless some other place can do the wrap for a fraction of that cost I will not be doing a wrap. I wanted the wrap because I thought it would be cheaper (wrong) plus it is easily undone and things like chrome and carbon fiber can be done.
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A DIY wrap can be cheap but obviously it's more involved and can be frustrating. I wouldn't try a complex pattern, but a single shade should be reasonable. Anyway, what you're quoted for is skilled labor. You can't get around that for a complex fairing shape.
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The material is pretty cheap. I bought a small section of the blue chrome and I'll try it out on the front fender in a few weeks. If it goes well I will attempt the rest of the bike.
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Have you thought about plasti dip?
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Plasti-dip isn't the best long-term solution. It's awesome for any material that doesn't contact another surface, but you'll run into peeling etc where your knees contact or where you kick the tail because you're too lazy to lift your leg high enough when jumping on the bike. Or maybe that's just me... That being said, it's awesome to trial a colour before going for something more permanent / expensive.
Best I've been quoted for a matte black vinyl wrap is AU$750. I've just got pricing through for black plastics from the local dealer and I can pick up tank, tail and front fender new for $379. For that price difference, I can live with the gloss finish.
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You want the 1080 series vinyl from 3M... Its pretty easy to work with, just watch some how-to videos online and try at it.
A quick search on Amazon shows it as $15-18 for 1ft of a 5ft wide roll.. since you're doing smaller parts, a 2ft section could do the whole bike... or atleast be enough to play with.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=3m+1080+blue&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A3m+1080+blue (https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=3m+1080+blue&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3A3m+1080+blue)
I personally would do the 1080-G47 "Gloss Intense Blue". The metallics are too "flaky" for my taste.
The solid colors are easiest to work with. Anything with patterns or textures shows if you do it crooked compared to another part next to it.
3M also sends out sample packs of colors/textures for free.. I took a pic of one for you:
(http://fastgm.com/travis/20160112_102024%20%28Small%29.jpg)
larger pic: http://fastgm.com/travis/20160112_102024.jpg (http://fastgm.com/travis/20160112_102024.jpg)
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Thanks for the info. I had already ordered the vvivid blue chrome which as far as I can tell is a quality product. I opted not to do any platidip because at this time I am not looking for a matte finish.
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Cool. Don't worry, it's not too hard. It's easier if it has release valve holes, but it's not like you're doing a 5ft wide fender or hood. You can work out any bubbles easily.
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Whilst waiting for my SR I made plans to do this exact same wrap. I loved the blue chrome on the Mercedes electric concept. In the end I was happier with the red than expected and couldn't justify the cost. I hope you can get it to work.
(http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/12C1049_03.jpg)
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Plasti-dip isn't the best long-term solution. It's awesome for any material that doesn't contact another surface, but you'll run into peeling etc where your knees contact or where you kick the tail because you're too lazy to lift your leg high enough when jumping on the bike.
Perhaps a better option would be Duracoat or Cerakote. Both of these are used in firearm finishes and can withstand just about anything you can throw at them. You can even get patterns. Most are oven-bake to finish, so you can do it at your house.
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When I saw this thread go up, I thought about posting a rendering I made of what I wanted to do with my bike, but my photoshop skills are crap so I decided to just wait until the work was done.
It's done.
I realize purple isn't for everybody, but I love it. My only regret is that there isn't enough of it -- I'll probably remove some of the fake carbon fiber and replace it with more purple. I think I'm over the carbon fiber look.
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This purple vinyl has a pretty cool trick: it's retroreflective. In normal light, it looks normal, but this is what it does under a camera flash in dark conditions. It's the same as the white stuff they use on stop signs, just a different color. Imagine what this will do under headlights!
Better pics next time I have good light.
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Awesome! Any wrap or paint on my bike needs to be reflective in headlights. Almost all of my riding is done at night.
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When I saw this thread go up, I thought about posting a rendering I made of what I wanted to do with my bike, but my photoshop skills are crap so I decided to just wait until the work was done.
It's done.
I realize purple isn't for everybody, but I love it. My only regret is that there isn't enough of it -- I'll probably remove some of the fake carbon fiber and replace it with more purple. I think I'm over the carbon fiber look.
How much did it cost? Did you remove the plastic and monolith yourself or did you just take the whole bike in?
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That reflective effect looks super cool.
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Not exactly an inspired background but at least it's nice morning light. Looks like I need to work on holding the camera steady, though!
I got a sample of the purple retroreflective vinyl, decided I liked it well enough to buy a whole roll. I was going to wrap it myself but I chickened out and took it to a shop. He charged me $200 labor, plus $16/square foot for the carbon fiber vinyl. He did a crappy job but that's almost a good thing -- I'm convinced now that I can do at least as good a job, and even with the job he did, it looks pretty good. I don't recall exactly but I think a 15" x 30' roll of the retroreflective purple cost me around $150, and it only took maybe half the roll.
He didn't remove the battery box, just the side cover on each side, and applied the purple to the battery box while the side cover was off. I'm sure it was easier to apply the carbon fiber to the side cover on the bench, too...it's the most complicated shape he covered.
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It's not my color but I still think it looks awesome! Especially lit up by headlights!
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Yeah purple isn’t for me but I do really like it and it's nice to see some zero's in something other than the stock colors. I like the carbon fiber too but I can tell the front fender the lines are a bit wavy. My vinyl got lost in the mail so I am waiting for them to reship it.
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I got the wrap tonight and I noticed that it is already scratched. I was worried it would scratch easily. I attempted to work on the front fender and it is very difficult. I have the fender off the bike so my wife has to try to support it from underneath. I try to heat with one hand and hold the vinyl away with another but I don't seem to get enough stretch out to get rid of the wrinkles. I am not giving up yet but I need another game plan or it's not going to happen. :(
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so how did it turn out? were you able to get it done or did you go a different direction? Hope it worked out to your liking...
the zero SR I ordered mid- last week should be arriving this week. really want it to be all black (much like the new DSR color/paint). Still researching best (and affordable) ways to do this. Thinking vinyl film (not done by me... i failed coloring in elementary school) but perhaps not now that it seems there are a bunch of downsides.
anybody have any suggestions for alternatives to film or paint (don't think any other sensible solutions exist but worth asking)? anybody know of a good shop in LA region for this?
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anybody have any suggestions for alternatives to film or paint (don't think any other sensible solutions exist but worth asking)? anybody know of a good shop in LA region for this?
Look into Cerakote. It's an air-dry coating similar to paint but more durable. You can order the supplies and do it yourself or pay a professional. The firearms community has been using it for colors & patterns for years and they beat the snot out of their stuff.
If you're looking for something other than a wrap you put on your plastic and not a liquid that hardens into a coating... I think you're out of luck. The only other technique I can think of is to use your plastic to create a mold and manufacture your own out of whatever material you want. A carbon fiber Zero would be pretty awesome, but it would be more of a PITA than paint.
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Thanks for the gouge semper why --- former 0202 here (if you know what that all means)
Honestly, not a big fan of cerakote. Seen desert sand and haboobs trash it and wouldn't trust it on my bike. After doing more homework on wraps and sprays and whatnot yesterday, think i'm decided i'm just gonna keep the red on the SR and call it a day. Still looks sharp; I just would've preferred black on all surfaces. Not a deal breaker.
Douglass Motorcycles in San Bernardino said my bike is on its way today. Yut.
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anybody have any suggestions for alternatives to film or paint (don't think any other sensible solutions exist but worth asking)? anybody know of a good shop in LA region for this?
If you are just looking to go black you can buy 2015 Zero S plastic in black through a dealer. I have been quoted about $250 total for everything with color... front fender, tank, top and bottom section for tail.
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anybody have any suggestions for alternatives to film or paint (don't think any other sensible solutions exist but worth asking)? anybody know of a good shop in LA region for this?
If you are just looking to go black you can buy 2015 Zero S plastic in black through a dealer. I have been quoted about $250 total for everything with color... front fender, tank, top and bottom section for tail.
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That's awesome. I just pinged the dealership with an inquiry. $250 total. Mind blown. Thanks man-
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Yep, I blacked out my SR as soon as I got it. Hit it with a few coats of plastidip, but it's started to peel where my knees rub. Got some quotes on a spray / vinyl wrap then looked into black fairings straight from Zero - AU$379 for everything. They should arrive sometime in the next week or 2.
On a side note, if any of the Australian guys are in need of Red fairings, hit me up. I have the original 'frunk' and power tank fairing too.
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Yep, I blacked out my SR as soon as I got it. Hit it with a few coats of plastidip, but it's started to peel where my knees rub. Got some quotes on a spray / vinyl wrap then looked into black fairings straight from Zero - AU$379 for everything. They should arrive sometime in the next week or 2.
On a side note, if any of the Australian guys are in need of Red fairings, hit me up. I have the original 'frunk' and power tank fairing too.
So stoked I found out this was a possibility. Just ordered a set of black from my dealer for ≈$300USD including shipping (from Zero factory) + tax. Install a little more if I want. Do you plan to do it yourself? Assume it's just a matter of working through a bunch of bolts and connectors, taking a handful of components off and simply reinstalling with black (in lieu of red) in the same spots?
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Yep, I blacked out my SR as soon as I got it. Hit it with a few coats of plastidip, but it's started to peel where my knees rub. Got some quotes on a spray / vinyl wrap then looked into black fairings straight from Zero - AU$379 for everything. They should arrive sometime in the next week or 2.
On a side note, if any of the Australian guys are in need of Red fairings, hit me up. I have the original 'frunk' and power tank fairing too.
Do you plan to do it yourself? Assume it's just a matter of working through a bunch of bolts and connectors, taking a handful of components off and simply reinstalling with black (in lieu of red) in the same spots?
Yep, it's not hard at all.
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Yep, it's not hard at all.
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You've been chatting with my wife, haven't you? Ha!
So, no special tools, correct? Assuming a ratchet + socket set, maybe a couple wrenches? Nothing exotic?
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Thanks for the gouge semper why --- former 0202 here (if you know what that all means)
Let's just say I'm familiar but not a member. And there was no gouging intended.
Honestly, not a big fan of cerakote. Seen desert sand and haboobs trash it and wouldn't trust it on my bike.
Fair enough. I would only mention that you're unlikely to see desert sand do its thing on your Zero.
In any case, it looks like you have a better solution in hand.
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I got a sample of the purple retroreflective vinyl, decided I liked it well enough to buy a whole roll. I was going to wrap it myself but I chickened out and took it to a shop. He charged me $200 labor, plus $16/square foot for the carbon fiber vinyl. He did a crappy job but that's almost a good thing -- I'm convinced now that I can do at least as good a job, and even with the job he did, it looks pretty good. I don't recall exactly but I think a 15" x 30' roll of the retroreflective purple cost me around $150, and it only took maybe half the roll.
What brand and where did you buy the retroreflective vynyl from? I'm interested in doing this, but am having difficulty finding retroreflective vinyl rolls.
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What brand and where did you buy the retroreflective vynyl from? I'm interested in doing this, but am having difficulty finding retroreflective vinyl rolls.
This is where I got mine, though it seems the purple is no longer available. My bike will be even more unique now! Google "sign vinyl" or something like that if you want more sources -- I didn't find any intended for vehicles that were retroreflective. I think the vehicle stuff is easier to wrap odd shapes with, because the sign vinyl is thicker.
http://www.beacongraphics.com/supplies/avery/a7-reflective.html (http://www.beacongraphics.com/supplies/avery/a7-reflective.html)
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Thanks for the gouge semper why --- former 0202 here (if you know what that all means)
Let's just say I'm familiar but not a member. And there was no gouging intended.
Honestly, not a big fan of cerakote. Seen desert sand and haboobs trash it and wouldn't trust it on my bike.
Fair enough. I would only mention that you're unlikely to see desert sand do its thing on your Zero.
In any case, it looks like you have a better solution in hand.
that's funny. Ya, so, "gouge" in Marine parlance is slang for "advice" or "information"... as in, "thanks for the gouge, man, it helped." No worries, we talk weirdly. You rocking 'Semper Why' had me assuming incorrectly.
ordered the black factory plastic... should be another week and a half or so.
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This is where I got mine, though it seems the purple is no longer available. My bike will be even more unique now! Google "sign vinyl" or something like that if you want more sources -- I didn't find any intended for vehicles that were retroreflective. I think the vehicle stuff is easier to wrap odd shapes with, because the sign vinyl is thicker.
http://www.beacongraphics.com/supplies/avery/a7-reflective.html (http://www.beacongraphics.com/supplies/avery/a7-reflective.html)
Thanks! Did you use the Vector, Avery or Nikkalite for the high-vis?
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I used the Avery 1200. It was the only purple reflective vinyl I could find. Other (less unusual) colors are widely available by several manufacturers.
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Perfect! If you are happy with it, then I wanted to get the same material.
The price is $260 for Avery, and about $150 for Vector or Nikkalite. But I only want to do this once, so if Avery is the best, then that's what I want. Cheers!
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I found the same wrap a little cheaper (30" and 5 yards, instead of 10 yards) at:
http://www.signoutletstore.com/product-p/p31-2.htm (http://www.signoutletstore.com/product-p/p31-2.htm)
Right now I'm looking into a couple of local artists to see if I can get some sweet art on my bike, but probably it will be too expensive and I'll opt for the wrap.
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How are you guys planning on cutting the vinyl to size? Is there a template available or are you guys eyeballing. I'm horrible at 'eyeballing' and fear that if I attempted this...well, it just won't look good. :D
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