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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: Kill3rT0fu on July 03, 2023, 06:38:19 AM
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Are there any spools or stands you guys recommend for lifting the front or rear of the S model? I'm about to pull the trigger on one with an L bracket for the frame but I'd rather get spools or something more secure, especially for the front
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I've actually been thinking about this after lifting my bike yesterday to align the belt. I also have a stand with the L brackets and it's a piece of shit that twists, I've found a better stand but it only comes with hooks for spools. There's nowhere to bolt them on the swingarm like many bikes so the only option really is to go through the axle. I'll probably end up buying these ones, I've previously bought some axle sliders from the same seller but removed them as they wouldn't actually touched the ground if the bike was laid down.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233547889171?fits=UKM_Make%3AZero&hash=item366089fa13:g:WcIAAOSwL5Beggnv
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I am also looking for a way to lift my Zero S 2023.
I am lifting my FXS with this scissor jack (https://www.amazon.fr/Arebos-Bequielle-Hydraulique-Plate-forme-%C3%A9l%C3%A9vatrice/dp/B0198BGOLU/), and I put some rubber spacing (https://www.amazon.fr/vibration-etm-caoutchouc-isonoriant-d%C3%A9paisseur/dp/B06Y1D4126/) between the scissor jack and the FXS, since the bottom of the FXS is not completely flat because there are 3 bolt heads sticking out.
Here are pictures of the FXS and of the bottom of my S 2023 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/VDmvbjVdWH9VVwEW8).
In this old post (https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=7311.0) there is a video of somebody lifting his DSR with a scissor jack. But if you watch at 15s in this video, you see that the bottom of his bike is completely different from the bottom of my S 2023.
a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wrPLi9Yags)
I asked to my Zero dealer but he was not able to tell me if the bottom of the Zero S 2023 is strong enough to support the bike's weight...
Can somebody tell us ?
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Not a good idea, the S models have a plastic belly pan where as the DS one is aluminium. I've lifted my DS using a scissor jack before, it does the job but it's not the most stable setup.
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A scissor jack works OK to lift my 2018 S with power tank - a total of 452 pounds. It has a plastic belly pan that is not completely flat. Perhaps it is stiffened by the metal OBC box that is located directly above it.
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Ouch ! You are right. I did not realize that the belly pan was made of plastic on the S. Thanks!
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I replied above to TheRan, but I did not see Richard's reply. So perhaps it is possible lift it even with the plastic belly pan...
Richard, I put 2 pictures of the bottom of my S in a link of my previous message. Is the 2023 belly pan the same as yours?
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What Id be worried about is what is UNDER that plastic belly pan that is getting smooshed once that pan flexes up and mashed against it when lifting the bike.
Aaron
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Do you think that these paddock stands are a good choice ?
https://www.xlmoto.com/product/proworks-2-in-1-paddock-stand_pid-PM-0056179
They are sold with 3 different kinds of adaptators but I do not understand how the one with a small bar perpendicular to it works. There is a video where it is used for the front wheel here, but it does not help me a lot...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paidVD0vI3A
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I replied above to TheRan, but I did not see Richard's reply. So perhaps it is possible lift it even with the plastic belly pan...
Richard, I put 2 pictures of the bottom of my S in a link of my previous message. Is the 2023 belly pan the same as yours?
I don't know for sure. It could be that the material, design, or thickness of the belly pan has changed since 2018.
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Do you think that these paddock stands are a good choice ?
https://www.xlmoto.com/product/proworks-2-in-1-paddock-stand_pid-PM-0056179
They are sold with 3 different kinds of adaptators but I do not understand how the one with a small bar perpendicular to it works. There is a video where it is used for the front wheel here, but it does not help me a lot...: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paidVD0vI3A
I suppose some forks might have a hole on the bottom that those pegs could go in to. Personally I wouldn't go for a stand made from round tube, especially one made of multiple parts. That's what I have and it just twists where it bolts together. I'm going to go for something like this.
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/S/aplus-media/sc/6b274b5c-b5b0-43e4-858d-75a576274899.__CR0,0,970,600_PT0_SX970_V1___.jpg)
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Some of the adapters are to go up into the fork, some are i guess you could say hollow, it goes up into the fork and lifts it. If that is not doable, then they got the hooks to grab the tire and lift it.
Which one to get?
The one with the LONGEST HANDLE. granted the front end may not be too bad but some of these heavier bikes (cough cough ELECTRIC BIKES) can be a real mf'er to heft up onto a paddock stand. you are going to want as many inches of torque leverage you can get off it! you will want it sturdy metal too. Some of the cheaper ones are kind of rickety. Do you want your 30k bike weebling and wobbling on a swaying stand while you are trying to work on it?
Aaron
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OK. Thanks to you all. I learned a lot from you today.
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The zeromanual says that the plastic belly pan can support the S or SR weight: https://zeromanual.com/wiki/Lift
And it refers to the thread Rear swingarm stand for 16 SR rec request (https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=6589.0) where the problem is discussed.
This thread also shows a picture of a 2016 SR belly pan that looks exactly like my 2023 S. I expect that the plastic quality has not been changed to worse over time...
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I took the risk to lift the Zero S from the bottom with the scissor jack and it seems to work fine.
Do not forget the rubber spacer that minimizes areas with high pressure.
Images here : https://photos.app.goo.gl/VDmvbjVdWH9VVwEW8
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Scissor jack stand is definitely safe for the Zero S. I’ve been using it on my2018 SR. Also, I found a way to use rear stand. Please see pictures.
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Are those the R&G adaptors? I keep meaning to order some.
https://www.rg-racing.com/browsetype/Cotton_Reels/Zero/DSR/CR0081BK/
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Yes. They work really well. Put in sliders/spools for added protection.
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I did have sliders that mounted through the axle (front and rear) and ended up taking them off as the handle bar and footpeg end up touching the ground first, at least on my DS. Do they have markings on them for alignment like the stock ones? It doesn't look like they do from the product photos, but I know R&G likes to use 3D printed prototypes for that.
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I used to have the axle mounted sliders front and rear but I took them off. For the same reasons.
They have markings for alignment but I measured and marked the swing arm so I know where to start. I also measured the drive belt tension before tightening the axle.
The scissor jack helped me a lot when I replaced the front and rear tires, which I did at the same time, as well as when aligned the front wheel.
I got the Dynamoto stands front and rear. It’s a little bit pricy but it’s worth it to me, having a limited space in our garage. It can place my bike anywhere when needed. I can also use it when I get another bike.