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Ribelle RS+. Weight is approx the same as the SS9. Felt *much* heavier than my SR/F+Charge tank - mostly because the weight is much higher up. Although I did find that made it handle a little better than the Zero... the SR/F feels very stable with its low COG but this of course has the side effect of needing to lean it far further to get it to turn at the same rate.

Cas

From my test ride - weight & height, price, chain (noise and grime), high likelihood of losing license  count against it. Not being an owner though I couldn't comment on anything else.

Cas

My dealer specifically mentioned the Gen13 14.4kWH packs. They said that essentially, every single one of them eventually failed, so they've just got on and quietly replaced every one of them with 15.6kWH packs.

Cas

The depreciation on all Zeros in the UK is absolutely savage and you just have to accept that economy is not the reason you're buying one, it's because they're cool and different and a good ride.

My SR/F is ~4 years old now, has done 16k miles, cost me ~£20k, and is now worth just £8k in part ex. When the battery warranty runs out it will further plummet in value.

If you want economy you have to use them, a lot, and keep them a long time.

Cas

That's about the price they should be charging before they start flash sales and discount incentives...

Cas

Well therein lies the problem ... the majority of people I think already have a car, and will therefore only do a smaller proportion of their annual mileage on the bike. 10k miles a year in a car is normal in the UK, and 5k miles on the bike is actually slightly above average... and unfortunately with those figures, bikes work out pretty much as expensive as cars. This sort of blows the "cheaper to get around on" message out of the water and then you've lost a large part of the interesting newsworthy angle of motorcycles as useful or practical means of transport for a lot of people. The market has created these conditions by more or less making motorcycles too expensive in various ways, relegating them to toys.

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Dacia Spring. Granted it's a bit of a crap car, but it costs less than a Zero SR, and its battery is nearly twice the size. Now that's newsworthy. If they can make an entire car with a much bigger battery cheaper than an SR, why can't Zero make bikes for half the price and still turn a decent profit...?

Cas

This is hardly surprising of course, as they are exactly twice as expensive as they should be, so nobody buys them. All that muttering and grumbling about range and charging time is a red herring. It's all about the price.

Cas

It looks fabulous, and likely streets ahead in terms of build quality compared to Zero's offerings for the same money. Would seriously consider one if I hadn't got a Zero already.

Cas