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Title: It's January!
Post by: MikeL on January 26, 2023, 08:59:32 PM
Tom did you get your Experia? Anyone else take delivery yet?
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: DonTom on January 27, 2023, 12:08:01 AM
Tom did you get your Experia? Anyone else take delivery yet?
If you mean me, (Don), no. But the local dealer says I should get mine in February. I will post here the day I have it or hear any other related news.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: most on January 27, 2023, 12:28:06 AM
No Tom here  ;), however my bike was picked up by my dealer in Modena two weeks ago (along with a second ExPee) and delivered to my house yesterday  ;D. And there is a third one delivered in southern Germany yesterday to the buyer.
Nice side presents: Energica motorcycle carpet and the ICCB charger.

Panniers not mounted but also delivered. Accessories like center stand and GPS bracket not available from Energica. No printed manual alongside the welcome package, just the maintenance booklet.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: MikeL on January 27, 2023, 12:33:54 AM
If you mean me, (Don), no. But the local dealer says I should get mine in February. I will post here the day I have it or hear any other related news.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

Yup, sorry meant for you and anyone else haha. I should have remembered you always sign off as 'Don.'
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: DonTom on January 27, 2023, 08:04:00 AM
Yup, sorry meant for you and anyone else haha. I should have remembered you always sign off as 'Don.'
No problem. Many people have called me Tom perhaps because of my username. Tom was my same-sex mate, we spent 42 years together, but he died of cancer in year 2016. We were legally married too, since when such became legal. But we were together since 1974 until he died in year 2016.


I rode down to A&S cycles in Roseville, CA today. On my Moto Guzzi, for a change.  They have no new news, but they were told I should expect my Experia sometime in February.  No idea if early, mid or late February.


I will leave in my motorhome in a few days. I will still be online. I will get an email when they get the bike, but I will not rush back for it and I will just enjoy my trip. I will take my Zero DS with me as I always do on my RV trips.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: AsHperson on January 27, 2023, 10:39:52 AM
I haven't hopped in here in a minute but I've been looking forward to seeing maybe the first people get their Experias. I've one of the early reservation holders at Calmoto and I'm hoping for sooner than later in February! Originally had a SS9+ on order in May then switched to the Experia because it's my commuter and all around everything vehicle.
Super excited!!!
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: DonTom on January 27, 2023, 10:53:13 AM
I haven't hopped in here in a minute but I've been looking forward to seeing maybe the first people get their Experias. I've one of the early reservation holders at Calmoto and I'm hoping for sooner than later in February! Originally had a SS9+ on order in May then switched to the Experia because it's my commuter and all around everything vehicle.
Super excited!!!
I purchased my 2020 SS9- CalMoto (in Mt. View) in August of 2019. I find it to be a very fun bike, I just wish there were more working CCS charge stations out in the middle of nowhere. That's more important than range, IMO. I prefer more stops more often anyway, than longer stops half as often.


I will probably ride it just as much after I get my Experia. I don't really care much when I get mine as I will be leaving on an RV trip in a day or two. I probably won't be back for several weeks anyway.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: AsHperson on January 27, 2023, 11:09:36 AM
I haven't hopped in here in a minute but I've been looking forward to seeing maybe the first people get their Experias. I've one of the early reservation holders at Calmoto and I'm hoping for sooner than later in February! Originally had a SS9+ on order in May then switched to the Experia because it's my commuter and all around everything vehicle.
Super excited!!!
I purchased my 2020 SS9- CalMoto (in Mt. View) in August of 2019. I find it to be a very fun bike, I just wish there were more working CCS charge stations out in the middle of nowhere. That's more important than range, IMO. I prefer more stops more often anyway, than longer stops half as often.

It would make a big difference to have a 6kw charger over the 3, I'd happily pay a couple grand more for that because I got so used to 6kw on my past SR/S. If I can imagine half the speed, the is best for charging at work or home for the most part, or a top up at a restaurant. You've had yours for a while now, how do you see using AC charging? I generally don't expect to use DC unless I'm on a road trip or having a fun weekend is what I'm thinking.
I will probably ride it just as much after I get my Experia. I don't really care much when I get mine as I will be leaving on an RV trip in a day or two. I probably won't be back for several weeks anyway.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: jotjotde on January 27, 2023, 06:08:38 PM
No problem. Many people have called me Tom perhaps because of my username. Tom was my same-sex mate, we spent 42 years together, but he died of cancer in year 2016. We were legally married too, since when such became legal. But we were together since 1974 until he died in year 2016.

Sorry to hear about your loss!
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: MikeL on January 28, 2023, 12:36:15 AM
No problem. Many people have called me Tom perhaps because of my username. Tom was my same-sex mate, we spent 42 years together, but he died of cancer in year 2016. We were legally married too, since when such became legal. But we were together since 1974 until he died in year 2016.

I will leave in my motorhome in a few days. I will still be online. I will get an email when they get the bike, but I will not rush back for it and I will just enjoy my trip. I will take my Zero DS with me as I always do on my RV trips.

-Don-  Auburn, CA

Sorry for your loss Don.

Enjoy the RV trip! Where do you usually travel?
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: DonTom on January 28, 2023, 02:19:31 AM
Sorry for your loss Don.

Enjoy the RV trip! Where do you usually travel?
This time of year, always south. I often don't know exactly where I am going until I get there.   I always take my Zero DS with me.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: Zekoslav_Mrkva on January 28, 2023, 02:25:42 AM
They have no new news, but they were told I should expect my Experia sometime in February.  No idea if early, mid or late February.


Did they specify February 2023?
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: DonTom on January 28, 2023, 04:42:19 AM
Did they specify February 2023?
No more than they specified the year when we were told September.


-Don-  Auburn, CA
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: Oilcan on February 02, 2023, 07:16:37 AM
Looks like another Experia has be delivered in the USA. Zero Fun tried to post a live stream video on YouTube today but it didn’t come through that well. You can’t really tell that much about what he was trying to say.
I hope more are coming soon.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: DonTom on February 02, 2023, 08:16:49 AM
Looks like another Experia has be delivered in the USA. Zero Fun tried to post a live stream video on YouTube today but it didn’t come through that well. You can’t really tell that much about what he was trying to say.I hope more are coming soon.
I expect to hear about mine soon, but no hurry. I am on an RV trip with my Zero DS. It has been over 70F/21C here. (https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/mecca/92254/daily-weather-forecast/342567) Nice riding weather. Reno has record cold and lot of snow and ice on the ground.


I am at 200' below sea level here.



-Don-  Salton Sea SRA, CA
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: AsHperson on February 02, 2023, 09:25:25 AM
I hope this means that the first real wave of Experias has landed and are being unpacked in SSF!!

On another note, has anyone been able to get more details on the 5y warranty such as terms and milage limitations?
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: Specter on February 02, 2023, 12:54:51 PM
I thought the 5 year warranty was just on the battery, and if it goes bad, they fix / replace it.

Aaron
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: AsHperson on February 02, 2023, 08:52:28 PM
Yeah, the factory battery warranty lasts until 31000 miles or 3 years, which I'll hit in less than half that time
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: Specter on February 02, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
Damn son thats a lot of riding !!

Where are you at now mile / km wise and what is batteries capacity sitting at now .vs. when it was new?

Aaron
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: AsHperson on February 02, 2023, 10:30:22 PM
Still waiting on an Experia VIN to be assigned to me. I don't have or care to have a car so everyday motorcycle riding gets me to an average of 25k miles a year.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: Specter on February 02, 2023, 10:52:26 PM
wow, that's going to be an awesome case study on the durability of the batteries for sure.  I for one will be very interested to see how it holds up over the next few years.  Most people may put a few K a year on their bikes, but you,  hats off !

Aaron
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: Oilcan on February 07, 2023, 07:15:16 PM
Well January came and went. It’s now February and still no Experia. If you live in the US and have not already been given your VIN and delivery information the wait just got a lot longer. I ordered my Experia on June 2nd and I was not one of the lucky people to get one of the first bikes. I talked to them yesterday and was told the factory is building bikes and there is another container ready to ship from Italy but they have not been given a date for the ship to sail yet and to call back in two weeks for more information. They told me it takes about 45 days once the ship sailed for the bikes to reach  California. That takes it to mid May. They will then need to prep the bikes and ship them to the customers. That’s probably another two weeks. Now we are around June 1st.
I think I am done waiting. If you go on the website and configure what was the launch edition the price for the bike with the same options is slightly less. There are also more colors available. I think I will just wait until next year when they have bikes in stock at the dealer where I can walk in and ride out that day. May get a discount too for last year’s model.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: Specter on February 08, 2023, 12:19:45 AM
Sorry to hear about your wait there and yah it gets real frustrating when people won't talk to you.
I don't think your problem is going to be fixed that easily though.  Once the things do start hitting the states, I don't think you will find many dealers with an overflowing stock for you to just waltz in, sit on one and say ok ill take it.  I have a feeling they'll be flying out the doors about as fast as they can take them in for a while.

That is, unless they put the world into a global depression and nobody can afford one anymore because the price of food went up 4500 percent and your motorcycle payment just went for the BLT you had for lunch...

Aaron
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: AsHperson on February 08, 2023, 08:11:14 AM
Oh no! That's a big pain. I put my deposit in in around may of last year. I was really looking forward to it in September so I'd have heated grips for the winter. I've been slowing down with my hand on the clutch and hugging my engine on the freeway.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: DonTom on February 08, 2023, 08:54:24 AM
I ordered my Experia on June 2nd and I was not one of the lucky people to get one of the first bikes. I talked to them yesterday and was told the factory is building bikes and there is another container ready to ship from Italy but they have not been given a date for the ship to sail yet and to call back in two weeks for more information. They told me it takes about 45 days once the ship sailed for the bikes to reach  California. That takes it to mid May. They will then need to prep the bikes and ship them to the customers. That’s probably another two weeks. Now we are around June 1st.
It is beginning to seem Energica is getting a LOT worse than Zero ever was!  I ordered mine on June 1, paid the 3K$ on the first day possible (June 2nd) and was promised I would have it in September. Tom Hoff told me on the phone he was sure I would have it in September.  I have not heard an official word from anybody since then. I am getting all my info. here in this forum and nowhere else. My local dealer also gets no information. Dealer (owner) has made calls and sent emails he gets no replies. Just leaves voice mails and emails that never get answered.


I made the correct decision to go on an RV trip because it looks like I won't see the bike for another few months. Then perhaps more delays. I wonder if a year will be enough time. That will be June 1 for me.



-Don-  Anga Borrego Desert State Park, CA
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: AsHperson on February 08, 2023, 09:00:15 AM
Not sure about that one with Zero for me. For the 2 years I had "owned" a 2020 SR/S, I was able to ride it for half that due to limitless warranty issues and all with it finally getting bought back last November after way too much work and hassle for not enough money.

How's the desert btw?
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: DonTom on February 08, 2023, 10:19:56 AM
Not sure about that one with Zero for me. For the 2 years I had "owned" a 2020 SR/S, I was able to ride it for half that due to limitless warranty issues and all with it finally getting bought back last November after way too much work and hassle for not enough money.

How's the desert btw?
I have heard such stories before. But my own experience with Zero has been reasonable. I had the battery replaced under warranty with the Zero DS I have with me right now. I have no complaints, took a few weeks and I had a 7.2 KWH battery as a free warranty replacement for my 6.5 KWH battery.

Not hearing a word from Energica after the bike being promised in September is not reasonable, IMO.


I came here for the nice weather. 75F/24C here, perfect days, IMO. Perhaps was a little warmer today, felt like above 80F/27C  here today.


-Don-  Borrego Springs, CA
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: AsHperson on February 08, 2023, 11:08:32 AM
Not sure about that one with Zero for me. For the 2 years I had "owned" a 2020 SR/S, I was able to ride it for half that due to limitless warranty issues and all with it finally getting bought back last November after way too much work and hassle for not enough money.

How's the desert btw?
I have heard such stories before. But my own experience with Zero has been reasonable. I had the battery replaced under warranty with the Zero DS I have with me right now. I have no complaints, took a few weeks and I had a 7.2 KWH battery as a free warranty replacement for my 6.5 KWH battery.

Not hearing a word from Energica after the bike being promised in September is not reasonable, IMO.


I came here for the nice weather. 75F/24C here, perfect days, IMO. Perhaps was a little warmer today, felt like above 80F/27C  here today.


-Don-  Borrego Springs, CA

Nice, that's actually a good time getting the battery replacement. I did here there are some bugs with the Experia software so sopefully some of those will be ironed out soon. I hope I can have some time to learn the bike and the DC networks before my big trip in July.
I still have not heard any details on the 5 year battery warranty.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: Richard230 on February 08, 2023, 08:52:24 PM
I have owned three Zeros over the years, all of which were special ordered through my dealer, the last two with power tanks. I would pay a $500 deposit to the dealer (the same as most ICE dealers ask for a special ordered model around here) and the bike would arrive two weeks later. My 2014 bike had the power tank installed by the dealer upon its delivery from Zero and my 2018 model's power tank was installed by Zero as the bike was being assembled at the factory. So I have never had a problem with delayed delivery after signing a purchase agreement. And fortunately I have never had a problem with hardware or software on my last two Zeros, although the 2012 model did have a couple of formal recalls and was eventually bought back by Zero for cash.

Don: But asking $3K seems a bit much for a deposit to secure the sale of an Energica, especially when they are in such high demand and if you are not asking for unique equipment that would make it difficult to sell to another customer if you bailed out of the deal. Needing to wait many months longer for delivery after the dealer has your money, seems unreasonable to me, especially when there is no explanation for the delivery delay. Your $3K deposit should at least be enough to keep you in a tight loop regarding delivery of your bike. My feeling is that the dealer should return most of your deposit to you until the bike arrives in the U.S., if nothing else as a goodwill gesture - assuming that he hasn't had to send your deposit to Energica to get them to manufacture the bike, which would be something that I have never heard of before.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: most on February 09, 2023, 12:38:05 AM
There are no deposits required from dealers in Germany, doesn’t matter if you order an Experia or Ribelle/SS9/Ego. Sounds to me that this is a pure dealer request but not an Energica requirement.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: smithy on February 09, 2023, 01:28:16 AM
I've finally got my VIN for my Experia....#029 which I assume means it was the 29th Experia built..?? Apparently the very first Experia to touch Australian soil. ;D

Pic below is of my bike being removed from the shipping crate late last week at my local-ish dealer - AEMC, (Australian Electric Motorcycle Co), at the Gold Coast near Brisbane Australia.

Smithy.

Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: DonTom on February 09, 2023, 12:07:52 PM
I've finally got my VIN for my Experia....#029 which I assume means it was the 29th Experia built..?? Apparently the very first Experia to touch Australian soil. ;D

Pic below is of my bike being removed from the shipping crate late last week at my local-ish dealer - AEMC, (Australian Electric Motorcycle Co), at the Gold Coast near Brisbane Australia.

Smithy.
My Experia Vin is 018.


-Don-  Anza Borrego Desert State Park, CA
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: electrictwowheeler on February 11, 2023, 01:01:21 PM
I was at Pro Italia in Glendale CA today to test ride an SS9 and there was an Experia sitting in the show room. What a surprise! Looks just as good in real life as all the pictures. Does this belong to someone on the forum? Congratulations!
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: ddennis669 on February 11, 2023, 01:21:06 PM
I wish it was mine but it's not. I spoke with Pro Italia today to check on my Experia order from June 1. They seemed impressed with the fit and finish of the Experia.

They did say there are 30 more on a boat headed to the US. Expected in dealers within two months.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: AsHperson on February 12, 2023, 05:12:30 AM
wow, that's going to be an awesome case study on the durability of the batteries for sure.  I for one will be very interested to see how it holds up over the next few years.  Most people may put a few K a year on their bikes, but you,  hats off !

Aaron

As I still wait for my VIN, I'm doing some research looking for the owners manual and am surprised to find they do not have any manuals or support pages on the Energica website at all. The one thing I was able to find is that the 5y warranty is included on orders from 2022 and is available for purchase on newer orders, The new extended warranty lasts until 47,000 miles and makes good sense to me. As a heavy user, I would definitely take advantage of it within the 5 years but most likely not within 47,000 miles(or within the first 2 years for me). This is good to hear because it lowers my expected cost by about $1.1k and I may not need a loan at all since my Zero got bought back(they still screwed me on that one after reflection, but nothing I can do about it).

With how the warranty is structured, I'm more incentivized to take proper care of it vs my zero by charging it to 70-80% overnight and doing what I can to avoid leaving it at 100% unless I'm intentionally balancing cells. On the zero, I'd go from 100-15% just about everyday and 15-100% every night with a plan to utilize their open to debate 5y unlimited mile warranty.

I believe I saw the info about the extended warranty to 2022 orders in another thread but forgot about it.
https://www.energicamotor.com/us/warranty/
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: smithy on February 12, 2023, 06:22:22 AM
Owners manual rev1 here..:

https://m.facebook.com/download/473183321647361/END010602_EXPERIA-interno_EN_rev01_2022.pdf?av=1329070356&eav=AfbXZck6hk8cv5rOOKcmWXMjfNa0bMit55n1fm6MEQFMLrgm5qm0aczNHxJB-LtnNf0&paipv=0&hash=Acr7-0cR8m6hsPzwYvo&refid=18&__tn__=HH-R

Smithy
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: AsHperson on February 12, 2023, 06:48:29 AM
Owners manual rev1 here..:

https://m.facebook.com/download/473183321647361/END010602_EXPERIA-interno_EN_rev01_2022.pdf?av=1329070356&eav=AfbXZck6hk8cv5rOOKcmWXMjfNa0bMit55n1fm6MEQFMLrgm5qm0aczNHxJB-LtnNf0&paipv=0&hash=Acr7-0cR8m6hsPzwYvo&refid=18&__tn__=HH-R

Smithy

Thanks, is it hosted anywhere else? I don't have a FB account.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: smithy on February 12, 2023, 10:35:49 AM

Thanks, is it hosted anywhere else? I don't have a FB account.

Not that l'm aware of. There's a pretty healthy Energica group on Facebook.

Smithy.
Title: Re: It's January!
Post by: Specter on February 12, 2023, 06:32:09 PM
Unless you REALLY have to get those extra few ounces out of the battery.  Running them 20 / 80 will be so much better for them in the long haul.

I have close to 100 KW storage on my house, yes I know apples to oranges but they ARE batteries nonetheless.  After a year or so of tinkering, I finally convinced myself that NO you really do NOT need to squeeze that extra kilowatt out of it, and in return you double the expected life expectancy of the battery at XX capacity remaining.

For those of us who may only put a few K a year on the bike, this genuinely is a non ssue, but for those who ride them like us hillbilly's ride our pickups, that can become significant.

Aaron