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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: noyesknifer on November 12, 2019, 06:50:44 AM
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I've had my SR/F for 2k miles now, and I have the latest firmware 5V02 I think it's called. I applied the update like a day after it released, so like the 7th of November. Today I noticed that my brake regen was no longer turning on when depressing the front brake lever, and I can further confirm that the front break lever is not communicating with the computer because it will not turn off cruise control either. The latest error code I received was error 8 which is update failed, but it always says update failed even though it succeeded, so I have not had a code since the update. turning the motorcycle on and off does not fix the problem. I have not modified the lever at all since I got the motorcycle. Any ideas on how to fix it before I go back to the dealer?
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I had something very similar happened to me. The dangerous thing is that your brake light is not being lit either. The dealer replaced the contact switch that is part of the front brake assembly and everything works as it should now. Go to your dealer immediately because this is a safety issue.
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yeah, you're right the brake light is not illuminating. Guess I have to take it to the dealer.
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Does it work with rear brake?
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It was working with the rear brake yeah.
I was reading the thread vinceherman started when he had this issue and one user suggested tightening some screws under the base of the lever. For future reference these screws are Torx 6 size, so if you have an SR/F I suggest buying a Torx screw with the size 6 head in case this happens to you. So I tightened those screws and the brake light started coming on again when I pressed the front brake lever. Guess there's no need to go the dealer yay
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Had the same problem. The microswitch on my front break lever was replaced under warranty. It sometimes worked again after wiggling the wires. But no proper fix. You really need to replace the part.
edit: in my case it happened after a few very wet rides. I think it's not as sealed for water as it should be being up front unprotected. Had a first wet ride today with the new switch. If it fails again I'll know for sure and probably make some splash protection for it after having it replaced again by the dealer. I use my SR/F all year round in any weather so this problem might return sooner or later.
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in my case it happened after a few very wet rides.
I also had a number of wet rides before the failure so we have at least 2 data points supporting the switch seal. :)
I have had a fair number of wet rides since the replacement with no issue.
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Just for reference I've never had a wet ride before
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It does sound like this switch deserves some more ingress protection or a better fastening.
Do keep in mind that if this happens to you, the rear brake pedal has an inherently more reliable sensor to help invoke regen/lights/etc. which is enough to get you home to check the microswitch.
For what it's worth, there are more common motorcycle models with similar brake lever sensor issues - the new platform is showing a lack of robustness around a faulty switch, though, which probably deserves a little attention.
Does anyone have a clear photo of the switch? Particularly one that's had some trouble, in case the loose position is visually distinguishable or something.
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My faulty one is gone now. I do remember it still clicked and it worked from time to time.
Indeed rear brake is what I used while waiting for the new part to arrive. Took 1 week. The rear isn't so sensitive to the touch so you really have to use it to get the light working. Almost as if it is pressure sensitive instead of a mechanical switch.
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Glad it's resolved.
The rear pedal sensor is definitely a pressure sensor and not a mechanical deflection switch.
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This morning the front brake sensor stopped working again, so I think I do have to go to the dealer. This sensor should seriously be a safety recall for all SR/Fs because it causes the brake lights not to illuminate.
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If it affects more people, certainly. Fortunately or unfortunately, it's just a standard part.
You should really never be using the front brake without the rear, though. C'mon, tap the back.
-Crissa
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You should really never be using the front brake without the rear, though. C'mon, tap the back.
I can ride for miles and miles in stop and go traffic with my middle, ring and pinky fingers covering the front brake lever ready to squeeze. But the contortion needed with the high SR/F peg location to cover the rear brake with my foot is only sustainable for a short period.
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But the contortion needed with the high SR/F peg location to cover the rear brake with my foot is only sustainable for a short period.
That's not good and seriously sounds like an ergonomics problem! Also, the rear brake is slightly easier to repair and otherwise takes less wear so you really want to use it as much as possible.
Also the msc instructor would not be happy ^-^ (tho from all my bicycling time I always cover the front brake, too.)
-Crissa
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But the contortion needed with the high SR/F peg location to cover the rear brake with my foot is only sustainable for a short period.
That is actually what I noticed also when I just was test-sitting (not test-riding) the bike for a short time at the EICMA in Milano. It is one point which let's me hesitate a bit ...
In Switzerland one learns to ride motorcycles with his own bike (even the big ones). I plan to learn on a new Zero SR/F. However, may be I wait with the decision what to buy until one knows more about the new bike coming next spring probably.