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Makes And Models => Lightning => Topic started by: MVetter on February 22, 2020, 12:06:24 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrgZNJ9dcmQ
Getting more footage and data over the next few days.
edit- Part 2 is up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPuAoGeR8Bg
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Geez, dude, showing two illegal passes in the video?
-Crissa
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One should always keep a 15% speed differential compared to car traffic, and it is much less safe to ride in the middle of a single line of cars.
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This is likely too much to ask since it is owned by someone else, but can you see the controller? Is it Sevcon? What is it's max amp output?
I know the motor is encased for the cooling so it would be hard to see if it was capable of the HP to get up to it's advertised top speed if given the 20 kWh battery source.
Basically can the other components achieve the bikes specs if given the larger battery or does it look like it's just not up to spec period.
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So uh. It does not appear there is any sort of battery case. The cells are only obscured by the carbon bodywork aka the tank area. They appear to be directly bolted to the chassis. Strike owner Kevin Barnard posted some pictures of his bike on Instagram with the bodywork removed; it's just straight cells underneath. I confirmed that yesterday. I mean that's one way to make the bike lighter. No battery case.
edit- Carbon is conductive.
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So uh. It does not appear there is any sort of battery case. The cells are only obscured by the carbon bodywork aka the tank area. They appear to be directly bolted to the chassis. Strike owner Kevin Barnard posted some pictures of his bike on Instagram with the bodywork removed; it's just straight cells underneath. I confirmed that yesterday. I mean that's one way to make the bike lighter. No battery case.
edit- Carbon is conductive.
The Strike does sound like a work in progress. ::)
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Traffic laws are for the lowest common denominator and if you don't disobey them constantly you probably have little business in the very dangerous business of riding a motorcycle on public roads.
I thought it's a good review. But would like to see more technical details. Maybe a teardown.
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That's exactly what we want, as well!
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There is a little light regard for traffic laws and there's tailgating and passing in restricted lanes that should contain stopping and left turning traffic.
All three things are the highest killers of motorcyclists.
-Crissa
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Hey Crissa you’re in Santa Cruz right? If you want to see the Strike we’re bringing it to the Re-Cycle Garage tomorrow around noon.
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So uh. It does not appear there is any sort of battery case. The cells are only obscured by the carbon bodywork aka the tank area. They appear to be directly bolted to the chassis. Strike owner Kevin Barnard posted some pictures of his bike on Instagram with the bodywork removed; it's just straight cells underneath. I confirmed that yesterday. I mean that's one way to make the bike lighter. No battery case.
edit- Carbon is conductive.
The Strike does sound like a work in progress. ::)
Indeed. And scary.
Even if the pack is "just" 150V rather the 300V (or whatever higher voltage the Carbon edition is supposed to have to support CCS), that's still high enough to be a serious hazard to the rider in case of a crash.
IMO That shouldn't be road-legal except for experimental/testing purposes by a manufacturer.
I also finally made it through the podcast. I'm now a bit concerned for the owner... This is not a good first bike for a new rider.
(MVetter, thanks to you & Brandon for the review & podcast!)
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Is this the high end model? If it is then it is seriously underwhelming
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Yes. It has been said repeatedly by Lightning that only Carbon Editions, the high end, are delivering first. This is a Carbon Edition, one of 4 I'm able to verify has been delivered. This is the only one I've been able to see in person so far.
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Maybe that great partnership in China wasn't such a good idea.
Neng pian jiu pian (missing the accents)
If you can get away with cheating, then cheat. (Chinese idiom)
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https://soundcloud.com/re-cyclegarage/podcast-356-its-got-a-heartbeat
Go about 40 minutes in.
Crissa, what were your thoughts?
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I thought the design looked brilliant. But it does seem like they're having trouble getting a finished product.
I think that the risk of the battery bricks is more one of durability than actual risk. It's the internal design that makes it likely to burn, anyhow. The shell was undeniably too light, without proper edging to prevent cracking and wear damage. And not having set the bars to the proper turning radius seemed weird. There were a few ports that needed caps and boots, but the wiring was definitely done to a higher level that the fit on my Zero and maybe even the SR/F.
Definitely a weird choice for a first bike, but possibly easier to handle (as opposed to maintain) than the Energica.
-Crissa
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Part 2 is up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPuAoGeR8Bg
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If the bike really had 300 miles on it when the rider picked it up then it sounds like he bought a demo bike and paid the price of a new one! I have bought a few new bikes and none had more than only a few miles on them. Certainly not 300 miles! Wow!
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If the bike really had 300 miles on it when the rider picked it up then it sounds like he bought a demo bike and paid the price of a new one! I have bought a few new bikes and none had more than only a few miles on them. Certainly not 300 miles! Wow!
My 2010 Electric Motorsport GPR-S came with 280 miles on the odometer from the factory. It died about 1000 miles later. :(
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The end of the part 2 video (@ 3:28) says Lightning has
shown some potential progress on the paid for CCS chargers. It is possible these may be added onto the already delivered bikes soon.
How so? Without also changing the battery packs to the 20kWh 300V units?
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All we know is Lightning has posted a picture of a CCS station in use.
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I still wonder how Lightning plans to fit another 10 KWh of battery into that chassis?
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I still wonder how Lightning plans to fit another 10 KWh of battery into that chassis?
We'll see RSN, when they upgrade The New Guy's bike, won't we??
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I still wonder how Lightning plans to fit another 10 KWh of battery into that chassis?
We'll see RSN, when they upgrade The New Guy's bike, won't we??
I hope you won't mind if I don't hold my breath until that happens. ::)