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Title: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: _troy_ on April 13, 2021, 03:25:18 AM
Good morning,
where can i buy an aftermarket charger (off board) that is the best in terms of power / weight to connect to my fxs to recharge it?
I would need a plug and play charger, which can therefore be purchased ready to use (I'm not very practical in manuallity)
thank you very much
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: NEW2elec on April 13, 2021, 04:29:00 AM
The safest surest bet is to contact your Zero dealer for a Delta Q charger.  About $600 US and just plug and charge at about 1kw.
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: Langelot on April 13, 2021, 02:33:46 PM
I've bought an Otten charger for my FXS 2020, it costs 860 euros. Very useful, and charges at 3.3kW my bike from 0 to 100% in 1h45m.
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: _troy_ on April 13, 2021, 02:41:42 PM
I've bought an Otten charger for my FXS 2020, it costs 860 euros. Very useful, and charges at 3.3kW my bike from 0 to 100% in 1h45m.

perfect! just what interests me.
Where did you buy it?
did you have to make any changes after buying it?
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: Langelot on April 14, 2021, 05:53:28 PM
I've bought it at  https://www.otten.de/e-mobilitaet/elektromobilitaet.html
Just send them an e-mail.
No change to make after buying it, just plug and play :)
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: Langelot on April 14, 2021, 05:56:40 PM
You can have more details here :
https://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=8087.0

I've just bought the simple charger (I have not changed it) and when you want to charge, you plug it at the anderson plug. Very easy and no problem.
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: DerKrawallkeks on April 14, 2021, 06:14:34 PM
I've got the 3.3kW charger as well (two of them). I contacted Otten but I got a very unfriendly and unprofessional response.
I would recommend buying them at evcomponents/evassemble in china. They're about 480$ there, very good price, but shipping took a long time.

I am using a simple ESP32 to tell the charger what to do. If you want details, the code or anything, just tell me.

Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: _troy_ on April 14, 2021, 06:49:44 PM
thanks everyone for helping me!

I tried to send an email to Otten.

DerKrawallkeks can you tell me which charger model to buy (maybe with the correct URL) so I'm not wrong?

Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: DerKrawallkeks on April 14, 2021, 10:46:59 PM
https://www.evcomponents.com/elcon-tc-hk-j-3300w-charger.html

This one. I emailed them just to make sure.
Then you don't have to select anything, just tell them you have a Zero. They sell two versions: automatic, that just charges your Zero, and CAN controlled, where you can set the current yourself, in case you don't want full power:)
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: _troy_ on April 15, 2021, 02:41:19 AM
I tried to send an email because I don't know what type of battery, Number Of batteries In Series, Nominal Voltage of each battery, ect..

if they don't answer me, can I ask you how to fill out the form to buy the charger?
Sorry for my incompetence..
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: Langelot on April 15, 2021, 04:22:55 PM
Here is the photo of the Otten charger (Otten sent me this photo because I wanted to be sure it was the right plugs).
Just say them it is for an FXS :)
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: _troy_ on April 16, 2021, 08:03:57 PM
Does anyone know the following information?

batteries system are LiFePo4, Lithium ion or lead acid batteries?
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For LiFePO4 or Lithium,
1)How many cells in series of your batteris sytem?
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2)Capacity of cell.
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3)If possible, let us know the brand of cell and model.
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4)if any special requirement.
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For lead acid batteirs:
1)What  type are they: AGM FLOODED GEL?
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2)How many cells in series of your batteries system?
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3)What's the norminal voltage of each cell
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4)Capacity of cell(each cell of model)?
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5)If possible, let us know the brand of cell and model
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Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: Shadow on April 19, 2021, 05:18:01 PM
Does anyone know the following information?
...

Some of that information has to be inferred or an "educated guess". See also Elcon TC HK-H 1800W Charger (on Zero Motorcycles 2013+) (https://www.electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=8298.0) thread where the information you're asking about is shown for a ZF13.0 pack from a 2016 DSR, also with text describing how I got to find those values.

There was some other joke reply I just deleted now;  All are welcome to say what they think but if you have nothing nice to say and no time to go over the forum to find helpful advice...  :-X
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: DerKrawallkeks on April 19, 2021, 07:05:24 PM
1) 28S
2) about 30Ah, but 2 in parallel gives 60Ah
3) Farasis

If you buy a TCCharger, most sellers will know all they need to know when you just tell them it's a Zero.
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: MVetter on April 20, 2021, 12:27:01 AM
1) 28S
2) about 30Ah, but 2 in parallel gives 60Ah
3) Farasis

If you buy a TCCharger, most sellers will know all they need to know when you just tell them it's a Zero.

*28.5Ah
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: Allen_C on April 20, 2021, 07:06:25 AM
1) 28S
2) about 30Ah, but 2 in parallel gives 60Ah
3) Farasis

If you buy a TCCharger, most sellers will know all they need to know when you just tell them it's a Zero.

*28.5Ah

Are these numbers for the 3.6kw FXS and the 7.2kw battery is 57ah capacity?
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: MVetter on April 20, 2021, 07:36:45 AM

Are these numbers for the 3.6kw FXS and the 7.2kw battery is 57ah capacity?

Correct, meaning the current 14.4 monolith is 114Ah.
Title: Re: Charger offboard for fxs 2021
Post by: Allen_C on April 21, 2021, 12:00:36 AM

Are these numbers for the 3.6kw FXS and the 7.2kw battery is 57ah capacity?

Correct, meaning the current 14.4 monolith is 114Ah.

Great! Thanks