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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: wainair on February 06, 2013, 10:53:16 PM
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Now that the 13's are making it into the hands of lucky owners I was wondering if anyone has had the chance to play with the new App? I was looking for it in itunes app store but I couldn't find it. It sounds like a really amazing feature of the new bikes! I was amazed with the onstar app for my Volt. It lets you start the car, lock or unlock the doors, beep the horn, check the charge level or start the car charging if it is plugged in and gives you mileage and odometer histories. But one of the things I thought it could use was a basic tuning feature exactly like what Zero has done with the S and DS this year.
So anyone out there had a chance to play with the app yet? I'd love to hear about it or maybe get a link to get the app! ;)
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It's not available on the Google Play marketplace yet. At least on the Android side it is possible to sideload arbitrary applications, where Apple and Google both take some time (typ. couple of days) for a review process on application submission.
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I'll keep looking every couple days. It's no big rush as I don't have a bike yet but I'd still like to check it out and hear form those have been playing with it. Until I can get my hands on the bike I need something to play with! :)
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It would be neat if it had a simulation mode.. bike running around a course, street or dirt .. get to see the different parameters playing out. Speed up time or watch in real time. Same for charging. Watch the battery voltage, current.
I dunno. I'd like to see it : )
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Now that the 13's are making it into the hands of lucky owners I was wondering if anyone has had the chance to play with the new App? I was looking for it in itunes app store but I couldn't find it. It sounds like a really amazing feature of the new bikes! I was amazed with the onstar app for my Volt. It lets you start the car, lock or unlock the doors, beep the horn, check the charge level or start the car charging if it is plugged in and gives you mileage and odometer histories. But one of the things I thought it could use was a basic tuning feature exactly like what Zero has done with the S and DS this year.
So anyone out there had a chance to play with the app yet? I'd love to hear about it or maybe get a link to get the app! ;)
I got a new 2013DS last weekend, and just heard that the app should be available in 1-2weeks. Putting final touches on it apparently. I imagine it will be similar to GreenCharge in many ways. I'll update this thread after I get a chance with it!
EastSider
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Thanks EastSider!
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Apple Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/zero-motorcycles/id596423381?ls=1&mt=8 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/zero-motorcycles/id596423381?ls=1&mt=8)
Android Store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ZeroMotorcycles (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ZeroMotorcycles)
User Guide: www.zeromotorcycles.com/app/help/ios/ (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/app/help/ios/)
BAM!
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Nice! emotofreak, hope you don't mind I edited your post to make the links clickable.
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Got it, but will have to enjoy demo mode for now...
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Thanks for the links emotofreak! I'm in demo mode too pretending I've got a
2013 now!! LOL
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I'm wondering if the 2013's come factory standard with a 12v accessory outlet now? I would think that it would be there to run the smartphone / tablet etc.
Picking up my 2013 FX Friday. Two days to go - Wahoo!!!
Oops, my '12 DS looks kind of sad sitting in my desert garage, snif, snif :-( After all those good rides it gave me only to be pushed aside for a younger, prettier, more exciting and able, replacement.
Trikester
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I like the app, it is really neat! The one feature that I think is really cool is the news feed. What a great way for Zero to communicate with it's riders! You could get all sorts of notifications from Zero on that! I like how you can change the drive settings. Even the ability to limit the top speed. I know personally that after I got familiar with my bikes I could more or less know how fast I was going it top gear by the sound of the bike. With an electric that is probably not possible so that feature might be able to stop me from getting a nasty speeding ticket!
Good Work Zero! ;D
That would be good Trikester, a usb port up by the handle bars!
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One thing I think would be very cool would be to have it simulate a route. Pull terrain, speed limit data from google maps. Have a riding aggression switch. Simulate power, speed, energy draw, range. Visualize the route on Google Street View, have an animation speed slider.
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I won't be able to go to the internet when I'm out with the bike because I don't plan on subscribing to a cell phone network. I have another cell phone (not a smart one) that I use for calls. I'll buy a cheaper outdated device to permanently mount as an instrument panel on the FX so someone can't just pop it off and walk away with it. Of course when I'm in range of a WiFi I could access the internet. Most places I will be, that will not be the case. :(
Trikester
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I'm wondering if the 2013's come factory standard with a 12v accessory outlet now? I would think that it would be there to run the smartphone / tablet etc.
Picking up my 2013 FX Friday. Two days to go - Wahoo!!!
Oops, my '12 DS looks kind of sad sitting in my desert garage, snif, snif :-( After all those good rides it gave me only to be pushed aside for a younger, prettier, more exciting and able, replacement.
Trikester
Trikester,
You dog. You did not even trade her in on a new model; you just pushed her aside. That most certainly would not work on my wife :)
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Trikester,
You dog. You did not even trade her in on a new model; you just pushed her aside. That most certainly would not work on my wife
At least she can't hire a lawyer ;)
Trikester
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Works great on my old iphone3. - demo mode that is for now. TunIng of eco mode only?
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eco mode is also the customizable profile. You can't adjust the sport profile.
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When I pick up my FX on Friday I'll ask Harlan if he can show me how the system works.
Trikester
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One feature you'd miss out on if you don't have a data plan is that they will be able to pull the maintenance logs from your bike for "roadside assistance" if you should ever have a problem away from home...
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Wow, the (android) app seems very powerful and full of features. Of course I only fiddled around in demo mode and without a bike.
The disappointment is of course that the design is not suited for the android but clearly iOs (iPhone). Referring to things like the bottom tab menu, the lack of actionbar on top but most importantly, the lack of a proper back stack. Hitting the android back-button will not take you back one level or to previous tab, it will close the app. Hopefully now that the app is released they will dig in to some android design documents and update it properly.
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One feature you'd miss out on if you don't have a data plan is that they will be able to pull the maintenance logs from your bike for "roadside assistance" if you should ever have a problem away from home...
pull the log when u r on a WIFI network - at the cafe - while charging :-)
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One feature you'd miss out on if you don't have a data plan is that they will be able to pull the maintenance logs from your bike for "roadside assistance" if you should ever have a problem away from home...
pull the log when u r on a WIFI network - at the cafe - while charging :-)
I'm referring to breaking down at the side of the road, with no WiFi cafe to keep you company while the factory figures out how to get you back to civilization... ;)
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I'm referring to breaking down at the side of the road, with no WiFi cafe to keep you company while the factory figures out how to get you back to civilization... ;)
Many places I ride don't have a cell signal available so I'd still be in the same situation, unless I had service through a sat phone (big bucks). I've attached a photo of such a place. I'm on one of my home-built gas trikes in the Maze District of Canyonlands N.P..
I like the idea of a cafe, a burger or taco, and a nice cold craft ale. I'll plan on only breaking down near one. ;)
Trikester
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One feature you'd miss out on if you don't have a data plan is that they will be able to pull the maintenance logs from your bike for "roadside assistance" if you should ever have a problem away from home...
pull the log when u r on a WIFI network - at the cafe - while charging :-)
I'm referring to breaking down at the side of the road, with no WiFi cafe to keep you company while the factory figures out how to get you back to civilization... ;)
so what app pulls the log of ur brammo :) ? certainly - many places we can now go with the new found range that have neither wifi nor cell. would say though that the bikes are now all more reliable and if u manage ur range :) no worries mate (as we say down under)
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so what app pulls the log of ur brammo :) ? certainly - many places we can now go with the new found range that have neither wifi nor cell. would say though that the bikes are now all more reliable and if u manage ur range :) no worries mate (as we say down under)
The Empulse doesn't have cell phone integration, but I could remove the seat, pull the drive with the logs, hook it to my cell phone using a USB host adapter, and mail them manually... ;)
I'm just pointing out that it is a built-in 1-click feature of the Zero app that you'd miss out on without a data plan. A better question would be what data might they be able to find in the logs that would be of any help if you are broken down on the side of the road and I have no idea what that would be - it's just the scenario that the Zero rep presented to me when he described the feature so I'm guessing they do have a use case in mind.
My Acura has had the ability to email logs through my cell phone for 6 years now. Unfortunately, their integration requires a form of Bluetooth protocol (DUN protocol perhaps?) that none of my phones have ever supported ("We are sorry, but your Bluetooth connection does not support Acura Mumble Data Thingy") so I've never been able to get that "data connect" feature set up. :( I'm guessing that Zero in 2013 has thought this through better than Acura did back in 2007...
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I wish on my older models to have had the send log feature. I never broke down completely. It was always a motor growl, or half empty battery performance decrease. For all this "continuos improvement scenarios" the ability to send logs is great. As the Zeros are less mechanical and more electronic the feature is useful and in fact most logical. Brammo more like an ICE bike would need additional sensors to pick up data from gearbox etc. lots of parts.
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When I picked up my FX yesterday, Harlan demonstrated using his smart phone (iPod I think) for setting parameters and reading out data from the bike.
I will get an iPod to mount on the bike, but not subscribe to cell service as I mentioned before. I don't want another monthly bill!!! >:(
Trikester
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When I picked up my FX yesterday, Harlan demonstrated using his smart phone (iPod I think) for setting parameters and reading out data from the bike.
I will get an iPod to mount on the bike, but not subscribe to cell service as I mentioned before. I don't want another monthly bill!!! >:(
Trikester
Probably "iPod Touch" then. Not really a smart phone, but smart device, as it cannot connect calls. A feature you won't need as you don't want another monthly bill anyways. =)
Keep in mind you will need a wifi-connection to download (and update) the zero-app every now and then. This can be done with any wifi.
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Thanks for the info. I'll look into the iPod touch. I didn't know about it, I thought they were all phones. The iPad mini is way to big to be on the bike so that's why I knew that I would have to go the phone route but not use it as a phone. I would expect the "Touch" to be less expensive than the phone version.
Hopefully, the iPod Touch has a compatible Blue Tooth function.
Yes, I will use the WiFi capability of the device.
Trikester
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I would expect the "Touch" to be less expensive than the phone version.
I would too, I don't know much about them apple-products though.. Just remember everything with the i-prefix comes with a premium price tag. Unless apple is your chosen path, consider (at least compare with) less expensive android devices. There are some rugged editions that can handle occasional downpour and some beating.
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I can confirm app won't work on my Ainol Fire 7" (looks like nexus 7) running android 4.22, but works ok on my HP Touchpad 10" running android 4.12, my Fire has better specs than the Touchpad.
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What is the maximum battery state of charge that you have seen on the app (for your bike)? I do not think I have seen over 88% even though the dash's charge light is not blinking after being plugged in over night.
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They used to say if you want your L-ion batteries to last you shouldn't charge them above 80% or let go below 20% SOC. Could it be that they have found closer to 90% is just as safe and you are seeing the true SOC of the battery rather than a "full" charge indication?