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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: rayivers on June 26, 2016, 01:28:43 AM
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After going with taller bars / rearset risers / Zero MX seat on my '14 'MX', I was happy with the position of everything but my legs. My feet seemed too far forward with excessive knee angle, and going from sitting to standing required pulling back slightly on the bars, which none of my other bikes needed (and I hated).
These adaptors move the OEM footpeg mounts 23mm down & back, and 16mm farther apart. In addition to mounting-bolt holes they have protruding pegs to engage the frame's footpeg-boss locating holes, and blind holes to accept the OEM footpeg mounts' pegs. The lower front corners of the adaptors extend 10mm below the skid plate, but the adaptor steel (316 stainless) surrounds & protects the mounts from wide/flat impacts. Mounting bolts required are M10 x 35 x 1.5 (frame) and M10 x 22 x 1.5 low socket-head (footpeg mount) - all were torqued to 35 ft/lbs using blue Loc-Tite. These adaptors will fit the '14 FX and possibly the '15-'16 FX and FXS too, but the DS / S / SR have different brake-pedal and kickstand clearance situations so I have no idea if they'll fit those bikes correctly or not. All the '14-'16 Zeros use the same 20-02723 (LH) and 20-02724 (RH) footpeg mounts.
Left to right - LH out side / in side, RH in side / out side:
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp74/rayivers/Footpeg%20Adaptors%20small.jpg)
... and here's the RH one on the bike (far left is aluminum CNC test blank, adaptor w/mount only, and complete peg/mount/adaptor setup):
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp74/rayivers/RH%20Footpeg%20Adaptor%20on%20bike.jpg)
Here are the diagrams - I added a .125" top step for added brake-pedal clearance to both (in case CNC mirror-imaging is used).
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp74/rayivers/LH%20Footpeg%20Adaptor%20Diagram%20revised.png)
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp74/rayivers/RH%20Footpeg%20Adaptor%20Diagram%20revised.png)
After 5 rides, some observations:
1) They make a lot of small things easier: sitting/standing transitions, moving feet down to (and up from) the ground quickly, braking (which feels more like a straight push down now, rather than a curved one down & back), power sliding, lifting front end over obstacles (especially while standing), etc. The total effect is one of feeling more comfortable and in-control on the bike.
2) Rear traction seems improved slightly, possibly at the expense of front grip.
3) Brake pedal is now offset inward slightly like my ICE bikes, so it's easier to avoid riding the brake.
Ray
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Nice work and that's good to know that the results are more "dual sport" oriented! My DS/DSR feel just slightly awkward with the footpeg position because it's the same geometry as for the S/SR.
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Thanks! I'm real happy with how they came out, they fit the frame & mount holes well and don't flex at all.
I was just looking at pics of the '13 DS / '16 DSR, it seems like the OEM footpeg locations are pretty much directly under the swingarm pivot. Perhaps it might be better to go straight down with those pegs, rather than any further back?
Ray
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I'd rather not reduce clearance to ground. Maybe creatively tilt them a little forward? I'm not terribly motivated to investigate this, though, especially now that the Corbin saddle lets me rest from further back by about this amount.
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Diagrams added to initial post.
Ray
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lol whats this inches stuff? Can your software also output metric?
Metric please.
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Amazing work Ray! Thanks.
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My need is a setup to allow the use of the "Aggressive" foot pegs sold by ZERO as "made for the FX/FXS. The truth is if you purchase them then you will find three things.
When the foot pegs are folded up;
1. The right side cleat will contact the brake pivot bolt before it contacts the fold point contact.
2. The right side will also contact the rear brake shield before it contacts the fold point contact.
3. The left side will contact the frame before it contacts the fold point contact.
In short, the set I received from ZERO was just a stock part number, not specific to the FX series and sure to damage what ever it hits first as it folds up.
Come on ZERO, try these parts on before you claim they will fit and function correctly. After all you have assigned them a ZERO part number.
I have contacted ZERO and my Dealer.
I will update this post with feed back from ZERO.
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My need is a setup to allow the use of the "Aggressive" foot pegs sold by ZERO as "made for the FX/FXS. The truth is if you purchase them then you will find three things.
When the foot pegs are folded up;
1. The right side cleat will contact the brake pivot bolt before it contacts the fold point contact.
2. The right side will also contact the rear brake shield before it contacts the fold point contact.
3. The left side will contact the frame before it contacts the fold point contact.
In short, the set I received from ZERO was just a stock part number, not specific to the FX series and sure to damage what ever it hits first as it folds up.
Come on ZERO, try these parts on before you claim they will fit and function correctly. After all you have assigned them a ZERO part number.
I have contacted ZERO and my Dealer.
I will update this post with feed back from ZERO.
Do you have any pictures of them?
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You can find the picture on the ZERO Accessories on the FXS Section.
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My need is a setup to allow the use of the "Aggressive" foot pegs sold by ZERO as "made for the FX/FXS. The truth is if you purchase them then you will find three things.
When the foot pegs are folded up;
1. The right side cleat will contact the brake pivot bolt before it contacts the fold point contact.
2. The right side will also contact the rear brake shield before it contacts the fold point contact.
3. The left side will contact the frame before it contacts the fold point contact.
In short, the set I received from ZERO was just a stock part number, not specific to the FX series and sure to damage what ever it hits first as it folds up.
I noticed the same clearance issue on my FX. The right side doesn't concern me because it only contacts the bolt. The left side did bother me, didn't want the peg to gouge the frame in the event of a tip over. My solution was to Dremel off the interfering cleats. Here's a picture!
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Finished installing a pair of Ray's footpegs adaptors.
Seems like an excellent design. Had them CNC made.
Will off road test them this weekend.
If anyone need a pair, my machinist can easily make some (the programing took a lot of time).
Thanks Ray for the upgrade.
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Installation(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170704/899832e5bf0fa419d32a981ed59043be.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170704/acaa95ad3ec4ee728ac402243d987a7b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170704/ec185cc1bed5d708a0fe6e5d4bce35a5.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170704/04d0ad495e9ed4668f85ac2ea6e74537.jpg)
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You're welcome, Oded - and they came out great! The 'step' looks cool, mine don't have it (I added it later, after my brake pedal started hitting the adaptor). One weird problem I'm having is that I can't seem to get paint to stick to them all over, despite doing the same prep work I've done with other things on the bike - I'm starting to think it's a flex thing. My bar-riser adaptors are made from the exact same 316 stainless and painted with the same paint, they still look fine.
Ray
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I wash the part, lightly sand it, than use some primer paint, and than paint it black. So far, so good.
Here is a photo of it with the primer on.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170704/e25e2abea2d8232b05514c6c78352cb4.jpg)
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OK, thanks! I have some primer here from the same paint manufacturer (Dupli-Color), I'll try that.
Ray
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I might do the peg relocation myself someday. I don't really mind where they are, but the front wheel has always felt too heavy so getting the pegs back some would probably be better. I've also had some complaints about the aggressive pegs. The teeth have actually broken on the brake side from hitting the bolt (I fall down a lot!). And I hadn't noticed but yes the left side hits the frame, barely noticeable compared to my boot wear that took off the anodize long ago. The big thing is how much they hurt if they hit your shin bone! A LOT doesn't even come close. I always ride with knee guards now because I have scars to remind me, and my next pair of boots will be taller. On the plus side I have never had a boot slip off, they do work.
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Hello,
I recently bought a Zero FX and am 193 cm tall. Also looking for a higher seat and lowering my pegs.
Can somebody maybe provide me with the digital technical drawings of these very nice looking adaptors?
Cheers from the Netherlands,
Geert