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Makes And Models => Zero Motorcycles Forum | 2013+ => Topic started by: JustinZeroMoto on December 13, 2016, 10:16:07 AM
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Does anyone have a "wish list" of sorts for OEM/AFTERMARKET parts and accessories? LET ME MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE!
TELL ME WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT!!!!
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Just one comes to mind since seeing '17 models: Simple lockable tank storage for '16 and under that doesn't cost $300 :)
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A quickcharger.
I've already got the biker camera.
More LED strip lights for extra turn signals. I have 14 feet of them, just need to solder wire.
A way to turn my spare givi case into a mobile boom box powered by the zero battery.
Belt tension checker.
OEM log parser.
A tool to modify settings (spool size/tire size).
An S to SR conversion kit.
Dual front disc brake upgrade kit.
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Umm...a fairing
Or just a "tank" that doesn't have the bat wings so that after market fairings can be mounted.
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I bought one of these to catch spray and mount the plates after eliminating the rear fender...it doesn't fit stock but I think I will get it to work by having the part that slides into the swingarm milled.
So...how bought a rear hugger/license plate mount made for the Zero?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01LLJXRXK/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1481605263&sr=8-15-spons&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=rear+hugger+fz-09&psc=1
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More comfortable foot pegs... something with some rubber on it.
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- Faring kit
- Variable regen lever where the clutch lever goes.
- Reverse button
- turn indicators built into the mirrors (reduces drag)
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A more comfortable seat. ;)
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One of those Zero easy up tents so I can properly represent at the races! Also love that huge FXS poster on the wall at the factory!
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CHAdeMO. Will take the original since the systems it worked well with are found on the east coast where I live.
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For dual-sport riding that includes some off-road use...
- Less noisy chain/sprockets
- Foldable mirrors
- On/off switch for lights (or an in-dash setting similar to ABS)
- Shorter front brake lever
- More rigid rear fender for FX, to better support aftermarket tail lights
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-real fast charging options (> 10 kW), dc or ac
-full led lighting (turn signals as well as headlight)
-bidirectional use options for the battery (i.e. for a boom box or for your house)
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- Faring kit
- Variable regen lever where the clutch lever goes.
- Reverse button
- turn indicators built into the mirrors (reduces drag)
+1, especially Regen and reverse.
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Possible upgrade kit to add the power tank to the 2013 bikes (with the 2016 battery upgrade)
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Great stuff! I need to put together a survey monkey or something similar so I can get this on a spreadsheet!
REVERSE?
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Reverse! Yes of course
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Great stuff! I need to put together a survey monkey or something similar so I can get this on a spreadsheet!
REVERSE?
Harlan knows how to provide a reverse gear. ;) It's really really cool.
Here's a modest set of requests:
- Update the store with the smaller items that have been created recently, like the parking brake and the TechSpec tank grip pads.
- For the front brake lever, ASV's unbreakable levers (http://asvinventions.com/Unbreakable-Levers) are amazing and seems like a good third-party support vendor. They're in SoCal, not far.
- A small group of ABS molded plastic accessories for bike protection would be nice: lower belt guard, rear tire hugger, and a DS/DSR/FX option for a tire-conforming front fender.
- Rubber pads for the DS/DSR/FX footrests would be hopefully a cheap way to reduce wear on commuter riding boots when not offroad.
- More options for securely lifting the bike - a way to mount spools to the rear swingarm, say.
- Oh, a centerstand.
- Here's the crazy adventure-specific request: ask your Seattle dealer to lend a DSR to AltRider (http://www.altrider.com) or Touratech (https://touratech-usa.com/)'s offices for a bunch of fitments. AltRider is might be easier/cheaper to market?
Of course, you can read http://www.zeromanual.com (http://www.zeromanual.com) and see that some fitments are established or actively scavenged and others are missing; if there's a way for Zero to help us out with this without crossing the line on official endorsements, it would be welcome.
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Some say reverse is not needed, but it's an electric bike so reverse is so easy to do and it gives a bit of a 'cool' factor. Most ICE bikes will never have it.
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Some say reverse is not needed, but it's an electric bike so reverse is so easy to do and it gives a bit of a 'cool' factor. Most ICE bikes will never have it.
I can't get enough traction with my feet to back up while astride, too short.
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+1 to the belt guard. Probably easiest to do too.
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Just one comes to mind since seeing '17 models: Simple lockable tank storage for '16 and under that doesn't cost $300 :)
If you have any damage that is covered under warranty, Zero may upgrade your tank to a locking tank. I was talking to the nice people at Zero customer service and I showed them spots on my 'tank' plastics. Customer service looked at my '15 SR and told me that was due to the brake fluid reservoir being overfilled at the factory, so leaking was common. They offered me new plastics, with the new premium paint in any color I wanted. I offered to do the install, so that may have helped me out. The only catch is that I will have a extra set of keys since the keys will not match my ignition unless I drill that out.
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-Additional driving lights
-Brake light kit for Givi top case
-Heated grips or gloves
-Semi-aero front and rear fairing
-CHAdeMO DC fast charging
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-1 Hour fast charger integrated into the tank for $2000 or less.
-Adapter charging plugs that are <$100 a piece
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Does anyone have a "wish list" of sorts for OEM/AFTERMARKET parts and accessories? LET ME MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE!
I was reminded today by SF Moto's Zero parts specialist that CRG (http://constructorsrg.com/levers/index.html) makes brake levers that should be easy to customize and are within 20 miles of Zero's headquarters. Get a Zero over to them and I'm sure they'd be fine setting up a fitting.
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Traction control. I know that it would not be difficult to implement, and really it just seems lazy at this point to exclude it.
I recently bought but have not received LED lights for the bike. Headlight, running light, license plate light, and turn signals all for less than $40. It would have been nice if it came that way.
A USB charger would be another nice addition, especially considering Zero already supplies a hidden SAE connector less than 12" away from the spot on the handlebars.
Lastly, plastics that have UV protection. I took off my tank yesterday and you wouldn't believe how much my bike has faded in less than 2 years. Also the kill switch is pink. The bike is garage kept BTW.
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I know that it would not be difficult to implement, and really it just seems lazy at this point to exclude it.
Seriously? How did you arrive at that conclusion?
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I know that it would not be difficult to implement, and really it just seems lazy at this point to exclude it.
First: this is off-topic since it is not a part or accessory - Justin isn't asking for systems improvements and likely has no way to really help that effort.
Second: it's not easy (it'd not be like ABS, requires more engineering and testing, wouldn't share any Bosch systems with other OEMs), and this has been discussed before.
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First off, thanks much for asking!
1) Service manuals: Since Zero issues illustrated dealer service bulletins regularly, it seems there's enough digital infrastructure already in place to make this happen immediately for a few models/years at least (gotta start somewhere!) - and regarding new bikes, almost any Zero employee with an outline of the preliminary manual text and a pair of Pivothead video glasses (http://www.pivothead.com/smart/) could gather plenty of on-point raw images on the assembly line very quickly; after that it would be a matter of editing, distribution, etc. When the Big Four get involved in EV MC's - as they surely will - Zero's lack of any kind of service manual could be a real 'tipping factor' deal-breaker, as it would've been for me had I had a viable alternative to Zero; might as well get ahead of it now, or at least start on it. Obviously no NDA-related stuff, but there's no shortage of other things that may need servicing, distant dealers, and hands-on owners to make this a very popular item, possibly an overnight best-seller.
2) Fairing / storage frame-mounting areas: these could just be extra-thick frame sections at key points on the bike (surely someone like Craig Vetter might be happy to provide an excellent list of potential locations) that would leave a clean look for those who didn't need them, while providing almost unlimited sturdy mounting options for those who do. IMO this would be well worth the extra aluminum, especially as a selling point (try adding this option later on :D ).
3) Optional lowering swingarm: having seen much mention here of both seat height and suspension performance, this seems like the ideal way to reduce the one without affecting the other. Having completed work on this last week on my '14 FX dirt bike (details to follow after testing, as usual), I realized the swingarm could be easily modified for 30-40mm rear lowering during fabrication w/no dimensional changes; just rotate the crosstube 180° around the motorcycle centerline (bulge down) & weld as before, then weld the shock ears on the straight tube top in the original locations (w/no diagrams really needed, perhaps the fabricators might easily provide Zero a test sample?). NOTE: this is NOT a bolt-on option for the '14 FX as the swingarm only moves upward a limited amount from level before frame contact (160mm / 6.3") and requires relieving the front of the swingarm a little, but should work fine as-is on the shorter-travel bikes & possibly the post-'14 FX too, I don't know.
4) Online parts fiche: I saw another poster mention this, can't believe I forgot to. Maybe Zero owners could be E-mailed passwords to the existing parts database, giving access via a view-only portal? If feasible, this could get things going quickly with minimal expense. I seriously doubt they'll be any kind of prolonged parts-lookup stampede; interest will likely be high initially, then settle down to maybe the level of having added 5-10 busy dealers. At the very least, having correct part numbers in hand makes dealer ordering easier and far more likely to result in correct/complete orders, especially if the dealer's new with Zero. I don't know if they still do it, but in the recent past Zero drop-shipped a number of parts orders direct to my home: perhaps if confronted with many $K of online sales, they might reinstitute this practice, which made things so much more convenient when my nearest dealer was several hours away.
Ray
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For the FX(S), how about a tank bag that attaches to snaps or studs on the faux tank? Wouldn't be very difficult. Also perhaps underseat storage. I've thought about creating a tray to hold documents or a very small toolkit, maybe in the void above the shock.
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Windscreen for the fx, that is easy to put on and takeoff when needed.
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Comfortable seat, round headlamp, bigger fairing, cruise control
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I know that it would not be difficult to implement, and really it just seems lazy at this point to exclude it.
Seriously? How did you arrive at that conclusion?
I heard a discussion with an Alta motors employee and they said it wasn't a big deal. I'm not an electrical engineer so whatever.
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Helmet lock, or at least a small metal loop where I can supply my own small lock.
Heated grips. Information and options for this major feature are sorely lacking.
Alternate brake lever(s), especially shorter or more standard.
Retractable overhead charging cable system.
Better rain protection on the FX; bottom of my pant legs get soaked really quick; stream of water drops kicks up over front fender.
Service manual(!)
Microfiche parts ordering (at minimum as a dealer site add-on).
Higher FX seat; bike quite a bit too short for tall person (me).
Brake squeal fix.
All LED lighting. Got a LED headlight (kind with fan) on my 500EXC, and it is unbelievable!
Integrated V/A/W charging display (same info Kill-a-watt gives).
Belt guard, right where rocks would get sucked in and snap belt.
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Suggestions:
Many OEM Zero Motorcycle accessories have now better options from 3rd party USA manufacturers. This is a good thing I think and should be encouraged as @BrianTRice says.
1. Chapman Mfg makes a mini ratcheting tool I've reviewed previously (http://electricmotorcycleforum.com/boards/index.php?topic=6346.0). It includes most but not all bits useful for working on Zero Motorcycles vehicles. If a fastener up to 200lb-in torque specification doesn't have a Chapman Mfg bit available then it doesn't belong on a bike, or alternatively you should get right on that and tell Chapman Mfg to make those bits!
2. Official technical guidelines for 3rd-party charging equipment manufacturers (namely Diginow and their Supercharger V2). Doing all of the certification to get the ChargeTank compliant with a worldwide market is fine, but why not off-load this huge time-and-resource sink in the future to someone else? Publish the guidelines for a 3rd party to make charge equipment that is complaint and so Zero Motorcycles can focus on the good stuff like a battery and firmware that can safely charge at 1C rate and greater.
3. Happy Trails makes a SU-series side rack for Zero Motorcycles bikes that is better built and less expensive than the OEM rack, plus it is made in USA. I guess you have to offer that OEM one to make bikes that are police fleet ready but... all it takes is lending a bike to some manufacturers and we riders get better options. The Zero OEM top rack is useful for a small to medium top case but not very sturdy to do things like carry a mountain bicycle on the back.
4. Keyless ignition kit. Possibly this is for future models. Security focused so you can access the bike with a key or even powered on but it won't go anywhere until authorized. Might not actually have to develop this module just publish the specification.
5. Reverse "gear" or even just a mode where you can keep the bike powered on but the controller is not energizing the motor; that small difference between the bike being off and the bike being on but kill switch engaged is enough to give a difficult time backing up with leg power over curbs and drainage ditches or back up the hill.
6. Easy options for crash protection; more 3rd party options for brake levers, slider spools, crash bars, hand guards
7. Service Manuals? What about for out-of-warranty bikes at the least, can start with that.
Kudos on re-routing the (turn-signal obscuring) brake lines for 2017+ bikes. Can we get advise how to correctly fix this for 2016 bikes?
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Does anyone have a "wish list" of sorts for OEM/AFTERMARKET parts and accessories? LET ME MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE!
Great stuff! I need to put together a survey monkey or something similar so I can get this on a spreadsheet!
Here's a modest set of requests:
- Update the store with the smaller items that have been created recently, like the parking brake and the TechSpec tank grip pads.
Zero finally published their TechSpec tank grip options!
S/SR: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=240&zenid=i1nsi3edu8bl9fpqntb7351ui2 (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=240&zenid=i1nsi3edu8bl9fpqntb7351ui2)
DS/DSR: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=241&zenid=i1nsi3edu8bl9fpqntb7351ui2 (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=241&zenid=i1nsi3edu8bl9fpqntb7351ui2)
Indexed on the wiki: http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#Tank_Grips (http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#Tank_Grips)
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Great stuff! I need to put together a survey monkey or something similar so I can get this on a spreadsheet!
REVERSE?
Harlan knows how to provide a reverse gear. ;) It's really really cool.
Here's a modest set of requests:
- Update the store with the smaller items that have been created recently, like the parking brake and the TechSpec tank grip pads.
- For the front brake lever, ASV's unbreakable levers (http://asvinventions.com/Unbreakable-Levers) are amazing and seems like a good third-party support vendor. They're in SoCal, not far.
- A small group of ABS molded plastic accessories for bike protection would be nice: lower belt guard, rear tire hugger, and a DS/DSR/FX option for a tire-conforming front fender.
- Rubber pads for the DS/DSR/FX footrests would be hopefully a cheap way to reduce wear on commuter riding boots when not offroad.
- More options for securely lifting the bike - a way to mount spools to the rear swingarm, say.
- Oh, a centerstand.
- Here's the crazy adventure-specific request: ask your Seattle dealer to lend a DSR to AltRider (http://www.altrider.com) or Touratech (https://touratech-usa.com/)'s offices for a bunch of fitments. AltRider is might be easier/cheaper to market?
Of course, you can read http://www.zeromanual.com (http://www.zeromanual.com) and see that some fitments are established or actively scavenged and others are missing; if there's a way for Zero to help us out with this without crossing the line on official endorsements, it would be welcome.
Right up my alley, a centerstand would be really nice.
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Does anyone have a "wish list" of sorts for OEM/AFTERMARKET parts and accessories? LET ME MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE!
Great stuff! I need to put together a survey monkey or something similar so I can get this on a spreadsheet!
Here's a modest set of requests:
- Update the store with the smaller items that have been created recently, like the parking brake and the TechSpec tank grip pads.
Zero finally published their TechSpec tank grip options!
S/SR: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=240&zenid=i1nsi3edu8bl9fpqntb7351ui2 (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=240&zenid=i1nsi3edu8bl9fpqntb7351ui2)
DS/DSR: http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=241&zenid=i1nsi3edu8bl9fpqntb7351ui2 (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_2&products_id=241&zenid=i1nsi3edu8bl9fpqntb7351ui2)
Indexed on the wiki: http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#Tank_Grips (http://zeromanual.com/index.php/Zero_Aftermarket#Tank_Grips)
They are charging a whopping 77€ ($86) for that...
It's as insane as their sticker that you can order with the lower fairings. 25€ ($28) for a sticker that is smaller than one of my fingers that says 'crafted in California'...
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They are charging a whopping 77€ ($86) for that...
It's as insane as their sticker that you can order with the lower fairings. 25€ ($28) for a sticker that is smaller than one of my fingers that says 'crafted in California'...
$100 for anything OEM seems pretty much the baseline, the business must go through dealerships and they take a cut. If you're a dealer then you might get a special price.
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The Zero tank pad prices match TechSpec prices. No one is bilking you.
http://techspec-usa.com/motorcycles/suzuki.html (http://techspec-usa.com/motorcycles/suzuki.html)
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I second the center stand!
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Left hand rear brake.
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The Zero tank pad prices match TechSpec prices. No one is bilking you.
http://techspec-usa.com/motorcycles/suzuki.html (http://techspec-usa.com/motorcycles/suzuki.html)
Thanks for the information! I totally wasn't aware of this (premium?) price.
Is that a common price level for tank grips? If you buy standard generic tank grips they are rarely priced above 30€ here in Germany.
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The Zero tank pad prices match TechSpec prices. No one is bilking you.
http://techspec-usa.com/motorcycles/suzuki.html (http://techspec-usa.com/motorcycles/suzuki.html)
Thanks for the information! I totally wasn't aware of this (premium?) price.
Is that a common price level for tank grips? If you buy standard generic tank grips they are rarely priced above 30€ here in Germany.
It looks to me that they are providing a set of at least 5 individual tank grip pads for those prices on the featured bikes. I bought a set of three pads from this company, two knee pads and one belly pad, for my BMW RS and I believe the price was closer to $50. Each pad set appears to be custom made for each model motorcycle, so that, plus low volume, likely keeps the price high. Perhaps they offer a set of generic pads that are less expensive. ???
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Yes, you can buy generic pads that are cheaper, but they're not that much cheaper. I had some cut up to fit my DSR for a while.
http://techspec-usa.com/motorcycles/general-sheets.html (http://techspec-usa.com/motorcycles/general-sheets.html)
The material doesn't appear inherently cheap to produce. You can always get a different material and cut it to size for less cost. The tradeoff with a tank grip pad is how well it works with your motorcycle gear (does it chafe your jeans or riding pants; is the grip usable) and how long does it last.
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Left hand rear brake.
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I'll second that, would be awesome.
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-Additional driving lights
-Brake light kit for Givi top case
-Heated grips or gloves
-Semi-aero front and rear fairing
-CHAdeMO DC fast charging
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-1 Hour fast charger integrated into the tank for $2000 or less.
-Adapter charging plugs that are <$100 a piece
I'll like the AUX charging port to be placed some where else, as its a pain in the butt to reach when you have sidecases mounted, and the fact that you have to sit down on your knees to see the darn thing, not to mention when your fingers are cold, its night and raining. GRRRR
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do you mean aesthetic aftermarket parts or both electronic and aesthetic?
I would like a fairing that is large like a cruiser but more focused on aero dynamics, replace the side panels that cover the side of the battery with panels that jut out and go over the riders legs, pretty much just aftermarket aesthetic parts that focus on lowering wind drag without looking like a weird bubble.
The biggest aftermarket mod that I want for my bike is the ability to put on extra battery packs, my dream when I first bought my zero was to buy 2 extra battery packs and mount them like side saddles to the bike and triple the range.
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Bolt on Rear Sets
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Sport-touring type FULL frame-mounted fairing and a lower belt guard.
That is all.
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Sport-touring type FULL frame-mounted fairing and a lower belt guard.
That is all.
Post a picture of a bike you like?
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do you mean aesthetic aftermarket parts or both electronic and aesthetic?
I would like a fairing that is large like a cruiser but more focused on aero dynamics, replace the side panels that cover the side of the battery with panels that jut out and go over the riders legs, pretty much just aftermarket aesthetic parts that focus on lowering wind drag without looking like a weird bubble.
The biggest aftermarket mod that I want for my bike is the ability to put on extra battery packs, my dream when I first bought my zero was to buy 2 extra battery packs and mount them like side saddles to the bike and triple the range.
Just a better placing of the aux port.
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Sport-touring type FULL frame-mounted fairing and a lower belt guard.
That is all.
Post a picture of a bike you like?
Google "R100RS"
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Sport-touring type FULL frame-mounted fairing and a lower belt guard.
That is all.
Post a picture of a bike you like?
Google "R100RS"
I've Got a R100RS. A heavy beast, but really good fairing.
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You think an R100RS is heavy? With a full tank of fuel that thing weighs about the same as the Zero SR. I know because I had an R100RT and that one was slightly heavier due to the larger fairing.
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You think an R100RS is heavy? With a full tank of fuel that thing weighs about the same as the Zero SR. I know because I had an R100RT and that one was slightly heavier due to the larger fairing.
The wet weight of an R100RS is 500lbs.
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/bmw/bmw_r100rs%2076.htm (http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/bmw/bmw_r100rs%2076.htm)
A Zero SR is 418lbs in 4-brick configuration, and 458lbs with a Power Tank:
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-s/specs.php?model=sr (http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-s/specs.php?model=sr)
The Zero is lighter. Even a sport touring fairing would not make it as heavy as the R100RS, and we're not even talking about cases yet.
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You think an R100RS is heavy? With a full tank of fuel that thing weighs about the same as the Zero SR. I know because I had an R100RT and that one was slightly heavier due to the larger fairing.
I own a BMW R100RS, and i'd rather Pick up my Zero tvang my BMW
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:D
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Sorry, got confused by too many facts and figures. Yes, my R100RT with bags and a full load of fuel was a tick over 500 lbs... BUT as a full-dress tourer it was probably the lightest bike in that category ever. The RS is lighter still and with all the weight down low both bikes were child's play to pick up when they fell over. A whole lot easier than my K1200LT (which I've had to pick up a couple of times).
I'm no Schwarzenegger... it's not about strength... it's all about technique. I knew a woman a third smaller than me who picked up her GL1500 GoldWing after she dropped it before any of the big strong men with us even had the time to dismount their bikes to give her a hand.
But getting back on topic... yes, a nice, full coverage fairing like the one on the R100RS is what I'd like to see on a Zero. I've seen some of those "Dustbin" fairing designs and they're just a lilttle to weird-looking for me, even if they are more aerodynamic.
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Aerodynamic fairing and screen that improves range at high speed and provides some weather protection.
CHAdeMO charging at 2C. Maybe one for the 2018 range when I hope the new Farris cells will be certified for 2C.
How's about a wind turbine that we can setup in our gardens and charge our bikes with? Perhaps with an integrated 1kWh battery that would buffer energy to ensure a consistent supply to the bike. Perhaps that's better for a third party...
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...CHAdeMO charging at 2C. Maybe one for the 2018 range when I hope the new Farris cells will be certified for 2C.
Not to pick on a spelling mistake, but I would like to point out:
http://farrisbattery.com/ (http://farrisbattery.com/) Sells guns - "Batteries"
http://www.farasis.com/ (http://www.farasis.com/) Designs energy storage technology. - "Batteries"
The more you know...
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...CHAdeMO charging at 2C. Maybe one for the 2018 range when I hope the new Farris cells will be certified for 2C.
Not to pick on a spelling mistake, but I would like to point out:
http://farrisbattery.com/ (http://farrisbattery.com/) Sells guns - "Batteries"
http://www.farasis.com/ (http://www.farasis.com/) Designs energy storage technology. - "Batteries"
The more you know...
Oops, I hate guns too. Other than they're fun to play with... It must have been late, because I do know the correct spelling. Thanks for making the correction Shadow.
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But getting back on topic... yes, a nice, full coverage fairing like the one on the R100RS is what I'd like to see on a Zero.
I'm hoping (and vaguely expecting based on hints) what we'll see is a nice generic superstructure bracket to support a fairing, and let customers decide what style they want to put over it. A Zero-fitted bracket is most of the work, and separating the upgrade capability from a particular vendor's style is probably very important for making a marketable/profitable product in this small owner group.
I've seen some of those "Dustbin" fairing designs and they're just a lilttle to weird-looking for me, even if they are more aerodynamic.
As one of the dustbin owners, I will admit I wanted my project to look better than it does, and that originally I really wanted a sport-touring style full fairing but cranked out the math for drag and travel and figured out that I'd better do the R&D for dustbin commoditization for everyone's sake.
If I get the chance to do it over again, I have a very clear idea of how to improve the look. I just have to make sure I don't throw too much money into one bike per year...
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I like your motorcycle cover, Justin.
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Left hand rear brake.
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I'll second that, would be awesome.
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