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Motoproponent

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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #195 on: April 28, 2025, 10:19:39 PM »

lets just say some mods were made ....

aaron

Ok I get it. you don't want to tell me what mods you made.

you are still missing the point ....

aaron

I asked what you did to your bike.

You said "trick" I asked what the trick was. You said "mod" (twice) I asked what the mod was (twice). You never said what it was.

I understand how incredulous Lightning's claim is about range at top speed is, because I also have an electric motorcycle. I get your point.

My apologies if my interest in your performance unlock overshadowed my expression of understanding of the effect speed has on electric motorcycle range.

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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #196 on: April 29, 2025, 12:30:15 AM »

i put a corsa like kit on it, that's hardware and software, but the corsa is not street legal so the wiring harness had to be modified to control / bring 12 volts to the running lights, brake lights. rtc  There are turn signals too... this stuff is not directly supported in the race software so had to fiddle to get things to fit and to work.  i also put a kill switch on it to turn all this stuff off so i can run it at the track too w/o having to remove half the shit / tape it up so it don't shine... just flip a switch.   Energica did some of it.... this was all planned and in progress before the bankruptcy announcement . they already had my bike to fix the previous damage to it. i did the rest.   you know where the 12 volt out is on your bike, use it but make sure you don't exceed it's 10 amp capacity... lights can pull some amps now.  for the blinky blinks i built an isolation kit to run a fhasher module and a supercap to store a charge to run them off.  i have a limiting charge circuit on it so it'll throw 5 amp into the cap continuous to charge it, but if needed, can pull 15 off it to run all the blinkers / lights etc.  this way i can keep a power reserve to keep the flashers running if im stuck for 15 minutes at a shitty intersextion but not have to worry about overloading the 10 amp power supply.  i believe in the off / part of the blink cycle, since the charge is flowing in continuously, it easily replenishes what is used from the cap during the.. lets just call it 'on half' of the cycle.  there is no part number for this circuit,  i built it myself out of my elex parts box.   the corsa kit, energica doesn't have the parts anymore, so we had to emprovise on some stuff, hence the corsa 'like' kit.  Can you get one?  NO!!  why??  because parts are no more, that's why I couldn't get one, and had to 'tweak' it.

so that is how my bike is tricked out to make the shit work properly.

there is no magic code or secret wire or something you can clip to make your bike faster.  there is no 'trick' to make it think it can go faster, which YES that is what you were really after.  the only 'tricking' i had to do was not pull excessive amps and make the vcu? think there was a fault and throw an alarm and/or do some stupid stuff and shut stuff down.   i know on an unmodded ribelle, a hi current fault will disable your lights, and since the bike is not 'overseeing' all the loads now, i didn't want to risk something like a total shut down of 12 volts, which might take out an abs pump or something too.

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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #197 on: May 02, 2025, 10:39:21 AM »

They claim the thing will travel 100 miles at full speed at one charge ?
what's the max speed of this thing 75 mph?
so 200 hp and only reach 75?

But i guess you  can't get sued for false advertisement if you never put a bike out to underperform your claims with.

Aaron

  In my Lightning Strike R testing, I found the max speed to be about 110mph.
The dyno tests showed about 113HP.  It was about as fast as a slow 600cc 4-stroke bike.
From 85% charged to 3% charge in about 30 miles under heavy load.
I had to stop at the end of the driveway to let the bike sit for a few min before I could get it up the driveway for parking.
And the smell!  It smelled like a burning clutch, and we feared it would catch on fire.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #198 on: May 02, 2025, 10:17:45 PM »

Welcome back to the forum. We feared the worst.

That is.... that your NDA was expanded in scope to cover all communication with the outside world.  ;D

No seriously, It's bee a year (almost) since your last post.

Do you still have the Strike?
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #199 on: May 06, 2025, 10:31:26 PM »

Welcome back to the forum. We feared the worst.
Do you still have the Strike?

  Not really. The bike was picked up by LM again due to a power failure on the freeway and refusal to charge at multiple charging stations.

  Since then, LM has decided to make major upgrades to my bike without my request, and now they want $39K to get my bike back.
 A bit expensive for some simple warranty work.  But it's LM..
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #200 on: May 07, 2025, 01:52:19 AM »

did you sign anyting giving them permission to do the work?  There are laws against that kind of predatory tactics.   I smell a potential lawsuit, but you can't get wine from a turd, so there is that.

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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #201 on: May 07, 2025, 04:37:36 AM »

F@ck!n A man, that sucks hard!

Dunno if you want to lawyer up and fight it or just cut your losses. Can you at least push back with lemon laws or something? Report the fraud to BBB maybe?

I'm not joking but maybe call your local news station. "7 on your side" or something like that?
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #202 on: May 07, 2025, 06:16:48 AM »

talk to a lawyer,  call the news station, they love stories like that, you might even find a lawyer happy to do it pro bono, just to get their name out there.

after everything you paid for it, and it never did run right, that's lemon law right there.
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Re: I ordered a Lightning.
« Reply #203 on: May 08, 2025, 10:31:50 PM »

If they are under the BAR’s authority as a shop, you can file a complaint there, and BAR complaints actually do have teeth. Not sure if small manufacturers who repair their own vehicles are considered shops or not, though.
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